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Let me draw you a diagram ... (Original Post) Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 OP
Great diagram! nt LiberalEsto Nov 2013 #1
Ooohh... good one. AmBlue Nov 2013 #2
hang on ... Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #3
LOL... thanks! n/t AmBlue Nov 2013 #10
DURec leftstreet Nov 2013 #4
The number of people being bought off is WAY too small. HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #5
Well maybe not. zeemike Nov 2013 #7
Well call me a thief if you want. zeemike Nov 2013 #6
your jib, I like the cut of it ... Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #8
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #9
This is why I can't ever forgive the sellout of Michael Crichton... Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #11
I always wondered about Crichton. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #20
Crichton is one of the few Edim Nov 2013 #21
He certainly did on the climate change issue Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #22
People will remember him for not selling out Edim Nov 2013 #23
How do you figure? Please explain... Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #24
He didn't jump Edim Nov 2013 #25
Maybe you ought to do a little research for yourself and get back to us... Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #27
I think he is saying Crichton never went with the global warming theisis... Eleanors38 Nov 2013 #29
When a supposed man of science refuses to face facts, it's a sellout Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #30
Excellent malaise Nov 2013 #12
No! Them climate scientists do this for filthy lucre! Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #13
Yes! Al Gore has made brazillions! Enthusiast Nov 2013 #19
Occam's razor? That tired old canard.... Wounded Bear Nov 2013 #14
This is one of my 'favorites' ck4829 Nov 2013 #15
98% of the global scientific community, dammit! MisterP Nov 2013 #16
Excellent! liberalla Nov 2013 #17
Thank you. Very well done. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #18
Great graphic. Sad that it's true and that many wingers won't admit it. KittyWampus Nov 2013 #26
heh, good one Kali Nov 2013 #28
K & R Quantess Nov 2013 #31

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
3. hang on ...
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 01:29 PM
Nov 2013

I got it off FB ... lol ... maybe just copy and paste this one and let FB do it's magic from there

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
5. The number of people being bought off is WAY too small.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 01:33 PM
Nov 2013

The number of state and federal legislators in the US would be at parity if not exceeding the number of international scientists actually doing research on climate change.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
7. Well maybe not.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 01:44 PM
Nov 2013

Because you don't have to buy them all...just enough to give you the vote...and many of them are already in the back pocket of the industry because they owe their election to them in the first place.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
11. This is why I can't ever forgive the sellout of Michael Crichton...
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 03:17 PM
Nov 2013

He banked his credibility and did SO much shameless whoring to get the "hoax" meme going full-throttle that we're still dealing with it today...

It was especially hurtful during the first Bush term when there was so much proud, willful ignorance and bible-thumping anti-science sentiment coming out of the closet...To see a man of science and renown author publicly pimping denier conspiracy theories was a dream come true for them...

I don't know if Crichton was having financial problems at the time, or just wanted one more big payday for his family while he was still living...All I'll say is I hope whatever price tag he put on his soul was worth it...

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
22. He certainly did on the climate change issue
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 12:20 PM
Nov 2013

and sadly that is what a lot of people will remember him for...

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
24. How do you figure? Please explain...
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 10:42 AM
Nov 2013

Was there some posthumous repentance that I may have missed?

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
29. I think he is saying Crichton never went with the global warming theisis...
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 11:34 AM
Nov 2013

to begin with, so he had nothing to "sell," nor to change from.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
30. When a supposed man of science refuses to face facts, it's a sellout
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 11:57 AM
Nov 2013

When a supposed man of science cashes six-figure checks from industry lobbyists for opinions and speeches that fly in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence, it's a sellout

When a supposed man of science politicizes a scientific issue while at the same time brazenly accusing the other side of doing the same thing (extra credit for regularly comparing climate scientists to Nazi eugenicists), it's a sellout

It doesn't matter if Crichton honestly thought climate change was unproven/fake/fraudulent in, say 1980 or even 1990...But by 2000 his views were just a notch below flat-Earthism...Of course I contend he never *really* believed in the Big Oil interpretation of "science", he just continued to go along with it because it was very lucrative to do so -- Which makes him a, you know, something-something or other....

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
13. No! Them climate scientists do this for filthy lucre!
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 03:20 PM
Nov 2013

They know there's good mone publishing reports in support of human caused global warming. That is their motive. Money.

The oil giants just want to make sure all sides are heard!

ck4829

(35,020 posts)
15. This is one of my 'favorites'
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 03:26 PM
Nov 2013

The massive secret cabal of environmentalists with armies and unlimited funds suppressing poor mom-and-pop ExxonMobil and it's cohorts.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
16. 98% of the global scientific community, dammit!
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 03:57 PM
Nov 2013

and, yes, they think that Red-Greens control
* the banks
* the media
* the churches
* the politicians
* the schools
* the scientists

they're just Birchers

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
18. Thank you. Very well done.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 08:43 AM
Nov 2013

And exactly the way I have always understood the climate change deniers.

Care if I send it to my pal?

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