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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,881 posts)
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 01:49 PM Nov 2013

Rafael Cruz: Atheism leads to child molestation and perversity

Hmmm. I think many altar boys and victims of youth pastors may beg to differ. I should add that I was an altar boy and was never molested FWIW.

In an appearance before a gathering of OK2A, an Oklahoma Second Amendment advocacy group, Rafael Cruz, father of freshman Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) said that atheism leads to sexual abuse of children.

In his talk, which took place earlier this month, the elder Cruz railed against atheism and secular humanism, which he said are two of the main ills facing our society.

“Let’s look, for example, at the behavioral consequences of these two foundations,” Cruz said to the group. “Well, if there is nothing, if there is no God, then we are ruled by our instincts.”

“There is no moral absolute, which means we operate by situational ethics,” he said, “which unfortunately is something being taught in every high school in America.”


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/13/rafael-cruz-atheism-leads-to-child-molestation-and-perversity/

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Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
2. What does it say about these people that the only thing keeping them from killing or raping
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 01:51 PM
Nov 2013

is their belief that an invisible deity hovers over the Earth, watching their every move? (It's somewhat unclear why an omnipotent god would even allow such behavior, but I digress...)

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. My thoughts exactly.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 01:56 PM
Nov 2013

Nice to know whose instincts are so very base, I suppose.
Atheists don't need a bunch of commandments to tell them what is wrong.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,881 posts)
6. True
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 01:56 PM
Nov 2013

I mean do you do what's right because you believe it benefits humanity or because you believe you'll be cast into the pit of hell if you don't?

nyquil_man

(1,443 posts)
13. It makes you wonder what Rafael Cruz was like
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 02:06 PM
Nov 2013

before he was saved...

I've heard some pretty crazy conversion stories. People were doing all sorts of insane and destructive shit before they 'saw the light.'

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
14. seriously.. we would all be killing and raping if we followed our instincts... not
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 03:07 PM
Nov 2013

though perhaps these loudmouths would.

God, as it were, or Dog, the Great Spirit, whatever its name,
communicates to me through my own instinct and feeling. Not
books or preachers.

People need to understand that a Great Dog would put
a lot of importance on innate instinct.

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
7. Is he trying to say that he would ...
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 01:56 PM
Nov 2013

... molest children if he were not afraid of going to hell? I guess he not only has an unusual sexual attraction, but also a lack of any empathy. It's probably just as well (for society) that he subscribes to a dogma that works to prevent him from harming others, but not everybody needs that.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
8. He is a fucking idiot
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 02:00 PM
Nov 2013

he's a scam artist, making money telling lies in the name of religion.

His arguments are so lacking in any intellectual depth, you have to figure Teddy must have picked up on some of this stupidity.

nyquil_man

(1,443 posts)
9. I'm sure he's got something besides his prejudices to confirm this,
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 02:00 PM
Nov 2013

such as statistics about the number of atheists convicted of crimes. Right?

Right?!?

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
11. This asshole is indirectly admitting that child molestation is his "instinct..."
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 02:06 PM
Nov 2013

...that's only kept in check by his deference to God. And then he goes on to assume that this is everyone's instinct, which only gets acted on when a person doesn't have a Daddy In The Sky to keep them in line.

Get help, Rafael.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
12. Look in the mirror you stupid fuck, you are a poster child for a pedophile
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 02:06 PM
Nov 2013


In fact, I heard that in the 80's you had to pay off a couple families-

Got some more details on that cruzzy boy?

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