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By Charles P. Pierce
So Bill Clinton, pretty plainly already in campaign mode, sounds the alarm in favor of the Shoddy Health Insurance Plan Protection Act of 2013, and some Democratic politicians saddle up? Forgive me if I say that I have seen this movie before.
The unspoken -- but fundamental -- basis for Clinton's triangulation on most issues during his time in office was somehow to enact something resembling progressive social policies while still staying in the good graces of the financial services industry and the Masters Of The Universe therein. This was a plausible strategy in the longterm only if a) you had a never-ending tech boom and an eternal housing bubble in your pocket, and b) there were still some Republicans invested in the notion that the United States should have a functioning national government. Neither of those elements exist today. The MOTU proved to be essentially destructive to the world economy, throwing us into a recession from which most of us have not yet crawled. And the Republicans have gone insane, giving themselves over entirely to a campaign of vandalism that is unprecedented in the history of the country. In short, this is no longer time to be listening to Bill Clinton on everything. His politics were formed in a different time under different circumstances.
If the Democratic party, through its elected leaders, bails on the health-care law even so far as go out of its way to let people keep their lousy insurance plans that do not come up to the Affordable Care Act's specifications, that's pretty much the ballgame. There will be barbering and compromising until hell won't have it and, eventually, the only thing left will be the Medicaid expansion, and we all know the vast influence that poor and lower middle class people have over the political process. (And, as Steve M shrewdly notes, the Democrats will get blamed for the deleterious effects of any changes now anyway.) There is far less of a downside right now to being stubborn, regardless of what the courtier press is telling nervous Democrats. Otherwise, the tracks already are cleared and you can hear the the train a-comin'.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/bill-clinton-obamacare-rewrite-111313
How The GOP's 'Keep Your Health Plan' Bill Disrupts Obamacare
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024025850
Bill Clinton Is Wrong. This Is How Obamacare Works.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024026395
moondust
(19,972 posts)One guess.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)This time, however, I agree with him completely.
-Laelth
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI), who introduced the House bill expected to come up for vote Friday which would allow people to keep their existing health plans, said Wednesday that a similar bill introduced by Senate Democrats might actually be better than his.
As TPM has reported, the Upton bill would amend the Affordable Care Act to allow insurers to continue offering their existing individual health insurance plans through 2014. The Senate bill, introduced by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA), would require them to -- and allow people to stay on those non-ACA-compliant plans indefinitely.
Lets challenge them to pass (Landrieus bill) in the Senate, and if so, I think thats even a bigger and perhaps better step than what we have in the House, Upton told the Washington Examiner. Lets see if she can pass that.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/landrieu-upton-obamacare-health-insurance
Laelth
(32,017 posts)As I argued elsewhere, we need Harry Truman.
No apologizing for the ACA!
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman
-Laelth
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)who are distressed that they have to give up their junk plans are much more vocal so far than those who are benefitting from the ACA, it seems fairly clear to me even now that those who benefit are vastly more than the others.
My state, New Mexico, is one that is expanding its Medicaid and has set up an exchange. I read in today's paper that only about a quarter of those eligible for the expanded Medicaid have signed up so far. I'm not terribly surprised, since I strongly suspect that those people are going to be highly unlikely to read newspapers to find out about it, nor do many of them have computers at home to sign up. I can only hope that as these people show up in the emergency rooms, they'll be correctly advised that they can now have Medicaid coverage and are signed up.
mtasselin
(666 posts)Thank you Charlie, know one says it better than you. How democrats can go from a winning hand to a point where they look like they are going to fold is mind boggling, but we will hope for the best and know Charlie is on our side.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Among other things.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)... big dawg head into this. You could see it in his face too, that he shouldn't have been saying it. Did anyone else notice the stupid or unfamiliar look on Clinton's face when he said it? I knew exactly what he was doing. Already in election mode. I bet you a dollar he did not run that by PO before saying it. Bill, you did a bad, bad thing. Shame on you. And if Hillary was in on it, then shame on her too! "Third-way, Grand Bargain, Corporatist Democrats!" Shame, Shame, Shame! You done showed your true colors.
Where's the backbone, Democrats? What happened? If any of this ACA is changed now, it's just going to be chip, chip, chipped away. And before we know it, the ACA will not resemble what it did to begin with. If you think it's bad because it's not universal health care, you ain't seen nothin' yet. By the time the wingers get thru with it, we'll be forking over the money to em' scott-free, with nothing in return!
Buck up, Democrats! Grab that bottle of Geritol and bottoms up. Whatever... drink something stiff enough to clean the cob webs out of your head. THINK!
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
rurallib
(62,406 posts)I am getting hoarse from screaming at the radio - good old NPR - good lord.
BTW, WJC - this will not help the wife out.
bearssoapbox
(1,408 posts)Don't give in. It'll pay off in the long run.
And screw us over if you cave.
Why do some Democrats seem to be ready to stab another Democrat in the back if enough rethugs dislike what the Democrat is doing, proposing or speaking-in-favor-of?
An announcement that would be interesting to see the results of.