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Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 10:34 PM Nov 2013

"Canada took 60 years"

that's the meme as to why we won't be able to see the greatness of ACA for any number of decades, and that it will eventually evolve into SP. One Fan Club member posted yesterday that ACA is actually a amjor step toward SP, but will take "a couple generations" to be implemented. This sounded like BS to me, so I looked up a couple other numbers

Medicare & Medicaid - Proposed 1965. Signed into law 1965. Implemented 1966.

British NHS - Proposed 1945. Implemented 1948.

We don't have Heritage Care because it's a first step toward what we actually deserve. We have it because that's what the 1% wants us to have - highest prices, worst service, more funneling of our money to the hyper-rich

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roamer65

(36,745 posts)
3. I think we'll have single payor in about ten years.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 12:01 AM
Nov 2013

By 2024, it will be reality.

That would be near the end of the second term of the next Democratic president.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
8. Far more likely than SP, IMO
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 10:36 AM
Nov 2013

The last Congress guaranteed Big Insurance 20% of a 3 trillion dollar pie. I am pretty sure they're now figuring out a way to get the Medicare money. Before 2220, I am guessing the 1% will have that, all of the education money, and possibly SS.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
6. It will have a great deal to do with which party occupies the Bully Pulpit Office. I do recall a
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 01:18 AM
Nov 2013

valient attempt called HillaryCare. 20 years ago. Just sayin'

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
10. I doubt it
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 10:37 AM
Nov 2013

Most of the "electable" Dems right now are just as corporate as the Repukes (not the teabaggers - the Boners of the world).

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
12. Not disagreeing in general..comment was about health care progress. It's not like Cruz or Rubio have
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 11:57 AM
Nov 2013

any former enlightened legislation 20 years ago..currently relevant or not. Credit where credit is due.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
11. Don't give up.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 10:46 AM
Nov 2013


Within two days of his election in 1944, Premier t.c. Douglas, with the support of his medical advisor, Dr. Hugh Maclean, asked Dr. Henry Sigerist, professor of medical history at Johns Hopkins University, to prepare a report on health care in Saskatchewan. Sigerist’s report, produced after only three weeks of hearings and study, provided the “blueprint” for medical care in Saskatchewan for the next half century. Sigerist’s recommendations included district health regions for preventive medicine, rural health centres of eight to ten maternity beds, universal hospitalization (at a projected cost of $3.60 per person per annum), and the establishment of a medical college at the University of Saskatchewan. Douglas followed MacLean’s advice to assume the health portfolio, so that he as Premier could personally direct the development of health plans.

http://esask.uregina.ca/entry/health_care.html



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