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marmar

(77,067 posts)
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 10:00 AM Nov 2013

Rip-off: High Out-of-Pocket Social Costs are a Stealth Tax on the Middle Class and the Poor


Rip-off: High Out-of-Pocket Social Costs are a Stealth Tax on the Middle Class and the Poor

November 13, 2013
by Joshua Holland


Americans’ heavy reliance on the private sector to provide social goods and services doesn’t only result in us paying a lot and getting a lot less for it, compared to other wealthy countries. It also makes the financing of our entire social welfare system far less fair. It’s a great deal for the wealthiest, and a huge rip-off for the rest of us.

To understand how, we’ll need some background.

A Nasty Little Myth

The most pernicious myth in American politics holds that only around half the population pays taxes. Sean Hannity put it like this: “If half of Americans pay taxes, and the other half are the beneficiaries of the tax that the other half pay, at some point you say, OK, you got a full voting bloc.” In a call to raise taxes on the poor, Sen. Dan Coates (R-IN) said, “I think it’s important that this burden not just fall on 50 percent of the people but falls on all of us in some form.” He added, “Everyone needs to have some skin in the game.”

The narrative is the epitome of cherry-picking. While 43 percent of households won’t need to pay federal income taxes this year, that’s nothing more than a bit of tax trivia. Federal income taxes make up around 40 percent of federal revenues and a quarter of all taxes paid in this country, while payroll taxes – which virtually all working people pay – also make up around 40 percent of federal revenues (in 2011 and 2012, revenue from the payroll tax represented a smaller share due to the temporary tax reduction in effect during those years).



And the irony is that many households pay no income taxes as a result of a policy that conservative politicians have long favored. As David Cay Johnston, author of Perfectly Legal: The Covert Campaign to Rig Our Tax System to Benefit the Super Rich–and Cheat Everybody Else, told Moyers & Company in October, the situation is primarily due to the child tax credit Republicans put in place in the ’90s. “A married couple with two children does not pay any federal income taxes until they make at least $44,000 a year,” said Johnston. “And with a little bit of tax planning, you could make $70,000 and pay no federal income tax. So the Republicans create this situation where middle-income families with children pay no income tax and then they complain about it.” .......................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://billmoyers.com/2013/11/13/rip-off-high-out-of-pocket-social-costs-are-a-stealth-tax-on-the-middle-class-and-the-poor/



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Rip-off: High Out-of-Pocket Social Costs are a Stealth Tax on the Middle Class and the Poor (Original Post) marmar Nov 2013 OP
KNR. DirkGently Nov 2013 #1
k&r thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #2
The system is rigged? Who knew? Bill Moyers, that's who! K&R mountain grammy Nov 2013 #3
Bill Moyers is a national treasure. Sheri Nov 2013 #6
Thanks, I miss her too, every day! mountain grammy Nov 2013 #11
i lived in fort worth when she was a columinst for the startlegram. Sheri Nov 2013 #13
haven't heard "startlegram" in years. nt awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #15
it's still called that, afaik. Sheri Nov 2013 #17
Most people that I work with... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #19
perhaps Joshua Holland too hfojvt Nov 2013 #9
For sure! mountain grammy Nov 2013 #12
If we made corporations and religious institutions pay taxes.... AlbertCat Nov 2013 #4
du rec. xchrom Nov 2013 #5
K & R L0oniX Nov 2013 #7
Don't Overlook Deregulation As A Social Cost DallasNE Nov 2013 #8
I think they go off track there hfojvt Nov 2013 #10
nice to see this clarification. thanks. nt Sheri Nov 2013 #14
HUGE KICK to End the Regressive tax system in this country! adirondacker Nov 2013 #16
K&R&I'm glad whenever this system is exposed. Thank you marmar. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #18

Sheri

(310 posts)
13. i lived in fort worth when she was a columinst for the startlegram.
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 02:45 PM
Nov 2013

she made the paper worth reading. absolutely brilliant!

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
19. Most people that I work with...
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 09:24 PM
Nov 2013

don't read the paper (they get all their "news" from Fox) so no one ever says it.

on edit: I agree about Molly- I miss her.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
4. If we made corporations and religious institutions pay taxes....
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 10:56 AM
Nov 2013

..... we could all probably get a "personal" tax break.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
8. Don't Overlook Deregulation As A Social Cost
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 12:51 PM
Nov 2013

Organizations such as OSHA have been weakened and that has resulted in reduced use of safety devises in the workplace and when lumped with the defunding of workmen's compensation we're seeing an uptick in workplace injuries married with no injury related benefits available to those injured workers.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
10. I think they go off track there
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 01:35 PM
Nov 2013

using a tax foundation graph and tax policy center numbers.

I don't trust either of those two groups.

They say that the 2008 Federal income taxes are the most progressive in the world.

That's DURING the era of the Bush tax cuts.

By my numbers, income taxes are not nearly as progressive as they were in 1986. http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt

Further, using an average for all 50 states, really hides how regressive taxes are in some states, like Texas, for example. And so does lumping the top 1% with the rest of the top 20%. Compare this chart to the one in the article http://www.itep.org/pdf/tx.pdf

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
18. K&R&I'm glad whenever this system is exposed. Thank you marmar.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:50 PM
Nov 2013

We've been warning people about this for decades, but even it's most over-burdened victims seem incapable of understanding just how badly they're being screwed. They know someone is screwing them and they're very angry about it, but making that final step into understanding who is behind that uncomfortable dick up their ass continues to elude most of them.

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