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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 06:31 PM Nov 2013

I think Hillary would make a great VP

She's a ferocious attack dog, which is what we need in a #2 on the ticket. Although President Warren would need a food taster if it happened, it'd be worth it.

An all-female ticket would be great, too.

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I think Hillary would make a great VP (Original Post) MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 OP
Oh boy, tighten your seat belts, we're in for a bumpy ride...LOL..n/t monmouth3 Nov 2013 #1
Bette Davis. "All About Eve" nt longship Nov 2013 #7
Though it would be more like "Whatever happened to baby Jane" Paulie Nov 2013 #8
Nope! All About Eve. Marilyn Monroe is also in the scene as Miss Caswell. longship Nov 2013 #11
No, I'm saying Hillary and Elizabeth would be my Betty Davis movie Paulie Nov 2013 #13
Oh the similarity in apperance... L0oniX Nov 2013 #58
You must be joking. Beacool Nov 2013 #2
I don't know, Manny, that's a lot of responsibility. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #3
Everyone is a comedian................ Beacool Nov 2013 #5
Nice trolling Courtesy Flush Nov 2013 #4
LOL! Whisp Nov 2013 #65
A great Veep for Martin O'Malley. nt madinmaryland Nov 2013 #6
One thing I can absolutely guarantee is that it will not be an all-female ticket. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #9
Frackenlooper? truebluegreen Nov 2013 #10
You can say that again. Laffy Kat Nov 2013 #16
+ a zillion truebluegreen Nov 2013 #23
My Governor, John I fucking love fracking so much I drink the fluid Hickenlooper?? Autumn Nov 2013 #14
Yeah, they only do that crazy-ass shite in Texas. Eleanors38 Nov 2013 #57
I don't believe that Hillary would accept the role of VP. (n/t) spin Nov 2013 #12
she sure wanted it DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #27
But what she was hoping for at that time was to run for President in 2016. ... spin Nov 2013 #64
I don't want Hillary anywhere near the WH. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #15
+1000 dflprincess Nov 2013 #21
+100000 woo me with science Nov 2013 #49
I think Hillary would be a great president and should play second to no one. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #17
Righ, with Jamie Dimon in the number two spot! Scuba Nov 2013 #51
LOL. Bullseye. Chan790 Nov 2013 #61
I hope not. He should be in jail. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #75
LOL wilsonbooks Nov 2013 #18
Must be a dark and stormy night. libdem4life Nov 2013 #19
Alerted... brooklynite Nov 2013 #20
Let them. Beacool Nov 2013 #28
Reality is meaningless to many. BainsBane Nov 2013 #39
You've missed the problem... Chan790 Nov 2013 #67
Well, they'll be a much larger group of the Democratic party who will fight back, Beacool Nov 2013 #69
They got the candidate they wanted in 2008 and now they're basically calling him a DINO, so why Metric System Nov 2013 #78
Yes, now some are disappointed. Beacool Nov 2013 #80
... woo me with science Nov 2013 #73
How many times has Hillary said she's not running? n/t ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #74
If I had a buck for each time I had a post alerted on... MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #31
what were the results ? JI7 Nov 2013 #32
4-2 to keep it brooklynite Nov 2013 #34
Ha! Cheated the hangman again! MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #36
Went to the one in Austin... Eleanors38 Nov 2013 #62
What'd you think of them? MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #66
Musician-wise, they were fairly good technically... Eleanors38 Nov 2013 #70
Here's the original - LiberalElite Nov 2013 #82
I'm going to miss you Manny when Hillary is President. :( joshcryer Nov 2013 #86
Wow, ridiculous alert of the month quinnox Nov 2013 #43
For once I agree with you davidpdx Nov 2013 #45
Indeed. Then I looked down and saw post #33, and just had to facepalm quinnox Nov 2013 #46
I doubt her ego would allow it, and I don't mean that in a negative way. n/t winter is coming Nov 2013 #22
I think you would make a great VP candidate arely staircase Nov 2013 #24
Non, non, no....... daleanime Nov 2013 #41
I think Hillary would prefer to be the #2 under Sachs. Wilms Nov 2013 #25
What a back-handed compliment. nt Deep13 Nov 2013 #26
really?? Veep to someone less qualified?? demigoddess Nov 2013 #29
I prefer to think of it as simply someone not Hillary. Chan790 Nov 2013 #68
That's exactly what my Republican neighbors fadedrose Nov 2013 #30
you think Clintons would try to kill Elizabeth Warren ? JI7 Nov 2013 #33
No. MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #35
Please, they have people to do that. woo me with science Nov 2013 #50
DUzy MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #55
Yeah, as long as I don't have to attend that high school. PETRUS Nov 2013 #37
For real... Agschmid Nov 2013 #38
Manny, Manny, Manny... Whisp Nov 2013 #40
"An all-female ticket would be great, too." NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #42
The most dangerous job in the world? Fumesucker Nov 2013 #44
Howard Dean supports Hillary for President ProSense Nov 2013 #47
When Howard was Chairman, he went on TV and insisted to the world that the Democratic Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #53
I for one would prefer if Hillary just retired from seeking elected office Morphia Nov 2013 #48
I'm not wild about Hillary either. Don't get me wrong, I'll B Calm Nov 2013 #52
If we want to get rid of DINOs, demigoddess Nov 2013 #79
I couldn't agree more with you! B Calm Nov 2013 #81
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #54
Even as a joke, that inference is disgusting!!!! Beacool Nov 2013 #71
Glad that LiberalElite Nov 2013 #83
I don't get what the hell is going on over here. Beacool Nov 2013 #87
Agreed and LiberalElite Nov 2013 #88
I wasn't even around and I still find it a lot more than insensitive. Beacool Nov 2013 #89
I think she makes a great retiree n/t cali Nov 2013 #56
Message removed by jury decision. L0oniX Nov 2013 #59
Manny, we're in the middle of an election campaign right now. jsr Nov 2013 #60
LOL. Love these "Third Way" Manny posts. Romulox Nov 2013 #63
If Manny is comfortable with Hillary being a heartbeat away from the presidency, Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #72
If you feel better about it, I feel much worse. Romulox Nov 2013 #90
People made the same ugly food-taster comments MineralMan Nov 2013 #76
Even a VP candidate she might exceed my nose-holding abilities. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #77
I pretty much like all Democrats. Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #84
I don't want her anywhere near the White House ever again (nt) bigwillq Nov 2013 #85

longship

(40,416 posts)
11. Nope! All About Eve. Marilyn Monroe is also in the scene as Miss Caswell.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 07:08 PM
Nov 2013

Classic Hollywood movie about famous actors pretending to be famous actors.

Great script, but it's merely a movie about actors pretending to be actors.

LuvNewcastle

(16,835 posts)
3. I don't know, Manny, that's a lot of responsibility.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 06:48 PM
Nov 2013

I think we ought to let Joe Biden stay in there as VP. He's done pretty well. Maybe Hillary could be Press Secretary or something.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
9. One thing I can absolutely guarantee is that it will not be an all-female ticket.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 07:01 PM
Nov 2013

Hillary's running-mate will be a man. John Hickenlooper is one name that has been mentioned, for example.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/19/john-hickenlooper-hillary_n_3625052.html

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
10. Frackenlooper?
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 07:05 PM
Nov 2013

Last edited Sat Nov 16, 2013, 10:57 PM - Edit history (2)

Meh. O'Malley, Sherrod Brown, any number of people but please not another DINO.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
23. + a zillion
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 10:53 PM
Nov 2013

from a native but former resident (i.e. Restless Native). I get cross-eyed with anger when I visit...

Autumn

(44,984 posts)
14. My Governor, John I fucking love fracking so much I drink the fluid Hickenlooper??
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:22 PM
Nov 2013

Fuck that. PASS

spin

(17,493 posts)
64. But what she was hoping for at that time was to run for President in 2016. ...
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:08 PM
Nov 2013

Being the Vice President would have been a great launching pad.

Hillary was born in 1947. If she ran for VP in 2016 she would be 69. Assume her running mate gets elected and serves two terms. If she ran for President then, she would be 78. If she won twice she would be 86 at the end of her two terms. Many people would feel that she was too old for the job and decide to go with a younger candidate.

John McCain was 72 when he ran for President in 2008. A number of people I know were hesitant to vote for him as they feared the stress of the job might kill him and Sara Palin would assume the office.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
61. LOL. Bullseye.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:35 PM
Nov 2013

That's what a Clinton presidency would be about: The continued selling-out of the American middle class to the banking class by Democratic Presidents started by her husband.

brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
20. Alerted...
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 10:30 PM
Nov 2013

for insinuating, even in jest that Clinton or her supporters would try to kill Elizabeth Warren.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
28. Let them.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:00 AM
Nov 2013

It'll be even sweeter when Warren says for the umpteenth time that she's not running. They are childish and offensive, that's all they got.

BainsBane

(53,016 posts)
39. Reality is meaningless to many.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 02:39 AM
Nov 2013

They love to waste time on idle speculation. They know it's bad for the party because this endless, mindless focus on 2016 plays into the Republicans hands by taking our attention away from the 2014 election, but they don't care.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
67. You've missed the problem...
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:29 PM
Nov 2013

there is a large and determined block of the left, and not just on DU, that has made it clear they will not countenance a Hillary nomination.

It doesn't matter who bears the standard for liberal Democratic positions in the 2016 Presidential primary if Libby Warren does not because someone will...and we will turn out for that person. We will campaign harder against Clinton in the primaries than we do against the GOP in the GE because we view her as the larger visceral threat to Democratic economic values than the eventual GOP nominee; she is the enemy within, a cancer of RW economic values that must be excised and irradiated to insure the survival of the Democratic Party.

There is no possibility of a non-bloodbath primary as long as Hillary runs. What is energizing the rising economic left is the possibility of strangling out Third Way economics in the Democratic party with a second denial of Hillary ever being President at the same time we're taking contesting the local offices and roots of the party. This is the left's Waterloo of a larger campaign for the future of the Democratic party: are we to be the party of corporatists and moderately-progressive social positions or are we to be the economic & socially liberal party? It's going to make 2008 look like a hands-holding Kumbaya campfire sing-along.

This isn't about Libby Warren...it's about Hillary Clinton.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
69. Well, they'll be a much larger group of the Democratic party who will fight back,
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:46 PM
Nov 2013

if Hillary does choose to run (which at this point we don't know). The Left can push their candidate, the rest of the party will push theirs and let the bloody candidate who is still standing at the end go and fight the Republican nominee in the g.e. Of course it will be a weakened candidate, but the Left wouldn't give a crap about that. This won't be like 2008 where people were so disgusted with Bush that Mickey Mouse would have won if he had been the Democratic nominee. It's going to be hard enough to keep the WH in 2016.

BTW, I give a lot more credit to Elizabeth Warren than some of you do. If it's clear that Hillary runs, I doubt that Liz would want a bloody confrontation with her. They like and respect each other. One thing is for Warren to go after Wall Street and another would be to use the same tone going after a fellow Democrat. I don't see her wanting to do that.

Now that the battlefield is clear, let the games begin.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
78. They got the candidate they wanted in 2008 and now they're basically calling him a DINO, so why
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 05:32 PM
Nov 2013

should we trust their judgement now? Apparently they're easily fooled.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
31. If I had a buck for each time I had a post alerted on...
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:47 AM
Nov 2013

We'd need my former neighbor, Carl Sagan, to meaningfully explain the magnitude of my wealth within the context of our universe.

brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
34. 4-2 to keep it
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:23 AM
Nov 2013
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: Enough. I'm not supporting Hillary in the primaries but some people clearly want this to be Green Party Occupy Ralph Nader Roolez underground. Hillary is a Democrat. Deal with it.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Seriously?
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: Yea, Manny is stepping over the line - yet again.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: It's a joke. Geez.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Lighten up, people.


Perhaps someone could explain how this joke is funny? Perhaps then we could all enjoy it.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
36. Ha! Cheated the hangman again!
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:33 AM
Nov 2013

But next time, my luck might not hold:



(I was likely at that concert... I was cool once...)
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
62. Went to the one in Austin...
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:38 PM
Nov 2013

Some guy named Stevie Ray Vaughan opened to tepid applause. The only concert (1980) where capacity of the torn-down Coliseum was reached (3,500), and the band was impromptu-scheduled the next night in the same venue. The day in between, the band did the "Rock the Casbah" music video locally. Great old times.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
66. What'd you think of them?
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:27 PM
Nov 2013

I saw them at Bond's in NYC, 1981. Twice. They did something like 10 nights there. Best concerts I ever saw.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
70. Musician-wise, they were fairly good technically...
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:47 PM
Nov 2013

What made them good was the authenticity, the grand sound of the times; they were a Part of humanity, not some shock rock. They seemed to prefer the sun to the moon, a smiling face to the endless skulls, what happened to someone rather than what they could do to someone.

I loved "White Riot."

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
43. Wow, ridiculous alert of the month
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:52 AM
Nov 2013



It really is good to have a sense of humor, even regarding the Queen and Absolute Ruler of the Universe, Hillary Clinton. Amen.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
45. For once I agree with you
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 05:13 AM
Nov 2013

If the person sat down and thought about it, logically what was said made sense. The number 2 person on the ticket is usually someone who can go after the opponents. The rest was just opinion. It's too bad it wasn't 6-0 to let it stand.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
46. Indeed. Then I looked down and saw post #33, and just had to facepalm
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 05:29 AM
Nov 2013


Yes, Manny was seriously speculating that Hillary would plan to kill Elizabeth if she was the Vice President under Warren.

Something in the water apparently regarding posts in this thread.
 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
25. I think Hillary would prefer to be the #2 under Sachs.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 10:56 PM
Nov 2013

I'll bet they pay waaaaay better than Senator Warren would deem appropriate.



 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
68. I prefer to think of it as simply someone not Hillary.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:41 PM
Nov 2013

I'm sure there's an equally qualified female we could run for President who has the added benefit of not being a center-right Democrat in the pocket of Wall Street, big banking and the oligarchy like the Clintons are. (I know there is at-least one, I also know why she's not running.)

They're just not as exciting as Libby Warren to talk about at this point.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
30. That's exactly what my Republican neighbors
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:23 AM
Nov 2013

said about Obama if he picked Hillary.

They were voting for Obama because their son had adopted a black child..but uh, uh, to the First Black President's wife (well, he used to be).

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
37. Yeah, as long as I don't have to attend that high school.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:39 AM
Nov 2013

But why demote Elizabeth Warren?

Oh wait... you didn't mean Vice Principal. Nevermind.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
44. The most dangerous job in the world?
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 05:11 AM
Nov 2013

Food taster for President Warren.

The woman is making some remarkably implacable enemies.

Ming the Merciless would look like Barney the Dinosaur next to some of them.

I'm reminded of that old saying, friends come and go but enemies accumulate.


 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
53. When Howard was Chairman, he went on TV and insisted to the world that the Democratic
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 10:13 AM
Nov 2013

platform had a plank opposing marriage equality. Of course he was lying. Or alternatively he was utterly uninformed about our own platform and about the voters in our Party.
I called his office, they called back all apology and muttered chagrin, but Howie failed to go back to that show to correct his spewed verbal bullshit.
Howard supports lots of things I don't support. His support is reason to be cautious.

 

Morphia

(49 posts)
48. I for one would prefer if Hillary just retired from seeking elected office
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 07:12 AM
Nov 2013

She was elected Senator and Appointed Sec of State she has done enough, it is time for her to step aside, it is time for some new blood in the party to lead the party in a new direction and I just don't see how a former Goldwater Girl will lead the party in a direction that will be good for the country.



 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
52. I'm not wild about Hillary either. Don't get me wrong, I'll
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 07:33 AM
Nov 2013

vote for her if that's my only choice. Between her and a no good republican, you have to go with Hillary. I'm sick of these DINO's presidents, and Hillary is a DINO.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
79. If we want to get rid of DINOs,
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 05:42 PM
Nov 2013

we have to start lower down and get rid of republicans in the lower offices. More democratic control means dems will be freer to be more left leaning in their policies.

Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
71. Even as a joke, that inference is disgusting!!!!
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:49 PM
Nov 2013

Particularly since next week will be the 50th anniversary of JFK's assassination.

WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH SOME OF YOU??????????????



Beacool

(30,247 posts)
87. I don't get what the hell is going on over here.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 09:28 PM
Nov 2013

I understand political differences and preferring certain politicians over others, but this nastiness and inference that the Clintons would kill people is just sickening. It's even worse when it's coming from a Democratic site. That's the kind of vile behavior that one sees on RW sites.



LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
88. Agreed and
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 09:49 PM
Nov 2013

The use of that photo in service of making a joke is insensitive at best - I was a teenager at the time of the JFK assassination.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
89. I wasn't even around and I still find it a lot more than insensitive.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 09:55 PM
Nov 2013

It was a terrible time for the country and to use that photo in an attempt to make some lame joke is offensive an divisive.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
63. LOL. Love these "Third Way" Manny posts.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:38 PM
Nov 2013

Oh, wait, you're serious? And you want to be the voice for the Left here on DU? Does not compute.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
72. If Manny is comfortable with Hillary being a heartbeat away from the presidency,
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:50 PM
Nov 2013

that makes me feel even better about supporting her for president.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
76. People made the same ugly food-taster comments
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:59 PM
Nov 2013

when Hillary Clinton was being considered as Obama's running mate. The people who said that were thinking ugly thoughts.

It's a bad association you bring to mind, Manny. A bad one, indeed. Please think longer before posting, OK?

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
77. Even a VP candidate she might exceed my nose-holding abilities.
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 05:02 PM
Nov 2013

Maybe if Warren, or another progressive, would promise her Vice-Consul to Andorra.....

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