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Sat Nov 16, 2013, 05:31 PM

 

I think Hillary would make a great VP

She's a ferocious attack dog, which is what we need in a #2 on the ticket. Although President Warren would need a food taster if it happened, it'd be worth it.

An all-female ticket would be great, too.

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Reply I think Hillary would make a great VP (Original post)
MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 OP
monmouth3 Nov 2013 #1
longship Nov 2013 #7
Paulie Nov 2013 #8
longship Nov 2013 #11
Paulie Nov 2013 #13
L0oniX Nov 2013 #58
Beacool Nov 2013 #2
LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #3
Beacool Nov 2013 #5
Courtesy Flush Nov 2013 #4
Whisp Nov 2013 #65
madinmaryland Nov 2013 #6
Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #9
truebluegreen Nov 2013 #10
Laffy Kat Nov 2013 #16
truebluegreen Nov 2013 #23
Autumn Nov 2013 #14
Eleanors38 Nov 2013 #57
spin Nov 2013 #12
DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #27
spin Nov 2013 #64
NuclearDem Nov 2013 #15
dflprincess Nov 2013 #21
woo me with science Nov 2013 #49
hrmjustin Nov 2013 #17
Scuba Nov 2013 #51
Chan790 Nov 2013 #61
hrmjustin Nov 2013 #75
wilsonbooks Nov 2013 #18
libdem4life Nov 2013 #19
brooklynite Nov 2013 #20
Beacool Nov 2013 #28
BainsBane Nov 2013 #39
Chan790 Nov 2013 #67
Beacool Nov 2013 #69
Metric System Nov 2013 #78
Beacool Nov 2013 #80
woo me with science Nov 2013 #73
ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #74
MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #31
JI7 Nov 2013 #32
brooklynite Nov 2013 #34
MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #36
Eleanors38 Nov 2013 #62
MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #66
Eleanors38 Nov 2013 #70
LiberalElite Nov 2013 #82
joshcryer Nov 2013 #86
quinnox Nov 2013 #43
davidpdx Nov 2013 #45
quinnox Nov 2013 #46
winter is coming Nov 2013 #22
arely staircase Nov 2013 #24
daleanime Nov 2013 #41
Wilms Nov 2013 #25
Deep13 Nov 2013 #26
demigoddess Nov 2013 #29
Chan790 Nov 2013 #68
fadedrose Nov 2013 #30
JI7 Nov 2013 #33
MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #35
woo me with science Nov 2013 #50
MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #55
PETRUS Nov 2013 #37
Agschmid Nov 2013 #38
Whisp Nov 2013 #40
NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #42
Fumesucker Nov 2013 #44
ProSense Nov 2013 #47
Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #53
Morphia Nov 2013 #48
B Calm Nov 2013 #52
demigoddess Nov 2013 #79
B Calm Nov 2013 #81
Post removed Nov 2013 #54
Beacool Nov 2013 #71
LiberalElite Nov 2013 #83
Beacool Nov 2013 #87
LiberalElite Nov 2013 #88
Beacool Nov 2013 #89
cali Nov 2013 #56
L0oniX Nov 2013 #59
jsr Nov 2013 #60
Romulox Nov 2013 #63
Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #72
Romulox Nov 2013 #90
MineralMan Nov 2013 #76
Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #77
Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #84
bigwillq Nov 2013 #85

Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 05:45 PM

1. Oh boy, tighten your seat belts, we're in for a bumpy ride...LOL..n/t

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Response to monmouth3 (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 05:56 PM

7. Bette Davis. "All About Eve" nt

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Response to longship (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 05:58 PM

8. Though it would be more like "Whatever happened to baby Jane"

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Response to Paulie (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 06:08 PM

11. Nope! All About Eve. Marilyn Monroe is also in the scene as Miss Caswell.

Classic Hollywood movie about famous actors pretending to be famous actors.

Great script, but it's merely a movie about actors pretending to be actors.

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Response to longship (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 06:57 PM

13. No, I'm saying Hillary and Elizabeth would be my Betty Davis movie

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Response to Paulie (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 11:26 AM

58. Oh the similarity in apperance...

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 05:47 PM

2. You must be joking.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 05:48 PM

3. I don't know, Manny, that's a lot of responsibility.

I think we ought to let Joe Biden stay in there as VP. He's done pretty well. Maybe Hillary could be Press Secretary or something.

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Response to LuvNewcastle (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 05:49 PM

5. Everyone is a comedian................

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 05:49 PM

4. Nice trolling

Made me laugh to beat the band. Parts, anyway. I didn't like seeing Donny go.

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Response to Courtesy Flush (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:12 PM

65. LOL!

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 05:53 PM

6. A great Veep for Martin O'Malley. nt

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 06:01 PM

9. One thing I can absolutely guarantee is that it will not be an all-female ticket.

Hillary's running-mate will be a man. John Hickenlooper is one name that has been mentioned, for example.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/19/john-hickenlooper-hillary_n_3625052.html

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 06:05 PM

10. Frackenlooper?

 

Last edited Sat Nov 16, 2013, 09:57 PM - Edit history (2)

Meh. O'Malley, Sherrod Brown, any number of people but please not another DINO.

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:07 PM

16. You can say that again.

I live in CO and can't stand him. I'd have to vote holding my nose.

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 09:53 PM

23. + a zillion

 

from a native but former resident (i.e. Restless Native). I get cross-eyed with anger when I visit...

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 07:22 PM

14. My Governor, John I fucking love fracking so much I drink the fluid Hickenlooper??

Fuck that. PASS

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 11:22 AM

57. Yeah, they only do that crazy-ass shite in Texas.

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 06:45 PM

12. I don't believe that Hillary would accept the role of VP. (n/t)

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Response to spin (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 11:00 PM

27. she sure wanted it

after Obama beat her in the primary.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #27)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:08 PM

64. But what she was hoping for at that time was to run for President in 2016. ...

Being the Vice President would have been a great launching pad.

Hillary was born in 1947. If she ran for VP in 2016 she would be 69. Assume her running mate gets elected and serves two terms. If she ran for President then, she would be 78. If she won twice she would be 86 at the end of her two terms. Many people would feel that she was too old for the job and decide to go with a younger candidate.

John McCain was 72 when he ran for President in 2008. A number of people I know were hesitant to vote for him as they feared the stress of the job might kill him and Sara Palin would assume the office.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 07:23 PM

15. I don't want Hillary anywhere near the WH.

 

Especially after that TPP bullshit.

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 09:36 PM

21. +1000

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:16 AM

49. +100000

Even jokes about it make me need my blankie.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:11 PM

17. I think Hillary would be a great president and should play second to no one.

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #17)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:30 AM

51. Righ, with Jamie Dimon in the number two spot!

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #51)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 11:35 AM

61. LOL. Bullseye.

 

That's what a Clinton presidency would be about: The continued selling-out of the American middle class to the banking class by Democratic Presidents started by her husband.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #51)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 03:55 PM

75. I hope not. He should be in jail.

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:13 PM

18. LOL

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 09:27 PM

19. Must be a dark and stormy night.

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 09:30 PM

20. Alerted...

for insinuating, even in jest that Clinton or her supporters would try to kill Elizabeth Warren.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 11:00 PM

28. Let them.

It'll be even sweeter when Warren says for the umpteenth time that she's not running. They are childish and offensive, that's all they got.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:39 AM

39. Reality is meaningless to many.

They love to waste time on idle speculation. They know it's bad for the party because this endless, mindless focus on 2016 plays into the Republicans hands by taking our attention away from the 2014 election, but they don't care.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:29 PM

67. You've missed the problem...

 

there is a large and determined block of the left, and not just on DU, that has made it clear they will not countenance a Hillary nomination.

It doesn't matter who bears the standard for liberal Democratic positions in the 2016 Presidential primary if Libby Warren does not because someone will...and we will turn out for that person. We will campaign harder against Clinton in the primaries than we do against the GOP in the GE because we view her as the larger visceral threat to Democratic economic values than the eventual GOP nominee; she is the enemy within, a cancer of RW economic values that must be excised and irradiated to insure the survival of the Democratic Party.

There is no possibility of a non-bloodbath primary as long as Hillary runs. What is energizing the rising economic left is the possibility of strangling out Third Way economics in the Democratic party with a second denial of Hillary ever being President at the same time we're taking contesting the local offices and roots of the party. This is the left's Waterloo of a larger campaign for the future of the Democratic party: are we to be the party of corporatists and moderately-progressive social positions or are we to be the economic & socially liberal party? It's going to make 2008 look like a hands-holding Kumbaya campfire sing-along.

This isn't about Libby Warren...it's about Hillary Clinton.

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Response to Chan790 (Reply #67)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:46 PM

69. Well, they'll be a much larger group of the Democratic party who will fight back,

if Hillary does choose to run (which at this point we don't know). The Left can push their candidate, the rest of the party will push theirs and let the bloody candidate who is still standing at the end go and fight the Republican nominee in the g.e. Of course it will be a weakened candidate, but the Left wouldn't give a crap about that. This won't be like 2008 where people were so disgusted with Bush that Mickey Mouse would have won if he had been the Democratic nominee. It's going to be hard enough to keep the WH in 2016.

BTW, I give a lot more credit to Elizabeth Warren than some of you do. If it's clear that Hillary runs, I doubt that Liz would want a bloody confrontation with her. They like and respect each other. One thing is for Warren to go after Wall Street and another would be to use the same tone going after a fellow Democrat. I don't see her wanting to do that.

Now that the battlefield is clear, let the games begin.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #69)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:32 PM

78. They got the candidate they wanted in 2008 and now they're basically calling him a DINO, so why

should we trust their judgement now? Apparently they're easily fooled.

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Response to Metric System (Reply #78)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:45 PM

80. Yes, now some are disappointed.

It was to be expected.

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Response to Chan790 (Reply #67)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:54 PM

73. ...





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Response to Beacool (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:22 PM

74. How many times has Hillary said she's not running? n/t

 

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 11:47 PM

31. If I had a buck for each time I had a post alerted on...

 

We'd need my former neighbor, Carl Sagan, to meaningfully explain the magnitude of my wealth within the context of our universe.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #20)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:06 AM

32. what were the results ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #32)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:23 AM

34. 4-2 to keep it

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: Enough. I'm not supporting Hillary in the primaries but some people clearly want this to be Green Party Occupy Ralph Nader Roolez underground. Hillary is a Democrat. Deal with it.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Seriously?
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: Yea, Manny is stepping over the line - yet again.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: It's a joke. Geez.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Lighten up, people.


Perhaps someone could explain how this joke is funny? Perhaps then we could all enjoy it.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #34)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:33 AM

36. Ha! Cheated the hangman again!

 

But next time, my luck might not hold:



(I was likely at that concert... I was cool once...)

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #36)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 11:38 AM

62. Went to the one in Austin...

 

Some guy named Stevie Ray Vaughan opened to tepid applause. The only concert (1980) where capacity of the torn-down Coliseum was reached (3,500), and the band was impromptu-scheduled the next night in the same venue. The day in between, the band did the "Rock the Casbah" music video locally. Great old times.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #62)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:27 PM

66. What'd you think of them?

 

I saw them at Bond's in NYC, 1981. Twice. They did something like 10 nights there. Best concerts I ever saw.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #66)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:47 PM

70. Musician-wise, they were fairly good technically...

 

What made them good was the authenticity, the grand sound of the times; they were a Part of humanity, not some shock rock. They seemed to prefer the sun to the moon, a smiling face to the endless skulls, what happened to someone rather than what they could do to someone.

I loved "White Riot."

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #36)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:26 PM

82. Here's the original -

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #36)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:35 PM

86. I'm going to miss you Manny when Hillary is President. :(

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #20)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 03:52 AM

43. Wow, ridiculous alert of the month

 




It really is good to have a sense of humor, even regarding the Queen and Absolute Ruler of the Universe, Hillary Clinton. Amen.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #43)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:13 AM

45. For once I agree with you

If the person sat down and thought about it, logically what was said made sense. The number 2 person on the ticket is usually someone who can go after the opponents. The rest was just opinion. It's too bad it wasn't 6-0 to let it stand.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #45)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:29 AM

46. Indeed. Then I looked down and saw post #33, and just had to facepalm

 



Yes, Manny was seriously speculating that Hillary would plan to kill Elizabeth if she was the Vice President under Warren.

Something in the water apparently regarding posts in this thread.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 09:51 PM

22. I doubt her ego would allow it, and I don't mean that in a negative way. n/t

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 09:55 PM

24. I think you would make a great VP candidate

Clinton/Goldstein 2016!

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 03:24 AM

41. Non, non, no.......

Warren/Goldstein!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 09:56 PM

25. I think Hillary would prefer to be the #2 under Sachs.

 

I'll bet they pay waaaaay better than Senator Warren would deem appropriate.



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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 10:55 PM

26. What a back-handed compliment. nt

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 11:18 PM

29. really?? Veep to someone less qualified??

or just more male???

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Response to demigoddess (Reply #29)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:41 PM

68. I prefer to think of it as simply someone not Hillary.

 

I'm sure there's an equally qualified female we could run for President who has the added benefit of not being a center-right Democrat in the pocket of Wall Street, big banking and the oligarchy like the Clintons are. (I know there is at-least one, I also know why she's not running.)

They're just not as exciting as Libby Warren to talk about at this point.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 11:23 PM

30. That's exactly what my Republican neighbors

said about Obama if he picked Hillary.

They were voting for Obama because their son had adopted a black child..but uh, uh, to the First Black President's wife (well, he used to be).

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:07 AM

33. you think Clintons would try to kill Elizabeth Warren ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #33)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:27 AM

35. No.

 

It was tongue-in-cheek.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #33)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:17 AM

50. Please, they have people to do that.


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Response to woo me with science (Reply #50)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 09:32 AM

55. DUzy

 

Laughed so hard I woke the missus up.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:39 AM

37. Yeah, as long as I don't have to attend that high school.

But why demote Elizabeth Warren?

Oh wait... you didn't mean Vice Principal. Nevermind.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:40 AM

38. For real...

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:46 AM

40. Manny, Manny, Manny...

 



what do we do with you

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 03:45 AM

42. "An all-female ticket would be great, too."

 

Um. Now I get it. OK...

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:11 AM

44. The most dangerous job in the world?

Food taster for President Warren.

The woman is making some remarkably implacable enemies.

Ming the Merciless would look like Barney the Dinosaur next to some of them.

I'm reminded of that old saying, friends come and go but enemies accumulate.


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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 05:18 AM

47. Howard Dean supports Hillary for President

Get in line. Sheesh!

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Response to ProSense (Reply #47)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 09:13 AM

53. When Howard was Chairman, he went on TV and insisted to the world that the Democratic

 

platform had a plank opposing marriage equality. Of course he was lying. Or alternatively he was utterly uninformed about our own platform and about the voters in our Party.
I called his office, they called back all apology and muttered chagrin, but Howie failed to go back to that show to correct his spewed verbal bullshit.
Howard supports lots of things I don't support. His support is reason to be cautious.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:12 AM

48. I for one would prefer if Hillary just retired from seeking elected office

 

She was elected Senator and Appointed Sec of State she has done enough, it is time for her to step aside, it is time for some new blood in the party to lead the party in a new direction and I just don't see how a former Goldwater Girl will lead the party in a direction that will be good for the country.



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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:33 AM

52. I'm not wild about Hillary either. Don't get me wrong, I'll

 

vote for her if that's my only choice. Between her and a no good republican, you have to go with Hillary. I'm sick of these DINO's presidents, and Hillary is a DINO.

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Response to B Calm (Reply #52)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:42 PM

79. If we want to get rid of DINOs,

we have to start lower down and get rid of republicans in the lower offices. More democratic control means dems will be freer to be more left leaning in their policies.

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Response to demigoddess (Reply #79)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:16 PM

81. I couldn't agree more with you!

 

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Response to Post removed (Reply #54)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:49 PM

71. Even as a joke, that inference is disgusting!!!!

Particularly since next week will be the 50th anniversary of JFK's assassination.

WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH SOME OF YOU??????????????



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Response to Beacool (Reply #71)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:29 PM

83. Glad that

it was alerted on.

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Response to LiberalElite (Reply #83)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 08:28 PM

87. I don't get what the hell is going on over here.

I understand political differences and preferring certain politicians over others, but this nastiness and inference that the Clintons would kill people is just sickening. It's even worse when it's coming from a Democratic site. That's the kind of vile behavior that one sees on RW sites.



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Response to Beacool (Reply #87)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 08:49 PM

88. Agreed and

The use of that photo in service of making a joke is insensitive at best - I was a teenager at the time of the JFK assassination.

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Response to LiberalElite (Reply #88)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 08:55 PM

89. I wasn't even around and I still find it a lot more than insensitive.

It was a terrible time for the country and to use that photo in an attempt to make some lame joke is offensive an divisive.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 10:13 AM

56. I think she makes a great retiree n/t

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 11:28 AM

59. Message removed by jury decision.

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 11:35 AM

60. Manny, we're in the middle of an election campaign right now.

Please do not disturb the results.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 11:38 AM

63. LOL. Love these "Third Way" Manny posts.

Oh, wait, you're serious? And you want to be the voice for the Left here on DU? Does not compute.

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Response to Romulox (Reply #63)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:50 PM

72. If Manny is comfortable with Hillary being a heartbeat away from the presidency,

that makes me feel even better about supporting her for president.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #72)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 09:45 PM

90. If you feel better about it, I feel much worse.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 03:59 PM

76. People made the same ugly food-taster comments

when Hillary Clinton was being considered as Obama's running mate. The people who said that were thinking ugly thoughts.

It's a bad association you bring to mind, Manny. A bad one, indeed. Please think longer before posting, OK?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:02 PM

77. Even a VP candidate she might exceed my nose-holding abilities.

 

Maybe if Warren, or another progressive, would promise her Vice-Consul to Andorra.....

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:33 PM

84. I pretty much like all Democrats.

Don't understand all the attacks on good Democrats.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 06:35 PM

85. I don't want her anywhere near the White House ever again (nt)

 

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