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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think Hillary would make a great VP
She's a ferocious attack dog, which is what we need in a #2 on the ticket. Although President Warren would need a food taster if it happened, it'd be worth it.
An all-female ticket would be great, too.
monmouth3
(3,871 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Paulie
(8,462 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Classic Hollywood movie about famous actors pretending to be famous actors.
Great script, but it's merely a movie about actors pretending to be actors.
Paulie
(8,462 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,835 posts)I think we ought to let Joe Biden stay in there as VP. He's done pretty well. Maybe Hillary could be Press Secretary or something.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Courtesy Flush
(4,558 posts)Made me laugh to beat the band. Parts, anyway. I didn't like seeing Donny go.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Hillary's running-mate will be a man. John Hickenlooper is one name that has been mentioned, for example.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/19/john-hickenlooper-hillary_n_3625052.html
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 16, 2013, 10:57 PM - Edit history (2)
Meh. O'Malley, Sherrod Brown, any number of people but please not another DINO.
Laffy Kat
(16,373 posts)I live in CO and can't stand him. I'd have to vote holding my nose.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)from a native but former resident (i.e. Restless Native). I get cross-eyed with anger when I visit...
Autumn
(44,984 posts)Fuck that. PASS
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)after Obama beat her in the primary.
spin
(17,493 posts)Being the Vice President would have been a great launching pad.
Hillary was born in 1947. If she ran for VP in 2016 she would be 69. Assume her running mate gets elected and serves two terms. If she ran for President then, she would be 78. If she won twice she would be 86 at the end of her two terms. Many people would feel that she was too old for the job and decide to go with a younger candidate.
John McCain was 72 when he ran for President in 2008. A number of people I know were hesitant to vote for him as they feared the stress of the job might kill him and Sara Palin would assume the office.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Especially after that TPP bullshit.
dflprincess
(28,072 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Even jokes about it make me need my blankie.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)That's what a Clinton presidency would be about: The continued selling-out of the American middle class to the banking class by Democratic Presidents started by her husband.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)wilsonbooks
(972 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)brooklynite
(94,363 posts)for insinuating, even in jest that Clinton or her supporters would try to kill Elizabeth Warren.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)It'll be even sweeter when Warren says for the umpteenth time that she's not running. They are childish and offensive, that's all they got.
BainsBane
(53,016 posts)They love to waste time on idle speculation. They know it's bad for the party because this endless, mindless focus on 2016 plays into the Republicans hands by taking our attention away from the 2014 election, but they don't care.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)there is a large and determined block of the left, and not just on DU, that has made it clear they will not countenance a Hillary nomination.
It doesn't matter who bears the standard for liberal Democratic positions in the 2016 Presidential primary if Libby Warren does not because someone will...and we will turn out for that person. We will campaign harder against Clinton in the primaries than we do against the GOP in the GE because we view her as the larger visceral threat to Democratic economic values than the eventual GOP nominee; she is the enemy within, a cancer of RW economic values that must be excised and irradiated to insure the survival of the Democratic Party.
There is no possibility of a non-bloodbath primary as long as Hillary runs. What is energizing the rising economic left is the possibility of strangling out Third Way economics in the Democratic party with a second denial of Hillary ever being President at the same time we're taking contesting the local offices and roots of the party. This is the left's Waterloo of a larger campaign for the future of the Democratic party: are we to be the party of corporatists and moderately-progressive social positions or are we to be the economic & socially liberal party? It's going to make 2008 look like a hands-holding Kumbaya campfire sing-along.
This isn't about Libby Warren...it's about Hillary Clinton.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)if Hillary does choose to run (which at this point we don't know). The Left can push their candidate, the rest of the party will push theirs and let the bloody candidate who is still standing at the end go and fight the Republican nominee in the g.e. Of course it will be a weakened candidate, but the Left wouldn't give a crap about that. This won't be like 2008 where people were so disgusted with Bush that Mickey Mouse would have won if he had been the Democratic nominee. It's going to be hard enough to keep the WH in 2016.
BTW, I give a lot more credit to Elizabeth Warren than some of you do. If it's clear that Hillary runs, I doubt that Liz would want a bloody confrontation with her. They like and respect each other. One thing is for Warren to go after Wall Street and another would be to use the same tone going after a fellow Democrat. I don't see her wanting to do that.
Now that the battlefield is clear, let the games begin.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)should we trust their judgement now? Apparently they're easily fooled.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)It was to be expected.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)We'd need my former neighbor, Carl Sagan, to meaningfully explain the magnitude of my wealth within the context of our universe.
JI7
(89,241 posts)brooklynite
(94,363 posts)Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Seriously?
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: Yea, Manny is stepping over the line - yet again.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: It's a joke. Geez.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Lighten up, people.
Perhaps someone could explain how this joke is funny? Perhaps then we could all enjoy it.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)But next time, my luck might not hold:
(I was likely at that concert... I was cool once...)
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Some guy named Stevie Ray Vaughan opened to tepid applause. The only concert (1980) where capacity of the torn-down Coliseum was reached (3,500), and the band was impromptu-scheduled the next night in the same venue. The day in between, the band did the "Rock the Casbah" music video locally. Great old times.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)I saw them at Bond's in NYC, 1981. Twice. They did something like 10 nights there. Best concerts I ever saw.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)What made them good was the authenticity, the grand sound of the times; they were a Part of humanity, not some shock rock. They seemed to prefer the sun to the moon, a smiling face to the endless skulls, what happened to someone rather than what they could do to someone.
I loved "White Riot."
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)joshcryer
(62,269 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)It really is good to have a sense of humor, even regarding the Queen and Absolute Ruler of the Universe, Hillary Clinton. Amen.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)If the person sat down and thought about it, logically what was said made sense. The number 2 person on the ticket is usually someone who can go after the opponents. The rest was just opinion. It's too bad it wasn't 6-0 to let it stand.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)Yes, Manny was seriously speculating that Hillary would plan to kill Elizabeth if she was the Vice President under Warren.
Something in the water apparently regarding posts in this thread.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Clinton/Goldstein 2016!
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Warren/Goldstein!
Wilms
(26,795 posts)I'll bet they pay waaaaay better than Senator Warren would deem appropriate.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)demigoddess
(6,640 posts)or just more male???
Chan790
(20,176 posts)I'm sure there's an equally qualified female we could run for President who has the added benefit of not being a center-right Democrat in the pocket of Wall Street, big banking and the oligarchy like the Clintons are. (I know there is at-least one, I also know why she's not running.)
They're just not as exciting as Libby Warren to talk about at this point.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)said about Obama if he picked Hillary.
They were voting for Obama because their son had adopted a black child..but uh, uh, to the First Black President's wife (well, he used to be).
JI7
(89,241 posts)It was tongue-in-cheek.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Laughed so hard I woke the missus up.
PETRUS
(3,678 posts)But why demote Elizabeth Warren?
Oh wait... you didn't mean Vice Principal. Nevermind.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)what do we do with you
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Um. Now I get it. OK...
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Food taster for President Warren.
The woman is making some remarkably implacable enemies.
Ming the Merciless would look like Barney the Dinosaur next to some of them.
I'm reminded of that old saying, friends come and go but enemies accumulate.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Get in line. Sheesh!
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)platform had a plank opposing marriage equality. Of course he was lying. Or alternatively he was utterly uninformed about our own platform and about the voters in our Party.
I called his office, they called back all apology and muttered chagrin, but Howie failed to go back to that show to correct his spewed verbal bullshit.
Howard supports lots of things I don't support. His support is reason to be cautious.
Morphia
(49 posts)She was elected Senator and Appointed Sec of State she has done enough, it is time for her to step aside, it is time for some new blood in the party to lead the party in a new direction and I just don't see how a former Goldwater Girl will lead the party in a direction that will be good for the country.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)vote for her if that's my only choice. Between her and a no good republican, you have to go with Hillary. I'm sick of these DINO's presidents, and Hillary is a DINO.
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)we have to start lower down and get rid of republicans in the lower offices. More democratic control means dems will be freer to be more left leaning in their policies.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
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Beacool
(30,247 posts)Particularly since next week will be the 50th anniversary of JFK's assassination.
WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH SOME OF YOU??????????????
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)it was alerted on.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)I understand political differences and preferring certain politicians over others, but this nastiness and inference that the Clintons would kill people is just sickening. It's even worse when it's coming from a Democratic site. That's the kind of vile behavior that one sees on RW sites.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)The use of that photo in service of making a joke is insensitive at best - I was a teenager at the time of the JFK assassination.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)It was a terrible time for the country and to use that photo in an attempt to make some lame joke is offensive an divisive.
cali
(114,904 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)Please do not disturb the results.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)Oh, wait, you're serious? And you want to be the voice for the Left here on DU? Does not compute.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)that makes me feel even better about supporting her for president.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)MineralMan
(146,262 posts)when Hillary Clinton was being considered as Obama's running mate. The people who said that were thinking ugly thoughts.
It's a bad association you bring to mind, Manny. A bad one, indeed. Please think longer before posting, OK?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Maybe if Warren, or another progressive, would promise her Vice-Consul to Andorra.....
Kingofalldems
(38,425 posts)Don't understand all the attacks on good Democrats.