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True Fascism (Original Post) bluedeathray Nov 2013 OP
or 'certainty'. pansypoo53219 Nov 2013 #1
greatest page. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #2
One can find quotes detailing the place we're at now BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #3
This ultra-nationism Enthusiast Nov 2013 #4
k&r for the truth. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #5
They cannot deny it, so they will not address it. annabanana Nov 2013 #6
K&R woo me with science Nov 2013 #7
Gosh.... bvar22 Nov 2013 #8
kick woo me with science Nov 2013 #9
Excellent. K&R nt TBF Nov 2013 #10
Great. So now what? n/t Scootaloo Nov 2013 #11
Well historically... bluedeathray Nov 2013 #15
Oh well. Won't be the first collapsed state, won't be the last Scootaloo Nov 2013 #16
Whole hearted DU Rec Joe Shlabotnik Nov 2013 #12
K&R The problems are well defined and the solutions are plain. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #13
So much for capitalism and democracy being synonymous, right? nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #14

BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
3. One can find quotes detailing the place we're at now
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 05:37 AM
Nov 2013

going back several hundred, if not thousands, of years. Will we ever learn, I wonder. Not unless the press becomes free again and history & civics classes are upgraded massively in education.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
6. They cannot deny it, so they will not address it.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 07:27 AM
Nov 2013

And the vast mass of citizenry will be left blinking stupidly in the headlights of the oncoming train.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
8. Gosh....
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 04:38 PM
Nov 2013

In the 30s:

*use provocation of terrorist attacks

*continual wars

*invocations of Homeland Security to tame the press

*muzzle criticism

*tap Corporate Executives to run the ministries

*encourage friendly corporations to absorb the Media

*pour government money into corporate coffers

*enrich the wealthiest classes

*privatize the commons

*pared down Constitutional Rights


Damn.
Why does all that seem so familiar?



You will know them by their [font size=3]WORKS,[/font]
not by their excuses.

bluedeathray

(511 posts)
15. Well historically...
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 03:03 AM
Nov 2013

Most societies exhibiting these traits keep riding that train until the inevitable collapse. It seems obvious to us that as our masters spend more resources on "security", that we become less secure. This leads to totalitarianism... I hope it's not too bloody if/when it falls apart. Typically those situations are very hard on the very young and old. It seems odd that it's not obvious to many others.

But Americans have been effectively "handled". We aren't in the streets demanding adherence to the Constitution, and transparency. It seems that some of us are trying to make ends meet, and it soaks up a lot of our efforts. And many others are profiting (no matter how short term) from the status quo.

So America, the greatest social experiment in human history, is diminished. Never mind that it would be easier, and more profitable to do the right thing(s).

Peace out.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
16. Oh well. Won't be the first collapsed state, won't be the last
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 03:17 AM
Nov 2013

Ending is inevitable, and hey, 250 years isn't an awful run for a country. Granted, it's not Egypt's six thousand or anything, but I'm pretty sure they're cheating, anyway.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
14. So much for capitalism and democracy being synonymous, right?
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:57 AM
Nov 2013

(Though I know they're only synonymous in the minds of "libertarian" idiots.)

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