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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 10:55 AM Nov 2013

“I’ve been turned down from McDonald’s because I was told I was too articulate”

“I’ve been turned down from McDonald’s because I was told I was too articulate,” she says. “I got denied a job scrubbing toilets because I didn’t speak Spanish and turned away from a laundromat because I was ‘too pretty.’ I’ve also been told point-blank to my face, ‘We don’t hire the unemployed.’ And the two times I got real interest from a prospective employer, the credit check ended it immediately.”

For Ms. Barrington-Ward, joblessness itself has become a trap, an impediment to finding a job. Economists see it the same way, concerned that joblessness lasting more than six months is a major factor preventing people from getting rehired, with potentially grave consequences for tens of millions of Americans.

The long-term jobless, after all, tend to be in poorer health, and to have higher rates of suicide and strained family relations. Even the children of the long-term unemployed see lower earnings down the road.

The consequences are grave for the country, too: lost production, increased social spending, decreased tax revenue and slower growth. Policy makers and academics are now asking whether an improving economy might absorb those workers in time to prevent long-term economic damage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/17/business/caught-in-unemployments-revolving-door.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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RKP5637

(67,078 posts)
1. US will have wandering tribes, probably already does, people unemployed, screwed by
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 11:11 AM
Nov 2013

the system, on the fringe through no fault of their own, on the peripheral looking in ... because the current system is a caste system, although no physically identifiable marks are placed on one ... but electronically from a records perspective, tangible or intangible ... they are locked out! It is a recipe for disaster in the big picture.

thecrow

(5,519 posts)
8. Stop! You are talking about me!
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 12:11 PM
Nov 2013

Me and millions of other people.... too qualified, or underqualified because I did the same thing for over 40 years and I'm applying for a entry level job because there is no work in my sector.
And I'm over 60 and have not had a new job since 2008, when I got "laid off" from an 18 year job.
Where do we sign up for the wandering tribe?

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
5. Don't most studies show people of color like her have a higher unemploymnt rate in all /most states?
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 11:27 AM
Nov 2013

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
4. They shouldn't be running credit checks as part of the hiring process
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 11:24 AM
Nov 2013

Chances are if you're unemployed for any long time your credit is gonna be screwed. I'm so sick of this capitalism run amok society we live in

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
9. I agree. I think that should be illegal.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 12:13 PM
Nov 2013

It's class discrimination, plain and simple, and it absolutely prevents any kind of upward mobility - not exactly something you want to see in a modern, democratic society.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
6. Too articulate...
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 11:28 AM
Nov 2013

I was told the same thing once, after taking a basic test for an office job.

The problem was, I had scored too highly for the position.

Oh well. I probably would have hated it anyway, as the office manager told me that the women always had to wear dresses or skirts. Which I hate...

ck4829

(35,020 posts)
7. "Yer too book-learned for our jobs" and acting surprised when the jobless have poor credit
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 12:09 PM
Nov 2013

Because just because people don't have jobs doesn't mean they have to stop paying for food and rent. Really? Really, 'job creators'?

Our system isn't just becoming Idiocracy, it's running as fast as it can while screaming straight into it.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
10. Her resume probably sets off all sorts of alarm bells.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 12:14 PM
Nov 2013
It took weeks to put the paperwork together, given that her papers and belongings were scattered across the country — there was a broken-down car and boxes of paperwork in Virginia Beach, clothes in Colorado and personal possessions at a friend’s house in Somerville, Mass. She managed to estimate her income — maybe $5,000 last year, but maybe half that this year — from odd jobs. Soon, she would officially have nothing.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
13. I agree....sure the article sounds bad, but we don't know if this person actually *is* hireable...
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:22 PM
Nov 2013

or if she is a hiring manager's nightmare.

We just did a lot of hiring and some people present themselves so poorly on their resume and in person that I'm not surprised a lot of them are still unemployed.

bluedeathray

(511 posts)
12. You can probably count with...
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:17 PM
Nov 2013

Your hands behind your back too.

Poverty level wage payers need stupid employees to maintain the power over them. Sad state of affairs.

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