And yet some people keep saying; "global climate change is just a theory."

[Botany]

11/17/13 Washington, Illinois



Tornados are fueled in part when large masses of warm air meet up with cooler air ... in the mid west they
have tended to be spring and summer events.

[daleanime]

1. K&R....

[PowerToThePeople]

2. It is just a natural cycle. n/t

[Botany]

3. Just like an ice free north pole

We had tornado sirens going off here in Ohio last night. November 17th and we
are having tornados??????

[wercal]

6. Here's a list of November tornadoes in Ohio:

http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2009/05/details_of_ohios_868_tornadoes.html?appSession=204422886827546

You can play around with it here:

http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2009/05/details_of_ohios_868_tornadoes.html

And find January tornadoes.

[Botany]

9. thank you

very interesting ..... I'll spend some time looking @ it .... november 4.9% of all the tornados

[wercal]

10. Another way of looking at it

Since 1950, there have been 38 November tornados in Ohio, or a 60% chance of getting a tornado in any given year....although there seem to be in huge clusters in 1965 and 2002.

[joeglow3]

8. Please don't give deniers ammo

http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/07/29/about-lake-north-pole

[DesMoinesDem]

4. There is nothing new about tornadoes in November in the midwest.

There have been tornadoes in November in the midwest since they have been keeping records.

[penultimate]

5. I don't think many people deny that climate change is real

They just deny that humans have any real effect on it. Which seems a bit silly to me.

I went to this website and checked out it's data on tornadoes in the month of November. Some recent years have been pretty mild, but then you get the 'crazy years' that end up having over a 100 tornadoes during the month of November. Where as if you go 20, 30 or 40 years back the 'crazy years' might have like 50 or so during the month. The only thing that keeps me from saying with certainty that there is a for sure increase, is that I'm ignorant of how much technology (or interest) has increased the ability to detect tornadoes that may have gone undetected in the past. But that may not even be an issue, I'm just saying I know enough to state if it is or not.


http://www.tornadohistoryproject.com/tornado/

[LongTomH]

7. And you still run into global warming deniers who'll give you a....

.......Gish Gallop of denialist horseshit. The last time I ran into such a person was at, of all places, an anti-Monsanto rally in KC. He ended by throwing in the idea of abiotic oil, the idea that oil comes from other than biological sources. According to him: "The oil fields in Saudi Arabia" have been filling up" -- which is, of course bullshit. The estimates of Saudi oil reserves were boosted when those fields were sold.

And when you lose patience with these people, they say: "Oh, you're being rude to me!" I don't know if I regret being rude to that schmuck, or if I just regret letting him live!

On DU, I run into just the opposite, people who just keep saying "We're doomed! We're doomed! There's nothing we can do!" In either case, it becomes impossible to carry on a rational discussion of alternatives.

[tjwash]

11. Yes - just like super-typhoons are a cyclical occurrence