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Elizabeth Warren Isnt Running For President, Top Financial Backer Tells DemocratsPaul Egerman, a Warren gatekeeper, waves donors off the hype over the senators possible presidential run. Its not gonna happen, one funder says.
By Ruby Cramer
BuzzFeed
11/18/13
Elizabeth Warrens former national finance chair, Paul Egerman, has told several inquiring donors this month that, despite runaway speculation and a burning desire from the partys left wing, the freshman senator will not run for president in 2016.
Egerman, close to both Warren and to the heavy-hitting liberal base of funders who helped her raise $42 million last year, has been approached by donors in the last two weeks and told them that, no, Warren is not planning to run, according to two major players in Democratic financial circles who spoke with Egerman directly.
One Democratic fundraiser said he spoke with Egerman roughly two weeks ago, after articles by Peter Beinart in the Daily Beast and Noam Scheiber in the New Republic heightened fervor amongst the progressive wing of the party over whether Warren would ever challenge Hillary Clinton, already the presumed frontrunner, from the left.
Egerman, the fundraiser said, quickly threw cold water on the theory. Its not gonna happen, the source said.
The rest: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/elizabeth-warren-financial-backer-tells-donors-no-chance-on?bftw=
One less "2016" thing to talk about.
2014.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)The only viable candidate will be a centrist/corporatist ...as usual.
brooklynite
(94,452 posts)...I don't object to an open Primary, but if all you're going to do is complain and make excuses why your candidate (fill in the blanks) could never have run, it makes our job easier.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)brooklynite
(94,452 posts)I didn't know that Democrats supporting opposing candidates in an open political process were enemies. But then, I didn't know there was a correct candidiate we all had to support.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)brooklynite
(94,452 posts)...many of which will likely support her again.
Or has Third Way grown more that I thought it had?
cali
(114,904 posts)However, she wouldn't be the first person who said no and than changed their mind.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)as they always say in my professional ethics courses.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)that nobody else is going to put the people ahead of corporations and the 1%.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Obama sure as hell didn't do it. And Ive had just about enough of this bullshit, myself.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)A photoshop I did then that reflects my sentiments then and still reflects them now!
Perhaps Warren doesn't have a "secret" like Edwards had, or doesn't want to be "given a secret" like he had that would make the corporatists comfortable having her run to take the progressive votes away from other candidates like Edwards did until it was time to have his candidacy "ended".
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Do you think TPTB knew about his "secret" from the beginning?
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)If you have any evidence that she's not fundraising, I'd like to see it.
Noam Scheiber, in his New Republic essay from last week, shows that Elizabeth Warren is already the 3rd best fundraiser in the Democratic Party--right behind Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Looks to me like fundraising is a serious concern of hers.
-Laelth
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)And whether she ends up running or not, the time to be recruiting and publicizing possible alternatives to the corporate stranglehold on our government is NOW. Warren, Sanders, Grayson, etc. Time to build momentum to reject corporatism and find candidates for the people.
Real change is never considered a serious option until people begin talking about it as a serious option. The ONLY way corporatists maintain the fiction that real change isn't possible is by keeping it out of the debate.
The DLC/Third Way will whine and complain that it's too early to talk about 2016, but their MO is always to try to get everybody to shut up until it's too late.
It's time to get the country focused on making real change happen.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
brooklynite
(94,452 posts)...but it's been the people responding to the startup of pro-Hillary efforts who've been pushing the "it's only 2013 message". Nothing to do with Third Way...or the millions of liberal Democrats who'll be supporting Hillary as well.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)I sincerely appreciate this post from you.
-Laelth
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)you can figure out a way to take about 15 years off him.
I say this as a 69 year-old, professionally active geezer who couldn't imagine pulling together what it would take to run for national office for the first time at age 75.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)I love that we are seeing excited talk about multiple possibilities. And I am hoping that more names appear as the country starts discussing these candidates and the REAL differences between what we have now and what could be possible with a real representative of the 99 percent in office. We have been fed the lie too long that corporate Democrats are doing the best they can for us, and that MAJOR POLICY CHANGE FOR THE 99 PERCENT is not possible. It's all about shedding the helplessness in the country and waking America to the fact that we don't have to accept what they have been feeding us.
The goal of the "shut up" meme is to make the corporate candidate, again, a foregone conclusion. If we start now, we can blow that out of the water.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)dig Russ Feingold out of whatever part of Africa he's hiding in & draft him?
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)You seem to be mocking the desire to and the process of finding and promoting a better candidate, which surprises me.
Bernie is too old, so we give up? Thinking about other options is "dreaming"?
Do you really think Hillary, who is DLC to the core and has been instrumental in the war machine *and* the TPP, is the best Democrats can do?
History shows that change comes from the people, and it can happen rapidly once the people consider ideas to be viable. The country overwhelmingly supports policies that these candidates, and hopefully others, support. Austerity slows economies and feeds the one percent at the expense of the rest of us. Americans overwhelmingly oppose it. Americans across party lines favor protecting the social safety nets. Americans across party lines are against the surveillance state.
In all sincerity, why the sarcasm? Or am I misreading you?
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Bernie's too old to be a serious candidate.
I'd favor any credible candidate who stands to the left of the DLC. I think Liz is potentially a helluva good choice, and would rate her potential for winning above that of Grayson. There's a lot of time for things to happen between now & 2016.
I also happen to have a great fondness for Russ. I think he'd be a great President, but don't think he'd run, and he probably wouldn't win if he did. He just doesn't have that fabled fire in the belly. I guess the point of my post, if it had one (I popped it out without giving it a lot of thought) is that in some ideal world, decent, unassuming, thoughtful and profoundly humane guys like Russ would have a shot at it.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)but even further to the left. We cant wait any longer. 8 more years of a pro-corporation President and the 1% will be snacking on us for lunch. Its friggin ridiculous.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,843 posts)All the talk isn't rooted in reality, but it's harmless talk. I'll support her if she changes her mind, but I really don't think she's going to unless something happens that makes her feel like no one else could do as good a job as she could.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)I do appreciate your bringing this to our attention, but I sincerely hope that the liberals in this party can convince Elizabeth Warren to change her mind and run for President in 2016.
To those who would like to encourage her to run, contact information can be found here. Write to her or call her. You can make a difference!
You can add a Warren 2016 banner to your DU sig. line here.
You can join the Elizabeth Warren Group here.
-Laelth
onehandle
(51,122 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)mythical perfect standard against which to measure any real candidate. In other words, by not running she can become the candidate of whom it is said here, "if she had run she'd have done x, y, or z; would not have said a, b, or c; would have beaten Tom or Dick."
It's a perfect position to be in. If only people would say of me, "If she'd become a brain surgeon she'd have a perfect record of curing cancer patients!"
legcramp
(288 posts)MR. RUSSERT: When we talked back in November of 04, after your election, I said, Theres been enormous speculation about your political future. Will you serve your full six-year term as a United States senator from Illinois? Obama: Absolutely.
SEN. OBAMA: I will serve out my full six-year term. You know, Tim, if you get asked enough, sooner or later you get weary and you start looking for new ways of saying things, but my thinking has not changed.
MR. RUSSERT: But, butso you will not run for president or vice president in 2008?
SEN. OBAMA: I will not.
(End videotape)
MR. RUSSERT: You will not.
SEN. OBAMA: Well, thethat was how I was thinking at that time. And, and, you know, I dont want to be coy about this, given the responses that Ive been getting over the last several months, I have thought about the possibility. But I have not thought itabout it with the seriousness and depth that I think is required. My main focus right now is in the 06 and making sure that we retake the Congress. After ohafter November 7, Ill sit down and, and consider, and if at some point, I change my mind, I will make a public announcement and everybody will be able to go at me.
MR. RUSSERT: But its fair to say youre thinking about running for president in 2008?
SEN. OBAMA: Its fair, yes.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/15304689/#.UopQ58SURtY
-Laelth
Whisp
(24,096 posts)People are shitting their pants that Warren may actually run. It's great to see even such a challenge as this and all the handwringing in Camp Secret Clinton Letter Rumor.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It looks like just about every single person on this board would like for her to throw her hat in the ring. Are you talking about your inner circle of friends?
Whisp
(24,096 posts)and a lot of those are not my 'friends', in fact a lot are more like frenemies when it comes to Mrs. Clinton.
I don't have anyone on ignore so I see all opinions on this, maybe your ignore list is skewing what you see.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Makes more sense to build her reputation in the next few years...we all know her, but I don't know how much name recognition she has nation-wide.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)In that regard, she's right behind Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Elizabeth Warren is only two years younger than Hillary. If she's ever going to run for President, it needs to be in 2016, imo.
-Laelth
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)2016 is going to be nasty...the Repukes will nominate the NJ Bully or some Braindead Teabagger...Elizabteh might just not want to deal with such slime.
legcramp
(288 posts)Or are you conceding 2016 to the repukes?
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)If it's a Dem, I don't think she'd challenge, if it's a Repuke and phucks things up like they always do, she'll jump in.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Or a Republican?
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)Doesn't matter if she has no desire to run, the Warren-2016 brigade says.... when she sees how many of us are out here, she can't help but change her mind!
Elizabeth Warren has said she isn't running. She has said she would NEVER run against Hillary for the nomination, and even signed a petition asking Hillary to run.
Doesn't matter. The brigade will sprinkle fairy dust on her in her sleep to make her change her mind.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Why not help us instead of being ... well ... negative?
Help us to encourage Elizabeth Warren to run for President in 2016.
Contact information can be found here. Write to her or call her. You can make a difference!
You can add a Warren 2016 banner to your DU sig. line here.
You can join the Elizabeth Warren Group here.
-Laelth
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)....and then I'll pick one to support through the primaries.
And then when the primaries are over, I'll vote in the general for whichever candidate wins the primaries.
It is pointless and stupid to speculate on a race in which ZERO candidates have declared their candidacy.
By spring of 2015, there will be at least a half dozens Democrats who have thrown their hats into the ring. People who actually *WANT* to be President.
When that time comes, I'll pick one.
Sprinkling fairy dust on your dream candidate right now is just setting yourself for disappointment when they do what they have been telling you all along.... not run.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I can handle it. You, on the other hand, might consider that it helps us little for some people to rain on the parade of those liberals who have some hope for the future.
just a thought ...
-Laelth
polichick
(37,152 posts)yet.
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)Deal with 2016 after the election in 2014. This is so premature, and people's hopes get all built up for something that isn't going to happen. That only leads to disappointment.
BelgianMadCow
(5,379 posts)for a Hillary run? Because that's all my sig line means: I can't believe a corporate friendly DLCer is the best you can do.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I don't think Hillary Clinton is the best that WE can do. Otherwise, the mad cow has my agreement and support.
-Laelth
DrDan
(20,411 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)It's high time we had a Native American President.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Feel free to use as needed.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)Initech
(100,054 posts)Can you imagine a DOJ full of attorneys willing to prosecute the real billionaire white collar criminals instead of petty drug offenders?
Beacool
(30,247 posts)I think that she could kick butt in either post.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,228 posts)in place.
"despite runaway speculation and a burning desire from the partys left wing"
Somebody should have that printed on a tee shirt, especially the "runaway speculation"; pick any subject.
jazzimov
(1,456 posts)Gothmog
(145,046 posts)I personally like Senator Warren but I really do not want to take my eye off the 2014 races. Senator Davis is running against a GOP candidate who is well funded but is a mean spirited person without a sense of humor. I really want Senator Davis to win or to do well enough so that the GOP will no longer take Texas for granted.
I was involved in some county party meetings in March and April of this year where some county party leaders took the position that the Democrats in Texas needed to wait until 2016 when Hillary is on the ticket. I strongly objected to this position. Senator Davis' filibuster and candidacy is changing things in Texas. I have not seen this level of excitement in Texas. Right now, I am seeing more people show up at events than in 2008. In 2012 and 2010, we did not field a full slate of candidates in my county and right now we are going to have a pretty full slate. These people are running in 2014 because they see some hope for Texas.
Senator Davis is focusing on Hispanics and single white women voters. These two groups may support either Hillary Clinton or Senator Warren. In 2008, I supported President Obama and for a while we had very disruptive race between the Clinton forces and the Obama supporters. However, in 2008, I saw that the core of Senator Clinton's support in the Democratic party lied with women (especially single white women) and Hispanics. I would expect that these two groups would be supporting Hillary Clinton in 2016 but it is very possible that these groups would also support Senator Warren.
I hate to be blunt but as a Texan who has been voting for Democrats since 1976, I would love to see my state turn blue. Right now, Senator Wendy Davis is person leading that charge. After the 2014 races, I will see who else would advance this cause and look at all candidates who then running.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)that guy was a riot.
Sid