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WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 12:35 PM Nov 2013

Reid goes Nuclear


Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Thursday that he was proposing a historic change to Senate rules that would get rid of the filibuster for most presidential nominations.

“It’s time to change the Senate before this institution becomes obsolete,” Reid said in a lengthy floor speech on Thursday morning.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/harry-reid-nuclear-option-100199.html#ixzz2lIa5mEMd
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Reid goes Nuclear (Original Post) WI_DEM Nov 2013 OP
While this may be good for us in the short term, in the long term it kinda handicaps our ability to Erose999 Nov 2013 #1
Believe me, if the situation was reversed, the pukes would have nuked it 5 years ago. OffWithTheirHeads Nov 2013 #5
I thought situation was reversed in *'s last two years? n/t hughee99 Nov 2013 #8
The Dems didn't fillibuster EVERYTHING. OffWithTheirHeads Nov 2013 #9
No, it wasn't. Bradical79 Nov 2013 #12
Give em hell Harry! MoonRiver Nov 2013 #2
IMO Mr Dixon Nov 2013 #3
....but preserve the filibuster for Supreme Court picks. DJ13 Nov 2013 #4
We'll nuke that bridge when we come to it nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #6
I like that! DJ13 Nov 2013 #7
Hey, leave me outta this NuclearDem Nov 2013 #10
A straight up or down vote procon Nov 2013 #11
McConnell now throwing out a host a parliamentary blocking tactics brooklynite Nov 2013 #13
Mitch can't handle the truth ... napkinz Nov 2013 #14

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
1. While this may be good for us in the short term, in the long term it kinda handicaps our ability to
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 12:40 PM
Nov 2013

deal with objectionable choices from a GOP president if we need to. Say a President Christie wants to appoint somebody like John Bolton as secy' of state, we'd have less power to stop that.
 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
12. No, it wasn't.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 01:09 PM
Nov 2013

The Democrats might have been in the position to cause a similar situation, but did not commit to complete obstructionism the way the Republicans have. The Republican actions have been pretty unprecedented I think.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
3. IMO
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 12:44 PM
Nov 2013

At this point what do we have to lose, nothing is getting done away so give them hell Harry. Also we could keep voting to keep a Democratic in the White House until the end of days the country is leaning that way already.

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
4. ....but preserve the filibuster for Supreme Court picks.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 12:45 PM
Nov 2013

Why?

If the GOP is fighting all judicial appointees to the death, they arent going to compromise on the even more important USSC nominees.

procon

(15,805 posts)
11. A straight up or down vote
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 01:05 PM
Nov 2013

So, now Reid needs just a simple majority of 51 senators to approve non–Supreme Court judicial and executive branch nominees. I look at this as restoring the Constitutional obligations and duties of the President to fill these slots, and while the opposition has the right to 'advise and consent', they will no longer have the unchecked option to obstruct.

Republicans brought this on themselves, but Grassley has already threatened to retaliate -- in the event that the GOP takes the Senate -- and alter the rules so that Democrats could not even filibuster a Republican Supreme Court nominee.

I'm happy Reid acted, but I'm afraid we haven't seen the send of this.

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