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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 01:34 PM Nov 2013

Are there crimes for which there is no possible rehabilitation?

In your opinion.


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Are there crimes for which there is no possible rehabilitation? (Original Post) el_bryanto Nov 2013 OP
Depends on how one defines "rehabilitation". Scuba Nov 2013 #1
Agreed. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #4
while there might be PEOPLE who are beyond rehabilitation... mike_c Nov 2013 #2
Crimes, no. People, yes. NV Whino Nov 2013 #3
Crimes which could only be perpetrated by people for which medicin has no cure? Certainly. One_Life_To_Give Nov 2013 #5
Depends on the definition of the crime. RC Nov 2013 #6
I see what you are saying - but that may be a different question el_bryanto Nov 2013 #7
There are crimes for which any risk of recidivism is too high XemaSab Nov 2013 #8
I have to say, that I think that is not the right question. Xyzse Nov 2013 #9

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
4. Agreed.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 02:48 PM
Nov 2013

Does rehabilitated mean that they can keep themselves from committing similar crimes or does it mean that they don't want to commit similar crimes anymore? Because if it means the latter, you could probably say that child molesters can't be rehabilitated. Even if they can make themselves not do it anymore, it seems that they still have the urge to do it. They have to be closely monitored, and even with that they still get their hands on child porn or have other things that stimulate them sexually. I don't know if it's cheaper to keep them locked up or to allow them to live in halfway houses, but something must be done to ensure they won't do it again. They tend to be incorrigible.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
2. while there might be PEOPLE who are beyond rehabilitation...
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 02:33 PM
Nov 2013

...I do not accept that any particular crime, in and of itself, reliably indicates the impossibility of rehabilitation.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
5. Crimes which could only be perpetrated by people for which medicin has no cure? Certainly.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 02:54 PM
Nov 2013

It's usually not a single criminal act but taken as a whole. There have been some crimes committed for which the perpetrator could only have been suffering from mental defect for which we have no cure.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
6. Depends on the definition of the crime.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 04:16 PM
Nov 2013

Some of what used to be crimes, are not crimes now because too many people were doing it. (Example - living together) What used to be legal, became illegal because money could be made from busting them and locking them up. (Example - growing weeds) Harm quite often has nothing to do with legality.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
7. I see what you are saying - but that may be a different question
Reply to RC (Reply #6)
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 04:28 PM
Nov 2013

Are some things legally classified as crimes that shouldn't be crimes - we might all answer yes (i certainly would on the pot thing). On the other hand I am more getting at things which are definitely crime and should be crimes - thinks like Murder, Child Abuse and the like.

Bryant

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
8. There are crimes for which any risk of recidivism is too high
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 04:31 PM
Nov 2013

If there's only a 10% chance that Chism is ever going to kill again, that's way too high. If it's a 1% chance, that's way too high.

It's not worth the risk.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
9. I have to say, that I think that is not the right question.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 06:13 PM
Nov 2013

To me, it isn't the crime, it is the person.

Every single crime is done by a host of different motivations.

A person might kill someone and immediately regret it afterwards, where they would strive for redemption.
That is the same for any crime.

Some people can't be rehabilitated, since rehabilitation is something that they genuinely have to want and work toward.

So, to me, it really depends on the person not the crime they have committed.

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