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Are_grits_groceries

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Mon Nov 25, 2013, 08:26 AM Nov 2013

Dear Bibi, Cornyn, Fleischer, and the rest of the usual suspects,

Dear Bibi, Cornyn, Fleischer, and the rest of the usual suspects,

The US AND other nations reached an AGREEMENT with Iran on their nuclear program. This was accomplished through negotiations and nobody was killed in that process. I am sure this disappoints all of you greatly. Your default position is scream and shoot or vice versa.

No matter what is agreed upon, NOBODY is closing up their monitoring programs. None of the principals involved trust each other nor should they. There will still be spying, hacking, HUMINT collection, and programs we haven't ever heard of.

In fact, I would argue there will be more Secret Squirrels skulking around the Middle East doing gawd knows what. The mind reels.

What has changed is the tone of the rhetoric thrown about. It is never a bad thing if people are talking about negotiations rather than how they will destroy some other country. And again I am sure this disappoints you because one of your few tactics is throwing rhetorical firebombs into delicate situations.

So in sum, what has changed? Who really knows? I don't think the Iranians are being straight up but at least they are up. The proof of what has changed remains to be seen.

They are probably pretending to do what we want, and we are pretending we believe them. If we think we can fully know what exactly they are doing where, we are fools.

The status quo will largely remain. Watching, watching, watching, always watching. The Middle East is an unstable region and always will be because of economic questions and the many players involved. Many groups there hate other groups and have for centuries. Good luck controlling that.

In the meantime, I suggest we pretend that the Afghani government can hold it's own and they can pretend it's true. Not one more American soldier should die in that godforsaken land that NOBODY has ever conquered. An open American presence will be a target and an irritant. Bring them home! Forever!

Spy vs Spy will proceed as usual.

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