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tjwash

(8,219 posts)
1. I liked most of them - but the prison rape one is not funny in the least.
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 03:33 PM
Nov 2013

I do not care who it is about. It is really sad that it is accepted by most Americans as not only a routine part of being imprisoned, but as something to joke about as some sort of a twisted deterrent to preventing crime, when pretty much all of the evidence does not support it in the least.





 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
5. It's there and I also don't like it
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:10 AM
Nov 2013

The toon with two men in striped uniforms implies that Zimmerman will be convicted and imprisoned, and then raped in prison by the bigger, stronger guy.

I don't know how many prisons actually used the striped uniforms these days -- I thought blaze orange was becoming common -- but it's an established cartooning convention that those stripes mean prison.

11 Bravo

(23,922 posts)
12. OK, now I see it. I swear, it was not there yesterday when I opened this post.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 10:35 AM
Nov 2013

When I said I didn't see it I didn't mean I didn't get it, I meant that it wasn't there! The cartoon that I can now view is clearly offensive.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
14. Some cartoons take longer to load than others.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 10:39 AM
Nov 2013

I've occasionally started reading the cartoons, only to have others "appear" while I'm doing it. I would have been fine never having seen that one.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
6. I see it, and have the same objection as tjwash and Jim Lane
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:19 AM
Nov 2013

The depiction is explicity sexual, and approval of this as some kind of "just desserts" for Z is implicit.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
8. In a way, I'm glad this cartoon was included
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:29 AM
Nov 2013

If only because it provides an opportunity to show those who are not "seeing it" why this is objectionable and offensive.

I agree with you and I hope the OP author edits to delete it. But its inclusion, for however long it's there, provides a "teachable moment."



11 Bravo

(23,922 posts)
13. pinboy, when I said I didn't "see" it I meant ...
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 10:39 AM
Nov 2013

exactly that ... the cartoon did not appear on my monitor. Yesterday when I initially viewed this post there was a small box with a red x in it. Today, and I can't tell you why, I am able to view the cartoon (and it is clearly offensive).

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
15. Thanks for clearing that up, brother
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 11:09 AM
Nov 2013

I didn't figure you for someone who would miss what is patently obvious. I was going

When I get that X in place of an image, in IE I click on it to capture the url and open that. That usually allows me to see the image there, and in DU when I back-arrow. Most of the time I lose the image on DU when I refresh. But at least I've seen it and know what it is. That even happens sometimes with images I've posted. In that case I usually upload the external site image to my image hosting account and edit my post on DU to substitute that link, and that always works.

Thanks again for the clarification.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
17. When I logged in on my tablet this morning and checked in on this thread,
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:33 PM
Nov 2013

both of the Andy Marlette comics were invisible on my tablet browser, too.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
16. At this point, it's been discussed enough that I think it should stay up.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:29 PM
Nov 2013

It provides, as you say, a teachable moment. The multiple criticisms in this thread are more intelligible if people can see the actual cartoon. In this context, leaving it up won't be taken as an endorsement of prison rape jokes.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
10. re the Zimmerman jail cartoon
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 06:13 AM
Nov 2013

Those of us who find it offensive may express our views directly to the cartoonist and to his publication:

Andy Marlette
Editorial Cartoonist
Pensacola (FL) News Journal

amarlette@pnj.com
850.470.4423
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LuvNewcastle

(16,834 posts)
11. Lots of good toons. Thanks you.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 06:25 AM
Nov 2013

I especially liked the one with Radel's cocaine stash spelling out "Impeach Obama."

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