Pit bull bites off N.Y. 5-year-old's genitals

[XemaSab]

A 5-year-old who wandered into his aunt's bedroom likely faces continuing surgery after her pit bull attacked him, biting off his penis.

The boy, who was visiting his grandmother's apartment for the weekend, had tried to climb into bed with his sleeping 13-year-old aunt and her pet. That's when the protective 6-year-old female named Momma turned on the boy, severing his genitals.

(snip)

Pettiford, who said she works as a teacher, disputes the police account, saying she never told the boy to stay away from the dog because the pit bull lives with Jackson and never has exhibited signs it was dangerous in the six years her daughter has had it.

Pettiford, who has owned a pit bull in the past and has an 11-year-old son, said the younger boy's movements likely made the dog feel threatened. The dog had come to visit on other occasions and she said the family felt comfortable and safe around it.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/25/dog-bite-mutilation/3698559/

[840high]

1. That poor child.

[NYC_SKP]

2. See also:

Last edited Tue Nov 26, 2013, 12:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Family pit kills 2 year old while mom takes bathroom break: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/25/pit-bull-kills-toddler/2113713/

Pack of pits take out 63 year old woman on her walk, rip off arm and scalp: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/10/jogger-killed-dogs/2149843/

Seven pits maul child to death while mom studies for GED: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/17/mom-studying-toddler-mauled/2090905/

[Orrex]

3. The most important thing in a case like this is never ever ever blame the pit bull

Because obviously they're wonderful dogs and couldn't possibly maul anyone to death or tear off their limbs or rip off their faces, and if you suggest otherwise then you're an ignorant, racist, classict, crazy, lying, genocidal, murderous dog hater.

[KurtNYC]

7. She blamed the now neutered child -- "boy's movements likely made the dog feel threatened."

"If Momma Ain't Happy, Ain't Nobody Happy."

[Orrex]

8. That's not blaming the victim, because of course the real victim is the dog

It's just an innocent animal, done wrong by the cruel and irresponsible owner. Pit bulls are angellic family members and would never hurt anyone unless threatened or hungry or frightened or neglected or abused or over-crowded or locked-up or not-secured or approached or looked-at-wrong, and even then the owner is totally to blame and not the dog no sir not the dog.

[KurtNYC]

13. I hope the "nanny dog" will accept my apologies.

In a moment of confusion I thought the maimed child was the victim, forgetting of course about how the dog must feel when it's well deserved sainthood is questioned.

And just in case it can't accept my apology, I will be wearing a steel jock strap.

[JVS]

18. The dog was just a patsy. Notice how in stories like this the dog always gets killed.

God forbid they let the dog live long enough so that we can determine whether to attack happened because the dog was deranged or whether the attack was provoked.

Dead dogs tell no tales and wag no tails.

[KurtNYC]

20. You know, now I am thinking that this dog was Russian because, of course,

in Russia, dog neuters YOU!

[JVS]

21. So, you think it might have been a Siberian Husky instead of a Pit Bull?

[Marrah_G]

26. Huskys can be dangerous too.

I never let young children near mine and I certainly wouldn't have one uncrated at night with a child in the house.

[Scootaloo]

30. Seeing as how they're one of four dogs I've seen seriously harm someone, yes

An afghan hound nearly chewed off my best friend's face when I was seven. A doberman split my nose, requiring reconstructive surgery, and then another one very nearly broke my sister's arm. I saw a husky grab a five year old and run him back and forth through the house when the kid came near the animal's food bowl, ending up with a dislocated arm and broken hip. And a neighbor lost two fingers and most of the use of her hand after her yorkie went on the fritz.

In addition I've seen no shortage of snaps, bites, tackles, and other minor injuries from other dogs; Boston terriers, dalmatians, cocker spaniels, more mutts than I can count, four different chow-chows, a saint bernard, and one idiot's coydog.

I manage to not blame the dogs, because they're animals. And I've noticed most other people manage this basic understanding of the difference between humans and animals, except if the dog has a square head. Then suddenly it's full of malicious agency, a villain with four legs.

[JimDandy]

42. Good lord where do you live...in dog violence hell? n/t

[Scootaloo]

46. Spend enough time around enough animals, and you encounter stuff like this

Especially if you're like me and have the luck of the Irish (which is to say, absolutely no fucking luck whatsoever)

[riderinthestorm]

62. I'm around animals 24/7 as a pro in the business and have not experienced anything like that

In fact of the hundreds of dogs I interact with annually most are strangers and I've never been bit once in 30 years.

Oh and I am an Irish citizen.

Furthermore as a professional trainer (horses but much if this is applicable to dogs) I'd be a fool to ignore breed instincts and propensities. Its about working WITH those instincts to produce maximal results. It would be cruel to try to train some breeds to participate in what we do - they simply are not designed for that work mentally or physically.

Lastly some breeds are not appropriate for every situation/owner. Its foolish to place an OCD oriented energetic border collie with an elderly senior and its not a slam on border collies to acknowledge that's a bad.match.

Some pit bull lines have been bred for aggression. Its a fact. Same thing with schutzhund dobermans etc. Overlooking a breeds history and natural instincts can certainly lead to tragedy.

[Scootaloo]

74. Knowing the animal is definitely important

But dogs are not robots, programmed exclusively to follow their breed history unerringly. Which is what seems like a lot of people are missing in these threads. If dogs are robots unable to deviate from breed history, then we ought to be worrying about several breeds well ahead of pit bulls - bloodhounds and mastiffs come to mind, as both were developed to attack and mangle humans.

All the breed history does, is skew averages in comparison between breeds. On average, an Australian shepherd is more intelligent and more energetic than a pug. On average a terrier is going to be more animal-aggressive than a beagle, and on average sheepdogs and spitz-types are going to be more dog-aggressive than scent hounds or spaniels. There is a broad spectrum of individual variation especially when you're looking at dogs that aren't "breed-certified" (which is the case with pretty much every pit bull you'll ever meet.)

It's the humans in the picture that are the most important factor in a dog's behavior. Let a dog run wild, you get a wild dog. Let a child blunder around a dog unsupervised, something bad could very well happen. Negligent owners and clueless people in general are the biggest factor in dog attacks from any breed (or non-breed, as the case is.)

I agree fully that dogs are not one-size-fits-all for all owners. A demure elderly lady with a fondness for malamutes is a tragedy waiting to happen (and one that has happened in the past, sadly.) But again this comes back to the dog and what it does being hte owner's responsibility. it is up to the human in the equation to know what they're doing, control the situations, and train their animal. The blame does not - cannot - go to the animal, because it's an animal. Extending blame from that animal to every animal with a physical resemblance to it is even more ludicrous.

[riderinthestorm]

83. Agreed on virtually everything you've said

Except I think whst happens on these threads is the entrenched sides just don't hear each other. So they miss the qualifiers etc

( I'm not a usual participant on these)

So your response seems to indicate that you believe the dogs are never to blame in these sorts.of attacks? Ever?

While I'm sure there are some bad owner/pit bull matches out there that account for some of this mayhem my experience indicates that those "tendencies" and instincts are overlooked at our peril. That doesn't mean the breed is a disaster but it does mean in my experience that the dog's instincts share some responsibility in these tragedies. Its a fact that some pit bull lines are naturally more aggressive. Like some doberman lines or mastiffs etc. That doesn't mean I'm extending blame to every animal. Not at all. The fact remains though that every time this happens the pit bull in question was as "gentle as a lamb" til they weren't.

I think that's the instinct part that kicked in and is hard to overcome.

Clydesdales aren't mentally, physically, or instinctually designed to gallop long distances and jump high obstacles. Thoroughbreds are. Each a breed of horses, certainly not robots, but the human factor can't overcome their breeding and instincts. Clydesdales are placid and simply have had generations of breeding that has extinquished that fire in the belly. TBs are bred to be hot.

Are there outliers? Sure.

Anyway its been a pleasure having a calm thoughtful conversation.

Thanks!

[Scootaloo]

92. Never, ever.

I do not believe that any animal can bear "blame." Blame is something that can only be applied to a human being capable of reason. Blaming an animal for something is a lot like shouting at a cloud for blocking the sun.

Yes, there is instinct. But instinct isn't autopilot. A dog's instinct is to take a crap wherever it happens to be when it feels the need. It can be trained otherwise, and most dogs that spend any amount of time indoors are so trained. A dog's instinct is to chase something that runs... unless it is trained otherwise, then it behaves just fine. A dog's instinct is to bark and howl (well, most breeds, archaic and spitz dogs are notable exceptions) in order to communicate with each other and try to communicate with humans - unless they are trained otherwise.

Training overcomes instinct. Your comparison to horses isn't exactly spot-on, because a lot of what you're talking about is simple physical ability; draft horses are just too big to do the stuff a thoroughbred does. Similarly, no one's saying you can train a pug to herd cattle, it just lacks any physical capability for the job. But, you could probably train a pug to herd guinea pigs or something (and yes, that is the cutest image you will have in your head today ), and you could train a draft horse to race (though it wouldn't win, except in an all-draft race perhaps.)

[Katashi_itto]

89. I grew up around dogs, horses, cats you name it and never went through anything

close to what you did, except an arthritic collie that snapped at me when I hugged her to hard as a kid.

[Warren DeMontague]

86. Yes, the old "you shouldn't have aggrivated snookums" crap.

I remember when Dianne Whipple was killed in San Francisco, and the dogs' owners were all indignant about how she "provoked" their sweet pooches into chewing her face off by being in the hallway outside her own apartment.

[Orrex]

87. Seldom have I ever seen two people more vile than the owners of those dogs

No remorse whatsoever, nor any sympathy expressed for the victim or her partner. And if memory serves, they were closely linked to an incarcerated skinhead and/or some kind of dog-mill to produce those horrible animals.

In retrospect, that may be the case that permanently compromised my ability to sympathize the owners of vicious dogs.

[Warren DeMontague]

90. Yeah, me too.

Some sick shit, IIRC.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

4. That dog should be killed and aunt charged

This is ridiculous.

[bobclark86]

11. Yeah! Jail that aunt!

"13-year-old aunt"

Oh, wait...

[blueamy66]

17. Grandmother, not Aunt

nt

[bobclark86]

33. The quote:

"That dog should be killed and aunt charged"

[Pretzel_Warrior]

37. my mistake. I read it wrong and thought adult was the aunt

I am happy to see that the dog was killed and the grandmother was charged.

[BlueJazz]

50. I think we should charge the Aunt anyway...just to be safe.

[blueamy66]

51. misunderstanding

[KamaAina]

35. Dog is dead, grandmother is charged

His grandmother, Marissa Pettiford; and Vernon Jackson, the father of Pettiford's 13-year-old daughter, were charged with having an unlicensed dangerous dog, a misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in jail. Pettiford, Jackson and the boy's mother, whose name is being withheld because her son is a victim, also were charged with allowing a dog to commit a nuisance.

Jackson, 45, who lives in a different apartment in this New York City suburb of 200,000, was ordered held on $15,000 bail Thursday, Yonkers Corporation Counsel Michael Curti said. The dog was euthanized the same day at the city's animal shelter.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

38. good to hear.

[SidDithers]

5. In before 'How do we know it was really a pit bull'...

and the posting of this graphic:


Sid

[Jamaal510]

19. .

[Drale]

52. Its not funny

its 100% true. Look at that story about the "pitbulls" that attacked the kids on the playground. Later that day, the media changed it to Rottweilers and later just dogs. Pitbulls can be dangerous just like any other dog, but the media has decided that the Pitbull should be exterminated so every dog attack was perpetrated by a pitbull. Blame the owner not the dog.

[etherealtruth]

64. Oh for Pete's sake ... are any of those a pit bull?

[baldguy]

84. Because 90% of the "Pit Bulls" in stories like in the OP aren't Pit Bulls.

http://happypitbull.com/basics/what-is-a-pit-bull/





Many shelter dogs mislabeled "pit bulls"



Because of this, any breed identification by the of a "Pit Bull" is suspect. IT'S MOST LIKELY INCORRECT!

Of course, the OP doesn't even try to address the true causes of such incidents: How was the dog trained? How was the interaction between the dog & the child supervised? Was the dog altered or unaltered?

Statistics show the breed doesn't matter. If it did, all the media hype about "dangerous dogs" would be about German Shepherds and Labrador Retrievers:


The absolutely moronic hysteria born out of debased and unrepentant ignorance promoted by the dog haters and on display in this thread leads to equally moronic BSLs:

[Orrex]

88. Because we all know that pit bull owners adhere to the same strict guidelines.

When someone says "I've owned several pit bulls," I'm sure that they specifically and exclusively mean that they have owned several American Pit Bull Terriers or the American Staffordshire Terrier. In short, specificity and precision are only important when it's convenient for pit bull advocates to demand them. Otherwise, to hell with it.


And we all know that Toronto represents the entirety of the North American dog bite statistcal universe.

[scheming daemons]

6. But remember... Pit bulls are just as gentle as every other breed... we're told over and over!

The bottom line is that dogs are bred for certain behaviors and characteristics.

Pit bulls HAVE IT IN THEIR DNA to kill and maim. It can't be trained completely out of them.

This dog was doing what it was bred to do. In that regard, it *IS* humans' fault.

[NYC_SKP]

9. Indeed. The risk is widely known and understood. Owning one is a selfish act.

And having them around children is criminally negligent.

[Drale]

56. Oh really?

31 people were killed by dogs in 2011, half were pitbulls. 41 people were killed by tvs falling on them, 52 died falling from ladders, 110 accidentally hung themselves, and 96 fell off a building. Lets commit genocide on an entire breed of dog because of 16 bad dogs. Pits can be as dangerous as any other breed if not trained correctly and this dog was not socialized correctly. Blame the owner not the dog. O yeah I almost forgot in 2011 its estimated that African Americans were responsible for 52% of all murders, should we blame all African Americans for the actions of those few, is being a friend to an African American a "Selfish act"? 97% of all child molesters are male, is it criminally negligent to have children around men? Your extremely ignorant and your argument is invalid.

[NYC_SKP]

67. Yes, really. But the risk is not exclusive to pits. I never meant to exclude other breeds.

Or even dogs in general, or even cats.

Please read again exactly what I wrote and don't read anything more into it than the fact that it's selfish to own a dangerous animal (unless you know you can control it) and it's criminal to let a child near one (as well as with other breeds and animals).

I did not know that half of cases of dogs killing people were pits.

That's worse than I thought.

The rest of your attempt at making an argument is not particularly convincing.

I never even said that we should destroy the breed so you're pretty out there about this.

[DrDan]

65. exactly! - "criminally negligent"

[RebelOne]

77. Pits are gentle and so are Rottweilers.

I have owned two of each breed and you could not ask for any better behaved dogs.

[bobclark86]

10. Few things that go along with most of these attacks...

1) Lack of parental supervision.
2) Mostly male younger children (you know, who pull tails and such).
3) Untrained un-neutered male dogs with no good socialization.
4) Nobody actually knows what a pit bull is.

Let's swap out 3) in this case with "Untrained female dog who is protective of teenage owner snuck up on while sleeping."

BTW, as far as "breeds" go, you know what breed sends the most to the hospital?
Chihuahuas

[KurtNYC]

14. Chihuahuas don't even make the list

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24436191/Dog-attack-deaths-and-maimings-U-S-Canada-September-1982-to-December-22-2009

How do infants under 2 years of age "pull tails and such" ?

>>Of the total children killed by dogs in 2012, 79% (15) were ages 2-years and younger.<<

[hollysmom]

45. OK, that is interesting,

I was thinking my next dog would be a beagle, but then beagles kill until I read it was because of a leash incidence - dogs don't control what people/kids do with leashes.

Then I see where a border collie is involved in an attack - but it was with other dogs in a group - but my border collie had no interest in being in a group, My mom did yell at me letting my niece sleep with the dog, but from this I can see where it is not the sleeping child, but anyone/thing that enters the room. My border collie only turned threatening when she saw any one hit a child. She seemed to want to be a mom, she loved kids and let them poke her or hit her. Adults not so much.

[KurtNYC]

68. I think in general dogs, like most animals, are very good at reading energy

Dogs can smell aggression and they are keen to perceive nuances of body language. They react quickly in the moment and sometimes the damage done has to do with how fast the other party reacts and protects itself.

I trust my dogs with all children and most other dogs BUT I am still wary and alert to what could happen. Many kids walk around with food in their hand and they can look like they are offering it. Then you have well-meaning people who want your dog to get very excited -- they talk in the high voice, widen their eyes, etc. but expect you to control your dog completely no matter what they have just done to get it hyped up and potentially out of control. Many people want to feed your dog a treat and it is a bad idea IMHO. Every time you feed a dog you are training it to repeat whatever it did in the 5 to 10 seconds leading up to the treat. So for those who want to see your dog go crazy, they are training your dog to go crazy.

[hollysmom]

72. My dog is not allowed to eat a treat unless the person offering it says it is OK

the only food she can eat without permission is in her bowl. And, yes people keep thinking that it is cruel to do that, but people eating and dog eating are different things, My dog is also not allowed to take food off the counter (this is a constant struggle) or go into the dining room. You have to train dogs, they are not good by people spoiling them. I had someone stay with me for a month and every time I turned around she was giving the dog a treat - it is sad when someone feels they need to buy love and she was pushing the treat at the dog without using the key words. Won't be a guest too soon again. I remember when Sadie was a puppy and she walled by a shrimp dish on the coffee table. after 4 hours she could not stand it any more, and snuck a shrimp,. I reached in her mouth and removed it to a chorus of boos - I can't believe people don't train their dogs! But that is probably the cause of most of the problems.

[KurtNYC]

78. It is a challenge for me to strike the balance there. Food is Love in our culture.

I encourage people to see that my dogs interest in them is not about food but about attention, curiosity and real affection. Trying to get them to the idea that once they become an intermitent food source then the primary relationship they lock themselves into is food source.

A dog is one of the only species on earth that will look a human (fellow predator) in the eyes. (cats do also) Every other eye to eye encounter in the natural world between predators of different species is a challenge, a hostile exchange. I would say that not only can you not really 'buy the love' of the dog but when someone just treats the dog in order the keep its attention they preclude the other exchange. They are a slot machine of treats and the dog is an addict.

On the other hand I can see that they do it out of love (and their own hunger to be loved).

My dogs are huge so I need for them to be respectful and not approach any stranger or frail person on whom they smell food in a manner that is in any way physical. It is for their own protection and for their own quality of life. My dogs love people. They don't want a treat nearly as much as they want attention and a greeting. I want them to be well mannered so that they can have more positive encounters with more people. I also don't want them eating things which are outright harmful to them like cheese, grains, garlic, grapes, chocolate, caffeine, tobacco, Chinese dog treats, on and on. we were on the street and a stranger just wiped something out his pocket and gave it to one of my dogs. It took me a second or two to react. It was so something I would never do that it took a second to register. I am much quicker to react now and my hand will go right to my dogs mouth while I tell them "thanks but please don't feed my dog"

But again, I see affection and the quest for affection behind the "treats" that others want to give and I try to keep my reaction in line with that.

[ScreamingMeemie]

73. A Pitbull/Sheltie mix?

Off-topic but how does that happen?

[RebelOne]

80. I own a Chihuahua and she is more vicious than

any of the pit bulls and Rottweilers I have also owned. They all were wimps compared with my Chihuahua.

[EX500rider]

23. "as far as "breeds" go, you know what breed sends the most to the hospital? Chihuahuas"

Really? I'd like to hear about some of these vicious Chihuahua attacks that require hospitalization...

[Orrex]

31. You could stuff a rampaging chihuahua in a shoebox and seal it with a piece of scotch tape

Problem solved.

[B2G]

44. ROTFL!

Great visual!

[blueamy66]

53. LOL

"rampaging Chihuahua"

[RebelOne]

81. Doubtfully. I have one of those little critters.

You could stuff her in a shoebox if you could catch her. They are fast. Believe me, I know. It is impossible to get her if she doesn't want to be caught

[XemaSab]

24. Chihuahuas are little jerks

I was attacked by one when I was 2. It latched on to me right in the armpit and wouldn't let go.

I didn't even need stitches, and it didn't leave a scar.

[Marrah_G]

28. From reading on the breed they say they attach to one or two people

and is often overly protective of them.

I think alot of times people to read obaut breed characteristics before choosing a dog.

[renie408]

34. Seriously? You are seriously blaming the KID??

You are more unwittingly dangerous to Pit Bulls than One Strike laws.

[Vashta Nerada]

12. We got a pope thread and a pit bull thread in the same day.

A twofer!

[LordGlenconner]

43. It's Fetish Tuesday!!!!!!!

[progressoid]

58. Next up, breast feeding at the Olive Garden.

[seabeyond]

15. comfortable, safe, no signs of danger = boys fault. that is one way of putting it

i guess

[JVS]

16. That's horrific!

[LittleBlue]

22. Pit bulls, no more dangerous than any other breed doncha know

Except all those one-offs that keep happening, like hands and genitals being ripped off.

[bvar22]

25. Famous Last Words for Pit Bull owners:

"Gee. He (she) NEVER did anything like this before.
He (She) wouldn't hurt a fly."

[MineralMan]

27. Beagle-Basset Hound Mix Dog Licks 2-Year-Old's Face!

The child then screamed and declared, "Doggie Kissed Me!" Mother collapses in tears of laughter!

That's why I own the dog I own. That is what he does to small children when they pull on his ears.

[blueamy66]

54. Can you post a pic?

I used to have a Basset Hound. The only thing she ever attacked was a bird...which she caught mid-air. Winifred could freaking jump.

Anyway, a pic of your baby please?

[MineralMan]

55. It would be my pleasure. See below:

[blueamy66]

59. What a beauty!!! Very photogenic!

As soon as I get into a "real" house, I'm getting another Basset. And a Jack Russell...cannot wait!

I'm sure that baby isn't spoiled, correct?

[MineralMan]

60. Spoiled. Certainly not!

He's a good sort of dog. We rescued him from a shelter, but they had no idea whether he was good with cats, so we were a bit concerned. He and the cats took to each other quite easily, and now I often see all three of them in the dog bed together, since the weather is getting colder. Here are Dude and our 17 year old tortie:



We also didn't know how he'd be with children. We took him out the next day to meet our neighbor's children. He was excited to see them and ran over toward them. But, just as he got to them, he stopped and stood stock still right in front of them and lowered his head. The children petted him, pulled his ears, and did all the things children do to dogs. He just stood there, wagging his tail as hard as he could. That's when he "kissed" the little 2-year-old. I had him on a very short leash, of course.

Now, all of the children for blocks around know him by name, and yell, "Hi, Dude!" when he's on a walk. He has met them all and looks forward to seeing them. He's just a big, slow-moving old soul.

[blueamy66]

61. It looks like Dude has a very rough life.

Poor baby.

It's awesome that you rescued him.

I'm so very jealous at this moment...

[CBGLuthier]

29. I love the way these idiots defend keeping a dangerous animal around.

Hey everything's fine just don't scare him none or he will bite your dick off. Yeah, responsible pet ownership my ass.

[alcibiades_mystery]

32. It was a nanny dog. It was nannying him.

[KamaAina]

36. They should have named the dog Lorena

[LordGlenconner]

39. Just in time for the holidays

I was beginning to believe we had seen the last of DU's pit bull fetish, at least for this year. Now we'll get a 300 or 400 post thread on the subject.

[XemaSab]

85. Maybe

[sagat]

40. Pits should be bred out of existence.

[LordGlenconner]

41. I'll let you be in charge of that

Sounds kind of hard.

[TwilightGardener]

47. Have no idea why people want these animals. I just don't.

Even if there's only a small chance the dog will snap and bite, it's still too much, because of the tremendous damage it's capable of doing. All breeds of dogs can and will bite if the conditions are there (too much dominance/aggression, fear, food guarding), but most aren't gnawing off entire body parts. I never once feared that my dogs would literally tear off a part of my child. WHY would you want that around?

[riderinthestorm]

63. +1. nt

[DrDan]

48. finally - a horrific pit bull incident handled appropriately

dog euthanized, owners charged.

It is truly unfortunate that this poor child will live with the guardian's lack of judgement for the rest of his life. It is unfair.

[LordGlenconner]

49. So these dogs weren't euthanized after past incidents?

I'm not following the "finally" part of your post.

[DrDan]

57. and owner/guardians charged

I think that is appropriate in this horrific case - don't you?

I cannot remember reading of any recent pit bull incidents where this has happened.

[LordGlenconner]

66. Two minutes and Google yielded this

No precedent was set in this particular instance.


http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/Dog-owner-charged-with-manslaughter-in-girls-death-114666314.html

http://www.dreamindemon.com/2013/09/11/pit-bull-owner-anthony-ruff-charged-dog-viciously-attacks-toddler/

http://news.sky.com/story/1097880/pit-bull-owner-charged-with-murder-of-jogger

[DrDan]

75. good - glad to see appropriate action being taken with these negligent owners - aren't you?

were any of those dogs euthanized? I did a quick scan of the three and did not see that mentioned.

That would be appropriate, don't you think?

[LordGlenconner]

76. Honestly?

It really doesn't matter to me one way or another. That kid's penis isn't coming back whether they charge the grandma or not. And I doubt when he's old enough to know what it's there for it's going to matter to him that she was charged. He'll just want his penis back.

But nice attempt of painting anyone who doesn't agree with you as an ignorant asshat with the "aren't you?" question. Very similar to the "You do want us to win in Iraq don't you?" comments I got from conservatives any time I brought up what a shit show that war was.

DU has a pit bull fetish. That much I do know.

[DrDan]

79. a pit bull mutilates a child and it "doesn't matter to" you one way or another

I think I will waste no more time with this

[LordGlenconner]

91. The N on your helmet stands for "Knowledge"

Apparently, or rather, lack of reading comprehension skills. At NO POINT did I say that I didn't care that the kid's penis was bitten off. What I said was it DOESNT MATTER TO ME if the grandmother is charged at this point because it solves nothing.

Shall I draw you a picture?

And before you reach for the "what about murderers?" false equivalency I'd point out that we know next to nothing about this family. If the grandma is a neglectful, thug, or miscreant, or low life with a lengthy criminal past then perhaps charges are in order.

If grandma is someone who is sweet, kind, loving and otherwise law abiding citizen who happens to have made a really bad fucking choice when it comes to dog ownership, then I'm not sure she and the rest of the family should be forced to suffer any more than they have.

I don't know the answer to that, and I'd wager, neither do you.

Life is not always so black and white.

[DrDan]

93. good try - here is EXACTLY what you said:

"It really doesn't matter to me one way or another. That kid's penis isn't coming back whether they charge the grandma or not."

and this: " . . . then I'm not sure she and the rest of the family should be forced to suffer any more than they have." That is such a TYPICAL pit bull apologist reply. The boy is mutilated and your concern lies with the suffering of the owner/guardian. What absolute crap.

I am done with this ridiculous sub-thread . . .

[LordGlenconner]

94. Again, your reading comprehension skills are lacking

That comment was about the CHARGES. You asked if I cared about CHARGES being filed.

But you knew that already.

At any rate, I'm glad you're done with this as I find dullards to be quite tiresome.

[Vashta Nerada]

69. After giving this some thought, how the hell did the pit bull bite off the boy's genitals?

Was he not wearing any pants?

If that's the case, there may be more serious issues here.

[Lancero]

70. Keyword...

Sleep.

You change out of your normal clothes for pj's that are, generally, made out of a lighter material when you go to sleep.

That said, Pit's come with a set of these things called Teeth. Things that are good for biting into, and tearing, things.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

71. i really wish i had not seen this

[lumpy]

82. Maybe pit bull owners should be required to give their dogs special training classes. It appears

obvious that they can be especially prone to acts of this nature.