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davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 06:57 PM Nov 2013

If you need reminding why you dont go to Fox News...

Take a look at this article.

Yikes!

I had to double-check what year this was written in...


That women prefer part-time work is simply irrefutable. It was true back in 2007, and it’s even true among Ivy League graduates! Study after study, both here and abroad (the majority of women in the UK, Spain and other countries seek some combination of paid work and family work) shows women as a whole (the Sheryl Sandbergs notwithstanding) want multifaceted lives. They want balance.

And there’s only one way to get it: rely on a man’s more linear career goals. Unlike women, a man’s identity is inextricably linked to his paycheck. That’s how most men feel a sense of purpose. Indeed, research shows men see it as their duty to support their families even when their wives make as much money (or more) as they do!

Perhaps that’s because men can’t produce life the way women can—let’s face it: those are some serious shoes to fill—but they can produce the means to make a child’s life secure. As a nation, we dismiss this integral part of masculinity. But that doesn’t make it any less true.

So why not let husbands bring home the bulk of the bacon so women can have the balanced lives they seek? There’s no way to be a wife, a mother and a full-time employee and still create balance. But you can have balance by depending on a husband who works full-time and year-round.


http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/11/22/why-women-still-need-husbands/
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If you need reminding why you dont go to Fox News... (Original Post) davidn3600 Nov 2013 OP
They really, really miss Leave it to Beaver. Scuba Nov 2013 #1
You couldn't even have a new TV show with that TITLE nowadays. Kablooie Nov 2013 #21
Well, of course. How else will she have time to make sure her dress, hair and makeup are perfect... Liberal Veteran Nov 2013 #2
One of these 1950s pieces I read not long ago said all this and more, plus... classof56 Nov 2013 #15
I honestly do not know what to say... redstatebluegirl Nov 2013 #3
Surprisingly, the author is a woman Chemisse Nov 2013 #4
Her aunt is Phyllis Schlafly. Archae Nov 2013 #11
That explains it - I remember Phyllis Schlafly from the 70s - TBF Nov 2013 #16
She's still around, still shooting off her mouth... Archae Nov 2013 #17
She fought hard against the Equal Rights Amendment back in the day davidn3600 Nov 2013 #22
It has been on here at my folks house since yesterday when we got here underpants Nov 2013 #5
Roll back Womens Sufferage for Jeezus blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #6
Men like balance too treestar Nov 2013 #7
Is this the Onion……? Grey Nov 2013 #8
Poe's Law... (n/t) LAGC Nov 2013 #12
Personally, I was a stay at home mom and I SheilaT Nov 2013 #9
I've done both - TBF Nov 2013 #14
I've had a similar role. kag Nov 2013 #18
I really expected something like "rethuglicans invented Thanksgiving" lpbk2713 Nov 2013 #10
Well, I am worthless. Curmudgeoness Nov 2013 #13
This sounds like it was written by North Korean propagandist Politicub Nov 2013 #19
What are these people smoking? Kochroach fumes! Useless in FL Nov 2013 #20
Thanks for a look into their mindset. The dumb is strong with them. 7wo7rees Nov 2013 #23

Kablooie

(18,619 posts)
21. You couldn't even have a new TV show with that TITLE nowadays.
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:29 PM
Nov 2013

Innocent times back then, McCarthy notwithstanding.

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
2. Well, of course. How else will she have time to make sure her dress, hair and makeup are perfect...
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 07:12 PM
Nov 2013

....cook dinner, have coffee ready, and have the house spotless so she can greet her husband at the end of his day?

classof56

(5,376 posts)
15. One of these 1950s pieces I read not long ago said all this and more, plus...
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:53 PM
Nov 2013

she needed to greet hubby in her baby doll jammies.

Good grief!

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
3. I honestly do not know what to say...
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 07:13 PM
Nov 2013

When I took early retirement and decided to stay home I felt useless. My husband sensed it, and put me to work helping write grants, managing his lab and such. I needed something. Even though I had my own money (my retirement) it wasn't enough for me and he sensed the shift in the relationship and helped me fix it by feeling more a partner.

These bozos actually believe women liked it like Leave it to Beaver...what idiots.

Chemisse

(30,807 posts)
4. Surprisingly, the author is a woman
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 07:15 PM
Nov 2013
Suzanne Venker has written extensively about marriage and the family and its intersection with the culture. She is also the founder of Women for Men (WFM), a news and opinion website committed to improving gender relations and to providing much-needed support for the American male.

So she has made a career out of supporting the American male? She's perfect for Fox.

TBF

(32,029 posts)
16. That explains it - I remember Phyllis Schlafly from the 70s -
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:55 PM
Nov 2013

I was a kid then and although my mom usually only worked part-time she really hated Phyllis. She referred to her as "the woman who runs about the country telling everyone else to stay home". Heh.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
22. She fought hard against the Equal Rights Amendment back in the day
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:38 PM
Nov 2013

Claimed women would lose rights by ratifying it and lots of scare tactics.

underpants

(182,724 posts)
5. It has been on here at my folks house since yesterday when we got here
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 07:20 PM
Nov 2013

Here and there but it is their news channel.

Watching I just sit there checking off stories and talking points that have already been refuted or debunked. These are legend and lore on Fox and they are used to substantiate new stories or just rehashed to further drill them into the viewers' head.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
9. Personally, I was a stay at home mom and I
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:14 PM
Nov 2013

loved it. I had various jobs, never a career, and have never quite understood the appeal of spending 40 plus hours per week doing shit for others.

However, I know that my experience isn't everyone's. If you're happy working, then by all means, work.

I must also add that all those years I was constantly infuriated by the lack of support for the working moms out there. Much of the world assumes that all children have a parent full time at home which simply isn't the case. And hasn't been for a couple of generations now. My mom worked most of the years i was growing up, in an era when few moms did so.

Kids aren't better off because mom stays home. They're better off when parents aren't totally stressed out about if there's enough money to pay for the basics, and the workplace and the schools don't act as if the other is the enemy.

TBF

(32,029 posts)
14. I've done both -
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:52 PM
Nov 2013

I had my career in my 20s/early 30s and then retired at 40 when my second child was born.

I've been a career woman without kids, a career woman with a small child, and a stay-at-home mom.

Career woman with small child was definitely the hardest - I always felt overloaded and even if you work you are expected to pick up the slack at home (unless you can afford nannies or similar). I always felt like I was dropping the ball somewhere.

With the other 2 options it has been time-consuming but at least with some down time. The worst part about stay-at-home mom is feeling like you're not contributing an actual paycheck, but for me it is still better than trying to do it all and feeling like you're accomplishing very little.

I think there are a lot of men and women who would like a part-time option if they could afford it. And I very much envy the countries in which you get a year off paid. Then you can stay home that year while they are small and not be worried about losing your job if they are sick, etc... We could definitely use more family-friendly policies overall in this country.

kag

(4,079 posts)
18. I've had a similar role.
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:59 PM
Nov 2013

I quit my job right before my first child was born, and was happy to do it. I always felt I was fortunate that my husband made an income that allowed me to stay home, but I also knew that many (most?) women don't have that choice, and many who do have a choice, choose to work full time.

Because of that I always felt like it was kind of my job to volunteer at school, and be there not just for my kids, but for those who had parents who couldn't spend time at school because they had to--or wanted to--work for an income.

I have two sisters-in-law. One of them worked full time throughout her kids' childhoods, the other worked part-time through most of the young years, and I stayed "home" full time. All three of us felt fulfilled and never felt defensive about our choices, and I have great respect for both of them, and I believe they also respect me and my choices. As it should be.

lpbk2713

(42,750 posts)
10. I really expected something like "rethuglicans invented Thanksgiving"
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:17 PM
Nov 2013



I really would not be surprised.


Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
13. Well, I am worthless.
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:34 PM
Nov 2013

I have a full time job, which is what I want (because it is what I need). I have no husband. I have no man in my life. I have not given life. OMG....do I even exist?

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
19. This sounds like it was written by North Korean propagandist
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:00 PM
Nov 2013

Maybe fox made a new hire?

Seriously, the people who watch fox and believe what they're seeing are batshit crazy.

Useless in FL

(329 posts)
20. What are these people smoking? Kochroach fumes!
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:01 PM
Nov 2013

I just can't believe in my 69 years that people can be fooled into believing this stuff. I am truly saddened that "they" want to perpetrate and dispel these myths.....and the sheeple believe them!

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