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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHave you changed your opinion of George W Bush??
You know, the moron that stole the election of 2000?
And was asleep at the wheel when terrorists attacked the WTC on September 11th, 2001.
And took us to war in Afghanistan and invaded Iraq.
And squandered a surplus that was paying down the national debt.
And gave a huge tax cut to his wealthy benefactors and refused to pay for his programs or his wars with tax money, in the process running up our debt beyond $10 trillion dollars.
And promoted across the board de-regulation that ended up crashing our entire economy just months before he was able to escape Washington.
And left the incoming President a deficit of $1.4 trillion dollars and a stock market in freefall.
And caused many in his own Party to temporarily leave the Party and form the Tea Party.
And went into isolation and became a famous paint-by-number artist.
With all the publicized "failures" of our present President, such as the ACA, have you changed your opinion about George W Bush??
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)randr
(12,409 posts)for not being born in Kenya
madaboutharry
(40,208 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)You seriously think that any Tea Party Republican will ever say something sane again?
They can't! The picked the teabaggers as their voter-base and alienated the rest of the population. If they switch the tune again, neither side will vote for them.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)They could not afford to have the Tea Partiers leave their Party. If you recall, it was not Barack Obama that caused them to desert the Party, it was the huge debt and deficit and the bank bailouts that was the impetus for their desertion. It was only later that they switched to Barack Obama and the death panels as the cause for their disenchantment.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)as their billionaire handlers saw the sequester was going to hammer military spending right along with the social welfare cuts.
They don't care to discuss the debt anymore if military budgets come into play.
niyad
(113,260 posts)actions have cost, not just this country, but the world, I loathe him more and more. every time I see that smirking face, it makes me ill, and angry that he and cheney and company are not in prison where they belong.
davekriss
(4,616 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)Johonny
(20,833 posts)and he paints. How can you compare making the lives of nearly the entire planet worse for a generation to a painting of a dog. Clearly those paintings totally changed my opinion of him!
xulamaude
(847 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)I consider him a bigger freakin' moran with each passing day.
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)TBF
(32,047 posts)I watched his lovely daughter on the Today show yesterday and I have to say apple doesn't fall far from the tree ...
llmart
(15,536 posts)when I hear she's coming on. It still pisses me off to no end that that vapid, entitled brat was given the job when there are young people with real journalism skills who need a job, would actually work to get the job, and contribute something to the show.
Oh, and with regard to her dumbass father, he will always be a stain on our history as far as I'm concerned. I HAVE changed my opinion on Nixon though because of Bush. I would take Nixon anyday over the asswipe, W.
kydo
(2,679 posts)couldn't stand him before still can't stand him.
on point
(2,506 posts)Now I think he's even stupider and more obnoxious than I did when he flew off into the sunset in January of 2009.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)The US was more in debt when he left because of the GOP spending like drunken sailors. He always had his family to bail him out and this time he had Barack Obama to clean up his mess. I did research when he moved to Houston in order to establish residency to run for governor and did not find pleasant information, I decided from the information I was able to find he was not the man for governor of Texas. I voted against him in both governor races and when he ran for president. He still does not admit to his mistakes and this is more reason not to forgive him. Dumb as a post turtle.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Signing the Medicare prescription drug bill. Even though it had problems like the ACA, prior to that Medicare beneficiaries often could not afford prescription drugs which were not covered by Medicare.
The other thing -- he did a nice job ducking the shoes thrown by the Iraqi journalist, although I wish at least one had hit him square in his stupid looking face.
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)I remember thinking he made his daddy look moderate and that caused me to hate his daddy less. But now compared to the current tea partiers, GW seems kind of moderate and that has made me hate him less. It's kind of like hating the Zodiac killer less because the Night Stalker was an even worse serial killer, but I have noticed that my attitudes do change that way.
mokawanis
(4,440 posts)I despise him and Darth Cheney now as much as I did when they were in office.
Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)I would not have dared to imagine that our war of terror would have such bipartisan support. I know that this reads like snark to some, but I'm serious. I would never have thought that Drones and targeted killings would still be an issue in 2013...
underpants
(182,772 posts)NO!
"Houston we have your problem" - Jon Stewart - were the most prophetic words of or time
Tippy
(4,610 posts)lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)I always had the opinion he was below average in intelligence. He was thrust into the
political limelight solely on the hopes that his name recognition would get some votes.
He was the luckiest asshole to ever run for any political office.
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)I kind of feel sorry for the tool. To me, it seems clear that he was a powerless figurehead while Cheney actually ran things. I still remember when Bush was looking for a running mate and Cheney was supposedly helping him. It was kind of funny that the guy leading his VP scouting team finds out that he is the best choice after all.
I don't like the feelers Bush is putting out to try and regain some respect such as his paintings. While I think he was a marionette, he could have and should have come clean.
intaglio
(8,170 posts)that the gynecologists attending his birth discarded the wrong bit.
RichGirl
(4,119 posts)Barely a month and ACA is a failure???? Geez...give it a chance!
I know that in the whole realm of politics, a president has a lot less power than we think he has. I didn't vote for Obama because I thought...wham bam...he'd fix everything. I also believe that real change takes time. I voted for him because I trusted him...trusted his intelligence, kindness, knowledge and felt strongly that he wanted to make things better. I am not disappointed in him. I'm disgusted by the way the right-wing has hindered him at every turn, made a campaign out of making him look bad, etc.
So...George Bush...he got us in a war based on a lie. But sometimes, because of his lack of intelligence, I think he was lied to also. So, I don't know and never wish anyone ill will.
When I was little and hung out with the neighborhood kids everyday of summer....sometimes out of sheer boredom we'd get some dumb kid to eat bugs. That's how I kind of see GWB.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)The ONLY thing I give him credit for is that he has NEVER bashed President Obama. Other than that he made the country a mess so I will always have disdain for him. Do I hate him? Not really because I don't hate anybody.
valerief
(53,235 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)He presided over an unprecedented transfer of wealth from the middle class to the obscenely well to do.
Five years after he left office the situation has not even begin to turn around.
If anything, it's even worse that he had absolutely no idea of what he was doing but allowed his name to be attached to policies put forth by some real crooks. Even war criminals.
When he left office I was content that he was gone. Now I think he belongs in fucking jail.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)The fucker is a pretty decent artist. And he paints dogs of all things. Yet he killed millions of innocent people without blinking an eye, fucked up this country almost beyond recognition and can sleep like a baby at night. It doesn't mesh with my simple view of how things are supposed to work.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)You listen to him when he's being funny and he comes across as a really likable person that you might just sit down and have a funny chat with. He's very likable when he's just kick en back.
But look at the damage he did. All the people who died for nothing.
It is just baffling.
brush
(53,764 posts)he's not a decent artist. Those paints are at the high school art class level and not from the best students.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,833 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)He's still a shining example of a useful idiocy and why it should never, ever, ever be in a position of power.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)But my opinion of him is the same...he's a dummy/sock puppet.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,566 posts)It's gotten worse!
kimbutgar
(21,130 posts)The tea billies are actually calling for somebody to take out the president I never would advocate for bush being killed. There still is some respect due a president. If I ever had a chance to meet President bush I would do it even though I didn't like him because he is the president. Ironically he got selected in 2000 and stole the election in Ohio in 2004 to win that is illegitimate in my mind . President Obama won by big margins in both yet the right wingers say he is an illegal president. Maybe the color of his skin has something to do with their thinking.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I went from thinking he had no talent at all to thinking he has minimal ability.
Paladin
(28,252 posts)JHB
(37,158 posts)...and he hasn't done anything since except display is myopic self-absorption, there really isn't much room for change.
My opinion of his (former) supporters has sunk, though, as they repeatedly demonstrate themselves to be a propagandist's wet-dream of an audience. The ones who swallowed every lie -- including the ones that rewrote what he'd been saying just two or three years before -- and now swallow every bullshit RW claim about Obama that comes down the pike.
Logical
(22,457 posts)cordelia
(2,174 posts)It's easier to hate those bastards more as time goes on and more of the damage they've done to this country comes to light.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)He robbed the taxpayers blind, mortgaged the future of this nation for the next three generations, and turned incredibly wealthy people into obscenely wealthy people.
Mission Accomplished.
JimboBillyBubbaBob
(1,389 posts)but HELL NO!
CBHagman
(16,984 posts)...that ought never have been inflicted on the U.S. and indeed the world, and the results of it will not only last decades but forever. We can't get back the thousands of lives lost.
That said, George W. Bush sounds moderate compared to many of the current GOP elected officials, a fact that ought to terrify any sensible person, regardless of party.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)But it is a new kind of hell watching him get away with it all. The people in Iraq and Afghanistan are still suffering because of his actions but he gets to spend his days relaxing at his ranch and painting pictures of dogs. Makes me re-think this whole karma thing.
libodem
(19,288 posts)A yes/no poll. And put 'HELL TO THE NO' as the only option.
I feel like yelling.
NOT ONLY NO. BUT HELL NO!!!11!!!!
To the Hague with that scum.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)have set our life's time improvements back by decades.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)All I could think was, "You stupid, self-absorbed bitch. You and Whatsisname were in the White House for 8 years, and every fucking thing that retarded chimp did contributed to the hunger problem in America. Now you're after ME to fix the fucking problem your drooling husband and his asshole super-rich warmongering fuckhead friends created?"
UTUSN
(70,683 posts)before, that is, he stole electionS and got to act out his actual deeds, or rather, give his stringpullers their opportunities. The only difference is that I couldn't have imagined what specific forms his dastardliness could take.
burnsei sensei
(1,820 posts)including my own, was rationally based.
I don't believe he was lawfully elected in 2000.
He should have allowed the recount to continue.
Period.
The war in Iraq was a project he and his minions had planned long before he was selected.
He isolated us internationally.
He undermined the American commitment to freedom.
He punished the nation with the Patriot Act, when no one living here was responsible for the 9/11 attacks, NO ONE.
He created areas of ambiguity in American law that allows torture, black sites and Guantanamo.
His neoconservative establishment discontinued use of the old Army Field Manual, which was sufficient and did not allow the use of torture in interrogations.
Frankly, I'm just getting started.
He was illegitimate. A bastard ruler, a bastard executive, and head of a bastard regime.
Period.
DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts).
KansDem
(28,498 posts)After destroying the lives of millions and millions, he will escape justice and die a rich man.
OnionPatch
(6,169 posts)he seems just ever so slightly less batshit crazy after witnessing the Tea Partiers these last few years. At least they shine a light on how he got elected in the first place.
Bluzmann57
(12,336 posts)Well maybe a little. He was worse than even I thought, the way it appears.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Just because our party is continuing in his footsteps does not validate his actions, it invalidates our party's current actions.
Broken_Hero
(59,305 posts)I still think of him as a two bit moron who couldn't even talk, and I bet he barely had the motor power to even lift the lid to take a piss.
The only thing positive I can say about him is that cluster fuck in Florida in 2000 forced me into politics, I saw a simple solution to a simple problem, and the Courts decided our President, not the voters. When the courts decide our President instead of the voters, you know something seriously fucking unrighteous is a foot.
nyquil_man
(1,443 posts)Our country wasted eight years of its life on that man.
I'll believe others have changed their minds when I can find some Bush supporters who will admit to having voted for him.
jschurchin
(1,456 posts)Still a fucking idiot.
ileus
(15,396 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)I hate him with the heat of a thousand suns!
I never understood people talking about his supposed "charisma", either. I loathed him when I first set eyes on him. he always had that "deer in the headlights" look of a person completely clueless and out of his depths.
sakabatou
(42,148 posts)Still a toadying lickspittle.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)I'm still trying to figure out what that is, but W gets credit.
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CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)Still want to see Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, et al., marched into The Hague and tried for their war crimes.
Bastards, all.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Oh..than again, we could probably guess the results. That would be: "Nothing has changed" 98.4%
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Sligo and Roberts are proving to me that elections matter
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)The more we find out about the behind the scenes things regarding the decisions made in his administration, the worse it gets.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Sheri
(310 posts)seriously. i am confused about the OP.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)tavernier
(12,377 posts)You got a conscience?
I thought not.