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Thanks for killing the planet, boomers!The world as we know it is ending, and the indifference by Americans, politicians and mainstream press is maddening
TIM DONOVAN
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If youre already in your mid-50s or later, and youre lucky enough not to reside in any areas that are traditionally prone to hurricanes or flooding, youll miss the worst of our imminent destruction. But for those of us who are younger residents of this fragile orb, who hope to live long, healthy, happy lives well, tough shit.
Unfortunately, the world as we know it is ending, and no one can reasonably hope to avoid the constellation of catastrophic, ecological and social disasters that are all but certain to manifest, exacerbating one anothers horrific, deadly consequences. And yet our politicians cant be bothered to care, a substantial portion of Americans arent convinced that its even happening (despite overwhelming, unimpeachable evidence to the contrary), and the enormity of the issue is downplayed basically everywhere outside the bounds of the largely-ghettoized environmental/green reporting, uniformly marginalized and dismissed by the mainstream press.
Its strange, this deep indifference to the greatest threat the industrialized world has ever faced. Imagine the global response if an asteroid half a mile wide were barreling toward Earth, and scientists were confident that it would strike our planet in 30 or 40 years. Imagine the Gene Roddenberry-esque cooperation and global oneness that would form among Earths peoples. Unfortunately, an apocalyptic meteor threatening our very existence is a pretty apt analogy for the ecological nightmare were confronting, except that in this funhouse-mirror version of reality we like to call the real world, our politicians are sitting on their hands as the asteroid hurtles ever closer.
By the middle of the century, the comfortable, wealthy, relatively-peaceful world as we know it simply wont exist. The consequences of worldwide coastal devastation and the subsequent infrastructure damage from super-storms and storm surges combined with the death of the oceans with ominous consequences beyond our current predictive capabilities will ravage the world, our politics and our peace, preventing even the most insulated peoples and cultures from continuing their fat and happy early-21st-century lifestyles. And unlike every other time such apocalyptic predictions have been levied, these are based on extraordinarily well-researched, peer-reviewed studies and reports from hundreds of the worlds most well-respected scientists in their field.
MORE:
http://www.salon.com/2013/12/02/thanks_for_killing_the_planet_boomers/
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)And then we -ALL- ran off and did our very best to destroy the planet...but in a way that it wouldn't get us.
I suspect it didn't actually go that way.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)warrant46
(2,205 posts)Especially the one where a guy wears a dress and talks about helping the "poor"
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Top 20 countries by Total Fertility Rate:
1 Niger 7.063
2 Somalia 6.339
3 Mali 6.294
4 Afghanistan 6.288
5 Zambia 6.258
6 Uganda 6.149
7 Malawi 5.99
8 Chad 5.981
9 Burkina Faso 5.85
10 DR Congo 5.775
11 East Timor 5.578
12 Tanzania 5.544
13 Nigeria 5.525
14 Angola 5.443
15 Rwanda 5.371
16 Benin 5.287
17 Guinea 5.246
18 Liberia 5.238
19 Yemen 5.2
20 Equatorial Guinea 5.185[/pre]
There are plenty of Islamic countries with low fertility rates:
100 Sri Lanka 2.313
101 Oman 2.309
102 Azerbaijan 2.3
103 Kuwait 2.295
104 Kosovo 2.2893
105 Morocco 2.279
106 Qatar 2.271
107 Algeria 2.264
108 Guyana 2.262
109 El Salvador 2.25 (not Islamic, just included to keep the numerical ordering clear...)
110 Bangladesh 2.245
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_fertility_rate
former9thward
(31,984 posts)It is over half Catholic.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)If I'd jumped from #108 to #110 someone would have complained about that instead. I did say "plenty of..."
On edit: I added a note to El Salvador in the post above.
Joel thakkar
(363 posts)Srilanka is islamic state with 9% of population being muslims?
According to your logic --> Russia, Georgia, India, Israel etc all are Islamic as they have more than 9% of their population as muslims.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)It's a list of nations ranked by TFR. I copied the list. I didn't say all the countries on it were majority Muslim.
The point is that whether or not a nation is mainly Muslim doesn't have fuck-all to do with whether they have high birth rates. There are high-fertility Muslim nations, and low-fertility Muslim nations. All the nations on the bottom of the list are desperately poor, however. That's my point.
Joel thakkar
(363 posts)Ok..so why did you write :
"There are plenty of Islamic countries with low fertility rates"
and included sri-lanka in the below list?
I get your point about "Poor countries" and "high fertility rate". I agree that all (or majority) of the countries with high fertility rate are poor.
I would also add to that : Many poor countries can also have low fertility rate. For example : Bangladesh...fertility rate is 2.2 and we know that it is one of the poorest country in the world.
warrant46
(2,205 posts)That way they will have enough bodies for never ending Banzai Charges </sarcasm>
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)and pillaging the planet since the end of the 19th century.
And we never once lifted a finger to try to stop it.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Newsjock
(11,733 posts)From a "top comment" at the article source:
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)And yet avoids the biggest issue in Global Warming: the economy now relies on the manufacture and sales of disposable products and the fuel to make, power and transport them. A restructuring of the economy of the scale required is not likely to happen until some major crisis point is exceeded -- famine, epidemic disease, nuclear war, etc.
No one of any age group has the power to make the significant changes that will be required to wean us off of cheap fuel and disposable goods.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)So, prejudice includes me and my $95/mo total Austin utility bill, 7,900 miles/yr car-driving, -500 gal/mo water use, purchasing used clothes, $800/mo SS after Medicare deducts? Didn't know the blame game worked that way. I will report to my repentance center tomorrow.
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 3, 2013, 01:19 PM - Edit history (1)
Enjoy sitting in
I did my part - driving to and from work every day. Oil. Pollution. Greenhouse gasses. Contributed to some landfills and water pollution as well. I suspect that
Of course if you are younger than the mid-50's your hands are clean and your soul is free....
Oh. And we apologize profusely for the mess we left at. Woodstock.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)kiva
(4,373 posts)I wanted to live on a planet that didn't have nuclear weapons and atomic testing and that damn greatest generation screwed that up.
I wanted to live in a world with clean air, without the belching smokestacks of industry, and the gilded age robber barons messed up that hope.
I wanted to live near clean rivers, but the textile manufacturers and the mining companies polluted those in the 19th century.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Don't forget the airplanes flying over the house spraying DDT on us when we were kids in the '50's. The Greatest Generation had all those leftover chemicals from WWII and had to use them somehow.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)because at least I got to grow up with a beautiful vision of the world, especially of a fairly unspoiled nature.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Unfortunately, the world as we know it is ending, and no one can reasonably hope to avoid the constellation of catastrophic, ecological and social disasters that are all but certain to manifest, exacerbating one anothers horrific, deadly consequences. And yet our politicians cant be bothered to care, a substantial portion of Americans arent convinced that its even happening (despite overwhelming, unimpeachable evidence to the contrary), and the enormity of the issue is downplayed basically everywhere outside the bounds of the largely-ghettoized environmental/green reporting, uniformly marginalized and dismissed by the mainstream press.
One of the few gems of real truth here(bold), though poisoned by hyperbole(underline).
Its strange, this deep indifference to the greatest threat the industrialized world has ever faced.
I, and many others, would argue that nuclear war was the greatest threat; frankly, even a limited nuclear exchange during the Cold War would have done more damage to this planet than 3 degrees of warming. And that's saying something.
By the middle of the century, the comfortable, wealthy, relatively-peaceful world as we know it simply wont exist.
I'm no rose-colored glasses type optimist, but Donovan is definitely wrong. Unless something like a Yellowstone eruption or Apophis impact occurs(neither of which are impossible, unfortunately), or some sort of extremely unlikely(perhaps forced?) long chain of coincidences manages to occur, then yes, the world as know it will still be here.(and no, that doesn't mean everything will be all hunky dory. It just means that barring any of the above, we won't be going into global Mad Max mode anytime within another couple of centuries, and that's in the unlikely event that AGW *doesn't* get brought under control.)
And unlike every other time such apocalyptic predictions have been levied, these are based on extraordinarily well-researched, peer-reviewed studies and reports from hundreds of the worlds most well-respected scientists in their field.
Not really, to be truthful. Global warming certainly would be no walk in the park, but virtually all of the global doomsday predictions that have come out over the past 20 years or so have been founded on nothing more than half-truths, misinterpretations(deliberate or otherwise) of scientific data, and even outright fearmongering.
Unfortunately, Americans have gained a cynicism when faced with these sorts of dire predictions, suspicious of any and all claims that the world as we know it might be ending. Between the craziness of the late 90s Heavens Gate, Y2K, David Koresh, etc. and the earlier, heavily propagandized warnings of the Red Threat and duck and cover, from the 50s through the 80s, some healthy skepticism about the severity of this crisis by the casual newsreader might be understandable even admirable.
Skepticism concerning the fears of supposedly inevitable "doomsday" scenarios isn't just understandable, but based on actual facts and real evidence.
But its also completely misguided and dangerous.
The same thing could be said about climate doomerism, Tim....and more accurately so.
Elsewhere, apathy runs rampant. According to an oft-cited research paper by Anthony Leiserowitz, a Gallup poll recently found that the environment was the 16th most important issue to Americans today. Even more troubling, among environmental issues, global warming ranked 12 out of 13 just lower than urban sprawl. This apathy exists in spite of poll numbers that show a vast majority of Americans believe in man-made climate change and the requisite dangers that it poses. According to Leiserowitz, since the year 2000 polls have consistently shown that 60-70 percent of people in the U.S. believe that global warming is real and already underway (74 percent), believe that there is a scientific consensus on the reality of climate change (61 percent), and already view climate change as a somewhat to very serious problem (76 percent).
And unfortunately, a large part of this, outside of Koch and co. agitprop, has been due to *constant* fearmongering, including that propagated by the mass media(British readers in particular may remember that James Lovelock once predicted Berlin becoming as hot as Baghdad and the Sahara actually *jumping* the Mediterranean into Italy sometime circa 2004 or so).....and, the sad irony is, this has actually provided plenty of ammunition for those who seek to *stop* combatting of climate change.....using an outlying fringe statement to discredit the whole is a story that's all too commonly seen in history.
Finding real solutions will require global initiatives, and in a world populated by governments that seem incapable of thinking big, its hard to imagine our politicians coming together to make the kind of wholesale changes to our society and economic structure necessary to bring global emissions down to a sustainable level.
This is undoubtedly true, but how are more people going to jump on the boat, as it were, when so many people insist that it's either too late to stop global warming or always pushing the "it's worse than we thought" narrative every other year(regardless of validity)?
In an article for the New Statesman, journalist, activist and all-around badass Naomi Klein highlights recent research by climate scientists Kevin Anderson and Alice Bows. According to Klein, their research shows that our entire economic paradigm is a threat to ecological stability. Working for the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research, Anderson and Bows have published papers suggesting that industrialized nations need to start cutting emissions by 10 percent annually right now if we want to have a 50/50 chance of staving off the worst effects of global warming. (Decades centuries, really of indifference make a certain amount of calamity and pain unavoidable, of course.) The only problem is, cuts this large to emissions have no historical precedent. Klein notes that during the Great Depression, the U.S. decreased carbon pollution at a rate of about 10 percent annually, but this was due to catastrophic economic collapse, which should give you a sense of the enormity of the challenges we face going forward.
You could have picked a better source than Kevin Anderson, TBH....he is one of the "fringe" elements, as it were.
And yet in America, the political challenges we face are significantly more ominous than the requisite practical challenges. There is a substantial faction of this country who hold enormous political power relative to their size, and will see every new storm and flood as further evidence against man-made climate change. Liberals hoping for some Great Awakening about this issue that might lead to meaningful change should consider a recent survey, reported by Adam Corner at the Guardian
Sadly, that is pretty much the truth(and we can all agree just which party is to blame, and it isn't the Democrats....), but it didn't help at all that even now, there is still the occasional article that blows things outta proportion and blames, entirely, *every* new *individual* storm on climate change; in fact, from what we do know, while we are able to look at long term trends, we *can't*, at this time, *conclusively* tell exactly how much of a role that climate change in any one particular event.
This is a fairly stunning revelation: Our income inequality is also a generational inequality.
What does any of this have to do with global warming? When an increasing share of our national wealth is held by an aging demographic minority, our national politics are only more likely to tilt away from confronting the inconvenient truth of our worlds imminent (yet slow moving) destruction. While the AARP spends over $100 million on D.C. lobbyists every year protecting sacred cows like Social Security and Medicare, no comparable institution exists to lobby on behalf of Mmillennials and Gen Z, the demographic groups that will face global warmings worst consequences. Weve been consigned to the sidelines, turned into spectators of the greatest disaster movie ever made. So go ahead: Grab a bag of popcorn and take a seat. The show has just begun.
Indeed, the reality of climate change IS an inconvenient truth. Nobody here will deny that. However, though, we continue to be hindered not just by the remainder of Big Fossil's agitprop but also by paranoiacs & bunglers, no matter how well-meaning, on our side. If we truly want to succeed in any reasonable measure, fear and loathing MUST be trumped by fact & reason, no matter how pessimistic, or optimistic, perhaps, one may be. And then, only then, can we complete the journey.
Thank you for reading this.
That's not average.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Iggo
(47,549 posts)And we'd do it again!
Revanchist
(1,375 posts)and no other country is to blame
The author no doubt will want to cut off our Social Security and Medicare because our entire generation is nothing but a bunch of entitled hippies or some other perjorative.
None of us ever fought in this country's wars or marched to end them. None of us ever joined the Peace Corps or became a public school teacher. Didn't ever get vilified as tree huggers or clean the oil off a dying bird. Surely none of us loaded newspapers and cans into our cars for all those trips to the recycling center until the state finally realized it was an idea whose time had come.
None of us had job after job outsourced, or our pensions stolen and our 401Ks devalued to penny stocks and junk bonds. None of us were foreclosed on. None of us were whipsawed by propaganda from the MSM and other formerly trusted sources.
I want to slap that little punk silly, but instead of resorting to violence or a pity party, let me just point out the author's vast blindness and who it serves: the endless greed of the 1% and the elected officials who serve them rather than serving the common good. Socio-economic class plays a much larger part in our woes than does any generational divide --- and "divide and conquer" still works like a charm.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Touche
I'm listening to the PBS show about folk music from the sixties.
We did care, and we weren't cynical. People stood out and told it and there were major consequences for doing that then.
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)our music was better, that's for damn sure
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)I mean, we had Inna-Gadda-Da-Vida! What could possibly compare to that???
Edited to add: "Harrumph!!!"
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)was hardly the best. I'm thinking The Who, Beatles, Stones, Janis, Jimi, Jethro Tull, Cream, etc
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)There was so much amazing music.
And so much commitment and dedication to the causes of justice and equality on this little blue marble.
hatrack
(59,584 posts)SS and Medicare as "sacred cows" - right-o!
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)none of us worked to make or keep the right to a safe legal hygienic abortion legal, or even the right to contraception legal, not to mention other rights based on sex, sexual orientation, skin color, religious belief or lack of, etc etc etc.
struggle4progress
(118,280 posts)Modern medicine, including antibiotics and vaccines, will produce population growth: world population has nearly doubled since I started paying attention
When there are more people, more food is required: that requires better farming techniques, and pesticides and mass-produced nitrogen fertilizer provide relatively easy ways to increase crop yields
People around the world also want improved standards of living and cheaper products: with current practices, that seems to entail more industrial production and more pollution
Material considerations always produce conflict. And economic forces are enormously powerful, even without any nefarious collusion of business interests
There's no magic bullet here. Individual virtue ("I recycle!" is important -- but it is also completely inadequate. Far-sighted ideas ("Why can't we have this utopia I imagine?" are attractive -- but they're also a lazy cop-out if there no practical path: many people will select alternatives, but only if the alternative really exists. Street activism can educate people -- but only if the activists really know their stuff, and in my experience such activism very often merely salves the activists' own consciences, allowing them to feel good as protesting prophets without simultaneously forcing them to become effective. Political engagement is essential, too -- but it's an uphill climb that currently requires gigantic investments of time and energy for what may seem small gains
The reality is that nobody is bright enough to understand -- let alone solve! -- more than one or two of the multiply interlinked issues that together keep modern industrial civilization rolling towards its collision with its own unsustainability
If you want to make a real difference, you have to pick a small piece of the puzzle and really focus on it, until you know it like your own skin, and you need to meet a lot of other people who work diligently and intelligently on different, but related, issues; you have to set aside your own prejudices and preferences somewhat in favor of asking what is doable now; and you must avoid all facile meaningless abstractions when discussing issues, in favor of explicit material facts: unfortunately, the internet can be less of a help here, and more of a hindrance, than one might think
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers. It's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Most people in rural wooded areas had wood-burning heaters-- pot-belly stoves and fireplaces. Gas and electric central heating was fast replacing coal in many of the more urbanized parts of the country. My grandparents' house, which they bought in 1950, had open-flame gas heaters as well as a fireplace. By the end of the decade, they had installed electric central heating.
cali
(114,904 posts)blaming "the boomers" for everything under the sun has become a cottage industry. I would never, as this idiot INDIVIDUAL little millenial does, blame an entire generation for global climate change. It's a wee bit more complex than that.
the problem isn't generational income inequality. It's a problem of the 1% vs everyone else.
"What does any of this have to do with global warming? When an increasing share of our national wealth is held by an aging demographic minority, our national politics are only more likely to tilt away from confronting the inconvenient truth of our worlds imminent (yet slow moving) destruction. While the AARP spends over $100 million on D.C. lobbyists every year protecting sacred cows like Social Security and Medicare, no comparable institution exists to lobby on behalf of Mmillennials and Gen Z, the demographic groups that will face global warmings worst consequences. Weve been consigned to the sidelines, turned into spectators of the greatest disaster movie ever made.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Something closer to the truth would be this:
Given a species with an evolved limit-defeating brain like ours, living on a planet with a surfeit of combustible carbon and a benign climate, this outcome was utterly unavoidable. It has been in the cards since we first tamed fire, made the first stone tool, yoked the first draft animal, planted and tended the first seed, created the first village, selected the first chief, put up the first water wheel, built the first road, sailed the first boat...
The boomers just happened to be alive when we noticed that the petri dish was half full. Right about when the "Consumption" line crossed the "Carrying Capacity" line in this next graph:
It's not even population on its own we have to worry about, but the product of the number of people times the per capita consumption (I=PAT). If we use "per capita energy consumption" as the proxy for our general average human consumption, there are now the equivalent of 140 billion naked apes chewing away at the planet:
Here is a series of short essays that frame the topic from this perspective:
Carrying Capacity and Overshoot: Another Look
Thermodynamic Footprints
No Really, How Sustainable Are We?
Paradise Lost
cali
(114,904 posts)hatrack
(59,584 posts)In that boomers were those (more or less) in charge when it became very clear as to what we were confronting on climate back in the late 1980s, there's kinda sorta maybe a slice of a piece of a half-assed point here, but it's a bit more complicated than that . . .
justhanginon
(3,290 posts)I was born in '36 so I guess that means I am off the hook!
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... now Timmie, just what the fuck are you going to do to improve the world, beyond whining and pissing and moaning about how "unfair" it is?
I've got a news flash for your punk ass, some of us "boomers" have been fighting this battle against the 1%er shitheels virtually our entire lives.
So Timmie, put on your bigboy pants and DO SOMETHING or just STFU, whiner.
Orrex
(63,203 posts)Those spoiled, entitled parasites!
Rex
(65,616 posts)for a bit and fool themselves. Once the planet realigns itself, we shall see what dogs are left.
djean111
(14,255 posts)What a load of divisive crap.
And what is the author doing, besides whining and painting with a very incorrectly broad brush?
Anyway, none of the Boomers I know were out camping for goods on Thanksgiving.
I believe a more intelligent form of argument would pit the super rich and corporations and the MIC against everybody else.
Anyone who thinks the politicians will do anything is a fool. I don't know what the answer is, but it is NOT to just keep electing people based on a team name and hope things will change. The TPP is, at least, up front about who is in charge. And it ain't politicians, they are just the well-paid footmen.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)designed to pit one generation against the rest. Nevermind that a good portion of us are the ones who run the food banks, the homeless shelters, the medical clinics for the poor, ALL THAT IS BAD IS THE FAULT OF THE BOOMERS!!111!!!!
I'm surprised at Salon. They usually have much more intellectually honest columnists. Missed BIG TIME on this one.
Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)Too bad about the collateral damage but mission accomplished nonetheless.
cali
(114,904 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)who won't help care for their elderly parents.
MuseRider
(34,105 posts)I know my old Boomer ass has never given a shit about anyone else. I got mine baby and am leaving what I don't use to my kids. < cause you just never know
WTH Salon?
My favorite all time argument here on DU was with a 20 something who asked me why the hell I was not out organizing against something or other that Bush** was doing because he wanted to do something but nobody had set anything up. I probably should have been kinder to him.
mindfulNJ
(2,367 posts)"boomers" "busters" "millennials". Just stop already. How about holding the actual people responsible, responsible, instead of painting the entire time period the culprit just happened to be born into. So f*cking simplistic and intellectually lazy.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)The ones who sold us the idea of progress, or those of us who bought it?
kpete
(71,985 posts)ieoeja
(9,748 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)around the country, like there's no tomorrow. My son's friends of rich families have traveled more in their short life than any one baby boomer I know. They talk a lot about the environment and buy organic food/clothes - but close their eyes to the damage Boeing does because that would mean their life of unlimited travel would come to a screeching halt.
Look up in the sky! Its a bird! Its a plane! Yes, its a plane.
On any given day odds are you'll see several contrails, some slowly spreading out to form high, cirrus clouds. Air travel just keeps growingand the atmosphere is starting to notice.
The act of burning kerosene and other aviation fuels to power jet engines and propellers means carbon dioxide emissions, among other types of pollution. And that CO2, plus water vapor and the like is deposited high in the atmosphere, where it contributes most effectively to global warming.
The worlds nations have spent years trying to come up with a way to restrain air travel emissions. And this week the International Civil Aviation Organization, the ICAO, a U.N. body, agreed on a plan to do just thatthat wont take effect until 2020. Hence the flyby in Montreal of a chartered plane trailing the banner: "Can't Spell Procrastination without ICAO."http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=airplane-pollution-needs-to-descend-13-10-06
Newsjock
(11,733 posts)While they're busy "saving the world" with yet another food-delivery Android app, they're jetting off to all these exotic locales, often just on "mileage runs" so they can preserve their "status" with the airline.
As distasteful as I find this, however, I can empathize. As I see it (because I, too, often feel the same way), all this jetting around is going on because they've already conceded that the battle is lost -- that the world is in irrevocable decline, with no hope for the future, if there is a future at all, so they might as well see what they can see of it now before it all goes away and/or becomes out of reach.
Can't say that I haven't thought more than once about walking away from the job and just seeing the world until the cash (and plastic?) runs out, then plunging off the edge of Nordkapp before I become a burden to myself or others.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Hyperbole is not useful when discussing serious topics.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)But you're sounding dismissive of this description of the DIRE mess humans have made of the planet's ability to sustain MOST life for even a few more centuries.
I have only one child and I'm extremely concerned for his quality of life in the next 60+ yrs. It really depresses me. And he's so concerned that he's wisely planned to never have any children.
This is hyperbole??
'Sleepwalking to Extinction': Capitalism and the Destruction of Life and Earth
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/11/15-3
The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars: Dispatches from the Front Lines
By Dr. Michael Mann, Ph.D
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/17/1255763/-The-Hockey-Stick-rides-again?detail=hide
WED NOV 13, 2013
Al Gore: "Civilization might not survive the next 100 years"
Al Gore says we've reached a point where the very survival of our civilization is at risk.
randome
(34,845 posts)And thanks for WWII.
We're all to blame.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]
B Calm
(28,762 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)Boomers are more responsible for cleaning up, rather than making the mess.
Edit - duh, forgot the link.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)I can't believe the OP blaming the Baby Boomer's, that's just stupid!
pintobean
(18,101 posts)was educating some idiots.
(Referring to the author of the article in the OP, not the DUer who posted it.)
Brigid
(17,621 posts)And ecologists will tell you that you can tell by the layers in the silt on the floors of Lake Erie how much progress we have made on reducing pollution. To say that we boomers trashed the planet is ridiculous.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"While the AARP spends over $100 million on D.C. lobbyists every year protecting sacred cows like Social Security and Medicare, no comparable institution exists to lobby on behalf of Mmillennials and Gen Z, the demographic groups that will face global warmings worst consequences."
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)AARP is fighting for these other generations. I think the author is huffing paint.
B2G
(9,766 posts)has probably emitted more carbon during his 30 years on the planet than 10 boomers combined.