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babylonsister

(171,035 posts)
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 06:34 PM Dec 2013

Surprise-Obamacare Now Projected To Cost Hundreds Of Billions Less Than Expected

12/03/2013 @ 9:52AM |5,399 views
Surprise-Obamacare Now Projected To Cost Hundreds Of Billions Less Than Expected



Amidst the dark skies of the Healthcare.gov launch, some daylight may finally be emerging with respect to one of the critical goals of the Affordable Care Act—bending the cost curve of America’s expensive healthcare system.

According to a New York Times report out Tuesday, the Congressional Budget Office has quietly removed hundreds of billions of dollars from the projected costs of Obamacare, primarily the result of an anticipated decrease in the federal government’s contribution to the Medicaid expansion program along with the projected cost of the subsidy payments to those buying private insurance policies on the healthcare exchanges.

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While most economists believe that the lion’s share of the reduction is due to the sluggish economy—making Americans far more careful when it comes to making decisions regarding when or if to spend money on medical care—others believe that some of the plans built into the ACA designed to get people to spend less may actually be working.

Among Obamacare inventions that do appear to be paying off in lower healthcare costs is the government’s refusal to pay hospitals more when patients are re-admitted within 30 days of their initial discharge. Additionally, new plan designs engineered to reward providers for quality of care rather than for quantity of care may well be paying off in terms of lowering the overall cost of care.

According to the Kaiser Family Foundation—widely regarded as an honest, non-partisan broker when it comes to healthcare issues and analysis—the declining increases in the cost of healthcare is 75 percent the result of economic factors and 25 percent a benefit of the cost cutting measures in the ACA that do, in fact, appear to be working.

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/12/03/surprise-obamacare-now-projected-to-cost-hundreds-of-billions-less-than-projected/


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Surprise-Obamacare Now Projected To Cost Hundreds Of Billions Less Than Expected (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2013 OP
This is not a good thing. Laelth Dec 2013 #1
Yep, WI GOP turns back medicaid dollars. Makes Obamacare look less expensive HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #3
It is a good thing. babylonsister Dec 2013 #7
The part that's due to the refusal of Medicaid expansion is a bad thing. pnwmom Dec 2013 #8
I want a pie chart! babylonsister Dec 2013 #10
k&r thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #2
Bad news for republicons GOOD NEWS for Americans! Bam. Cha Dec 2013 #4
This is great news Gothmog Dec 2013 #5
Wonderful-- Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #6
Well, let's roll those savings into other benefit programs!! Thor_MN Dec 2013 #9
Obama lied again!!!! JoePhilly Dec 2013 #11

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
1. This is not a good thing.
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 06:45 PM
Dec 2013

The ACA is costing less because some states are refusing to implement it. The point was to expand access to health care. I'd prefer that all states implement it. I would rather have the ACA cost us a lot more.

-Laelth

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. Yep, WI GOP turns back medicaid dollars. Makes Obamacare look less expensive
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 06:49 PM
Dec 2013

because 83000 childless adults won't be getting any help to pay premiums which, overall, are more expensive in Wiscons because of the way the WiGOP made Wisconsin business friendly for insurance companies.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
8. The part that's due to the refusal of Medicaid expansion is a bad thing.
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 09:16 PM
Dec 2013

And that's a big part, unfortunately.

But we'll "save" even more if the SCOTUS rules out subsidies for people who use the national exchange instead of the state ones.

babylonsister

(171,035 posts)
10. I want a pie chart!
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 09:26 PM
Dec 2013
I'd like to know how big; apparently economic factors also are involved, as are some of the aspects of Obamacare that have already taken hold, like holding hospitals more accountable, etc.

Gothmog

(144,941 posts)
5. This is great news
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 07:17 PM
Dec 2013

The GOP talking point about increasing the deficits was bogus before this but these new facts will help kill this claim

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
6. Wonderful--
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 08:30 PM
Dec 2013

Now maybe they can afford to offer poor people coverage that doesn't include prohibitive deductibles and copays.

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