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Wow, this ToysRUs ad needs to be taken down (Original Post) Iwillnevergiveup Dec 2013 OP
I need a little more before clicking a link warrior1 Dec 2013 #1
Here - marketing a wrong message to kids about environment and climate change Iwillnevergiveup Dec 2013 #4
That was neither the intent nor the message Warpy Dec 2013 #26
They could have easily left that part out Art_from_Ark Dec 2013 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #41
OMG, a toy company is taking the position that TOYS are more fun than school. CBGLuthier Dec 2013 #2
It does send the wrong message. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2013 #7
Lol, lighten up! nt Logical Dec 2013 #19
So does nearly every other commercial ever made... SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #22
More proof that ad agencies are run by idiots. madaboutharry Dec 2013 #3
What else is new? Archae Dec 2013 #9
It's like you can see the test scores dropping. JVS Dec 2013 #5
People learn BEST through play, oddly enough. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #37
My mom saw it and she was very vocal about her disdain for it. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2013 #6
You're a great dad! Iwillnevergiveup Dec 2013 #8
OFFS, it is a cute, fun commercial. Its not anti-ed or anti-science. aikoaiko Dec 2013 #10
I agree. It is a cute ad. Nothing anti-environmental or anti-science in it. n/t RebelOne Dec 2013 #16
What about that scene showing a child yawning when the guy was talking about leaves? AZ Progressive Dec 2013 #17
Yup XemaSab Dec 2013 #18
Oh the horror... a student was depicting yawning. aikoaiko Dec 2013 #27
I didn't think it was that bad. HappyMe Dec 2013 #11
I'm with you. antiquie Dec 2013 #12
Aw, kids go to school ever day and they turn one day into a big fun suprise snooper2 Dec 2013 #13
Haven't seen the ad, lucky me. SheilaT Dec 2013 #14
Taken down? lightcameron Dec 2013 #15
I rarely, any longer, sign petitions nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #20
My god, it is no big deal. Clever. nt Logical Dec 2013 #21
I'm a teacher...I didn't think it was that bad. vaberella Dec 2013 #23
And all these comments from a LIBERAL website? AZ Progressive Dec 2013 #24
Its harmless. aikoaiko Dec 2013 #28
Lol. Real liberals are upset about real issues. Not commercials that say Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #34
Just wanted to say... pipi_k Dec 2013 #38
A petition? Seriously? SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #25
It's anti boring as hell field trips Prism Dec 2013 #29
Exactly!! pipi_k Dec 2013 #39
lol Drunken Irishman Dec 2013 #30
Those poor kids Fla_Democrat Dec 2013 #32
You need to go take a walk or something. It was fun Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #33
i dont really see the anti... actslikeacarrot Dec 2013 #35
Oh, FFS. Hyperbole, much? There is no "climate change and science denial" in that ad. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #36
I wish there was a :unnecessary drama: smiley... Agschmid Dec 2013 #40

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
4. Here - marketing a wrong message to kids about environment and climate change
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 11:29 AM
Dec 2013

"Your anti-science, anti-environment toy ad is disrespectful and should not be aired. Learning about environmental science and playing outside should be celebrated. This commercial insults parents, kids, and educators. Our children will bear the greatest responsibilities to develop solutions to climate change, and they should understand how protecting our forests is part of the picture. At a time when so many families are impacted by carbon pollution and climate change, sending kids a message that environmental science and the outdoors are not important is the wrong message. Please, stop airing this ad. "

Warpy

(111,227 posts)
26. That was neither the intent nor the message
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 04:53 PM
Dec 2013

Instead of being taken on another adult led, good-for-you field trip, the kids were going to be kids in a toy store. Face it, kids are always going to prefer play over "name that leaf."

I was a science geek even as a kid, and I remember all too many field trips that would have been fascinating if the adults had gotten the hell out of the way. Giving the kids a booklet of leaf shapes to fill in and turning them loose in an arboretum, giving the first kid to complete the book correctly a prize (chocolate leaf?) would have been better.

Maybe the real objection to this ad should be portraying naked greed as good.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
31. They could have easily left that part out
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 12:50 AM
Dec 2013

Sure, little kids would rather go to Toys-R-Us than do anything else, including learning in school, but why make it sound like learning about trees and nature is a real drag when it is something very important that all kids should do?

Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #31)

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
2. OMG, a toy company is taking the position that TOYS are more fun than school.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 11:27 AM
Dec 2013

Shocking, simply shocking.

Should we also ban a few hundred episodes of The Simpsons where Bart says more or less the same thing? How far does this banning zeal extend?

I am not one for cheap quotes but I do believe a hearty chorus of "Lighten up, Francis" may be in order.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
22. So does nearly every other commercial ever made...
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 04:26 PM
Dec 2013

I don't see how this is any worse than any other commercial. You are right about society being dumbed down, commercials are part of the reason. But not just this one...

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
37. People learn BEST through play, oddly enough.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 06:18 AM
Dec 2013

I know, one would think that sticking a kid in a one room log cabin with a slate and a piece of chalk, making them memorize bible verses for 8 hours a day, would be the best thing for their brains, but apparently no.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,164 posts)
6. My mom saw it and she was very vocal about her disdain for it.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 11:36 AM
Dec 2013

To the point where she said she would not be shopping there this Christmas season for my kids because of it, and that she'd be taking her business to other stores instead.

At the time, I hadn't seen it and thought she was overreacting a bit.

After seeing it online, however, I do see it as sending the wrong message. Probably not intentional but incredibly short minded by the marketing department. And while it's not enough for me to actually boycott Toys R Us, it does lessen my opinion of them.

Ironically, on Black Friday when people were mobbing stores like Toys R Us, I instead took my girls out to a nearby state park for a nature walk. And I'm happy to say they loved it and didn't want to be anywhere else.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
17. What about that scene showing a child yawning when the guy was talking about leaves?
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 04:19 PM
Dec 2013

BS, its a resonating message to kids that nature is boring and materialism is great.

aikoaiko

(34,165 posts)
27. Oh the horror... a student was depicting yawning.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 05:04 PM
Dec 2013

No, its tapping into a very common childhood experience...namely getting toys is sometimes more fun than an educational experience.

Its just a commercial.
 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
13. Aw, kids go to school ever day and they turn one day into a big fun suprise
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 12:39 PM
Dec 2013

The fucking horror...


THE HORROR I TELL YOU

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
23. I'm a teacher...I didn't think it was that bad.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 04:29 PM
Dec 2013

I'd rather go to Toys'R'Us too...lately I've gotten into buying board games so my students (English language learners) can build up their vocabulary and exercise them in a fun atmosphere. Toys are not bad and could be made educational and the commercial wasn't that awful.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
24. And all these comments from a LIBERAL website?
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 04:32 PM
Dec 2013

Wow, talk about being overrun by either the Third Way or right wing trolls. Kissers of the feet of the god of Capitalism. You can't tell me that propaganda against nature is harmless.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
34. Lol. Real liberals are upset about real issues. Not commercials that say
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:26 AM
Dec 2013

Toy stores are fun. I see a healthy dose of The Puritans made it through to current gene pool.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
38. Just wanted to say...
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 11:24 AM
Dec 2013

that I am a huge nature lover.

I LOVE trees. And wild animals. Butterflies and flowers. Ponds, frogs, fish, etc.

And having said that, I didn't find it to be "propaganda against nature" in any respect.

Had those kids been turned loose in a museum of natural history, with animals and fossils and small scientific experiments they could play with, they would have been thrilled.

And it's not about "kissing the feet of the gods of capitalism".

It's about little kids being thrilled about having the run of a toy store, FGS.

Really...is this what being a "Liberal" has come to? Denying kids the fun of being kids?

As Pink Floyd said in their song, "The Wall"....

Leave those kids alone


PS...I won't sign that petition, and I hope it sinks to the bottom of the toilet, where it belongs.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
25. A petition? Seriously?
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 04:33 PM
Dec 2013

This is what gives Tea Bagging idiots ammo when they say political correctness has gone way to far.

This is a toy commercial. It gives the wrong message. So does damn near every other commercial ever made. A commercial is designed to brainwash you into buying a specific product. There are no good and bad commercials. They are pretty much all bad.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
29. It's anti boring as hell field trips
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 05:05 PM
Dec 2013

I'm a nature lover, go hiking at least once a week or so, and some of those school sponsored nature trips during childhood were absolutely excruciating. And usually for the same reason as depicted in the commercial. Instead of exploring and having fun, the teacher turned it into a glorified homework exercise.

Anti-science?

People are just looking for pointless things to get all worked up about these days. But at least there's a petition. So everyone feels useful, I guess.

Lord.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
39. Exactly!!
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 11:35 AM
Dec 2013
I'm a nature lover, go hiking at least once a week or so, and some of those school sponsored nature trips during childhood were absolutely excruciating. And usually for the same reason as depicted in the commercial. Instead of exploring and having fun, the teacher turned it into a glorified homework exercise.


It's all in the presentation.

Just like, for example, sex. Most adults love it. Some are obsessed with it.

A dry-as-a-fart scientific lecture about the mechanics would no doubt cause 95% of the audience to fall asleep. Or walk out in disgust. Because they're adults and nobody has them trapped on a bus where they can't get away...

Make something interesting enough, and people...especially kids...aren't going to yawn in your face.

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
32. Those poor kids
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:12 AM
Dec 2013

It's heartbreaking to watch. Imagine, being high-jacked from a trip to look at a tree, and being made to go to a toy store. Someone should be facing jail time over this stunt.




actslikeacarrot

(464 posts)
35. i dont really see the anti...
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 05:01 AM
Dec 2013

...science part. One of the toys one of the kids was shown playing with was a telescope. Honestly, I would choose a telescope over naming a leaf any day of the week.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
36. Oh, FFS. Hyperbole, much? There is no "climate change and science denial" in that ad.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 06:14 AM
Dec 2013

It's about kids thinking they're going on a boring field trip.

I like trees as much as anyone, but folks need to get a fucking grip.

And yes, kids should be exposed to nature, too. Preferably in non-boring ways.

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