General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRashida Jones: "2013 Was the Year of the Very Visible Vagina"
The Parks and Recreation star began by pointing out that stripper poles, G-strings, boobs, and a lot of tongue action were all now normal accessories for mainstream pop stars. These artists, she reasons, are all trying to convey the same message: You know you want to have sex with me. Here, take a look at lots of parts of my body.
Rashida, pointing out shes not a prude, loves sex and also grew up on a healthy balance of sexuality in pop stars finds all the in-your-face imagery of today to be homogenous. Every pop star, she writes, interprets sexy the same way: lots of skin, lots of licking of teeth, lots of bending over.
I find this oddly
boring, she continues. Cant I just like a song without having to take an ultrasound tour of some pop stars privates? I consider myself a feminist. I would never point a finger at a woman for her actual sexual behavior, and I think all women have the right to express their desires, she writes. But I will look at women with influencemillionaire women who use their sexiness to make moneyand ask some questions. There is a difference, a key one, between shaming and holding someone accountable.
She also points out that "the poles, the pasties [and] the gyrating" aren't "showing female sexuality; this is showing what it looks like when women sell sex." In her opinion, pop culture has "reached a point of oversaturation." http://www.eonline.com/news/488121/rashida-jones-on-miley-cyrus-rihanna-and-nicki-minaj-2013-was-the-year-of-the-very-visible-vagina
JimboBillyBubbaBob
(1,389 posts)A kind of desensitization going on.
Response to big_dog (Original post)
Warren DeMontague This message was self-deleted by its author.
underpants
(182,281 posts)Btw-I had to google WarrenHaynes but I did NOT hit images... Just in case
Response to underpants (Reply #3)
Warren DeMontague This message was self-deleted by its author.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)She reminds me a bit of Natalie. Old soul in a young body, smokey soulful voice, and didn't need to win Idol/X Factor/Voice/Talent/Crappy Karoke Contest, or strip down and twerk or come from Disney to get noticed. Check out her song "Royals" on youtube...
Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #13)
Warren DeMontague This message was self-deleted by its author.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)when I heard her I asked my son who she was and was shocked to find out she was so young.. The voice is timeless... and her writing shows an unusual maturity for someone her age...
As a guy who has seen his share of crappy talentless hacks achieve great success, and watched incredible singers carve out a career in bar tending, I rejoice when I find someone I can just put up with let alone enjoy
liberalmuse
(18,670 posts)And she's right. Granted, female sexuality has been packaged to sell for centuries, but today's version is bordering on the ridiculous. It's not even sexy unless you are a slobbering ball of testosterone, and I don't think most men are. The women so eager to get ahead by putting their naughty bits out there ought to check out a few Ava Gardner or Lana Turner movies to see how it's really done.
Response to liberalmuse (Reply #5)
Warren DeMontague This message was self-deleted by its author.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)The shock value decreases over time. So Miley is peaking right now. Once she starts going downhill, she'll crash unless she finds some other way to maintain a fan base.
Response to davidn3600 (Reply #21)
Warren DeMontague This message was self-deleted by its author.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Had to put that out there...
On Edit:
Response to stevenleser (Reply #6)
Warren DeMontague This message was self-deleted by its author.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)She refers to FEMALE MAINSTREAM POP STARS. Rihanna, Britney, Miley, Ke$ha, Rita Ora, Lana Del Rey, etc.
Male ANYTHING isn't the point. Female NON-CURRENT stars, even of Pop, aren't the focus.
big_dog
(4,144 posts)but I guess someone is buying the record on itunes
Response to WinkyDink (Reply #7)
Warren DeMontague This message was self-deleted by its author.
big_dog
(4,144 posts)Selena Gomez, Demi Lovato etc. im not so sure
Response to big_dog (Reply #10)
Warren DeMontague This message was self-deleted by its author.
big_dog
(4,144 posts)via music
Response to big_dog (Reply #18)
Warren DeMontague This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to big_dog (Original post)
Name removed Message auto-removed
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)The current pop-tart behaviors (which are actually much the same as they were before... hello!) are, indeed, banal and vulgar and commercial and exploitative.
This is in keeping with the staggering insincerity of contemporary pop-culture. It is worse than it was, but similar.
But she is dead wrong on a couple things.
First... ladies, learn what the hell a vagina is. Thanks. It is sad and pathetic when men call things that are not a vagina a vagina. It is downright inexplicable when women do so. Pop stars display almost everything on God's green Earth EXCEPT their vagina.
Clue: Unless you currently call your buttocks your anus you should be able to figure out what a vagina is and is not.
Second, and more substantively...
Yes. The difference is how embarassed the speaker is to be shaming. Holding someone accountable for how shameful they are by pointing out their shame is shaming.
That formula is always a cover for someone who is embarrassed to say what they really mean. "Nobody supports a woman's right to chose more than me, but..." etc..
If someone wants to shame Rashida Jones for apearing in her undies then they are out of line, even if their shaming is framed as calling for her to be more accountable, to please think of the children, whatever...
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)that women who make such critiques often still feel obliged to declare they aren't prudes and they enjoy sex. As if a woman's opinion is only of value in proportion to her own sexuality and sexual appetite.
Response to MadrasT (Reply #22)
Warren DeMontague This message was self-deleted by its author.