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(12,448 posts)I get so tired of the religious right's victimhood. They're even more whiney this time of year. Merry War on Christmas!
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)K & R & Tweeted!
PEACE!
KansDem
(28,498 posts)...always seem to be "cross" about something.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)of anyone who thinks that the babble is more than a shoddy work of fiction- hell, it is worse than reading L Ron Hubbard sci-fi.
1awake
(1,494 posts)Though I think Fox is disgusting, and most people on the right who claim to be Christians are severely lacking in the knowledge department... yea, I believe in the bible. I'm just not sure I believe in a large number of people who claim the same then act like they have marching orders from the other guy.
stopbush
(24,395 posts)There's nothing particularly nice about the "good guys" in the Bible, either.
1awake
(1,494 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)One might similarly ask which parts you follow and which parts you disregard.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)The myth that we all used to speak the same language and then we built a tall building and God thought it was arrogant so he cursed us with different languages so we couldn't understand each other.
If they ask what language was the original, shrug and say, "It's all Greek to me."
Face it, that's up there with Paul Bunyan.
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)is the basis for denial of the lunar landing. If men landed on the moon w/o being smitten, how tall must Babel have been to threaten Yahweh's abode?
Some may deflect that criticism by claiming Babel was "metaphor", but in actuality it was absolutely and literally believed by primitive, uneducated and terrified people. And still is.
That's Christian faith; the level of individual credulity is just relative. In modern times, the marvels of the natural world are less mystifying, and, to the adult mind, the cycle of life and death and other "mysteries" of the ancient world are not matters to be feared.
1awake
(1,494 posts)but I also look at it in several varying ways. Parts of it as cultural, historical, metaphor, and others directly pertaining to me. Like the other 80+% of the global population who believe in something for whatever reason, I have my reasons to. I respect your right to believe whatever you want, even if that is to believe in nothing at all. I do not think less of you either way.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)I do not think less of you either way.
Doesn't the "good book" adjure followers to "judge not"? I find this one of the biggest challenges for the xtians who "believe" the bible is something more than a collection of historical myths drawn from a rich oral tradition and codified by a wealthy elite to control the masses.
Elaine Pagels, Barbara Walker, and Joseph Campbell helped me understand the bible as an historical document for the pernicious xtian mythology.
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)You believe in an anthology of conflicting myths of dubious provenance.
You accept the validity of these myths, preposterous as they are, on "faith" alone.
"Faith" is just a nicer word for "emotional need". To paraphrase an old drug canard, "Faith is for those that can't handle reality".
1, you may be a really nice person and I'd generally not choose to offend you, but you need to keep that at home, or at the "social club" you attend. Bring it out in public, then expect to be challenged.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)He wrote a book about a failed writer who created his own religion. It sold about as badly as all his other SciFi books.
Then he created his own religion....
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Thanks.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Rozlee
(2,529 posts)Everyday, our work e-mails would be flooded with scriptures of the day and people would contribute religious articles. On government computers! I would grit my teeth because I didn't want to be the one that got singled out for complaining, but I came close. This one nurse got told to put away her rune necklace because it made other personnel "uncomfortable." Other personnel walked around with their crosses around their necks all day and "Smile If You Love Jesus" buttons on their scrubs! I told her to file a religious discrimination complaint, but she said that she was afraid to since people considered her a devil worshipper as it was. I wish my entire family didn't live in Texas and WV. I'd love to move away from the Bible Belt.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)a distance from your family. You could move somewhere you'd rather be. Perhaps family members would follow you, you never know.
1awake
(1,494 posts)so I can relate to the circumstance having witnessed similar situations.
mwb970
(11,358 posts)I anticipate a coming wave of migration from backwards red states to progressive blue states as individuals and families see how much better life is for people living just a few miles away across the state line. The dead-enders who stay behind deserve what they get. If "conservative values" are so great, why are the basket-case states where they are in full effect such nightmares for the people who live there?
hue
(4,949 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)You know, now that we have to rely on cartoons and comedians for our cutting journalism.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)adavid
(140 posts)ancient Egypt, Greece, and Rome were BELIEVED some 4 thousand years ago as, religions.
Today, those religions are considered myth and legend.
It is my opinion that history will repeat itself, and in a couple thousand years, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, and others will also become legend and myth as the others have.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)toby jo
(1,269 posts)I try to tell em at work that folks are not 'stealing' their rights. That if you take people's legitimacy from them in the first place, in order to empower yourself, that all they are doing is demanding it back.
Then you gotta sit back and wait for them to figure out that you just called them a thief by virtue of their actions. Selfish pricks.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)dchill
(38,468 posts)Never and always.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)As soon as religion is no longer useful to create wealth or power for those peddling it, the myths die.
See anyone sacrifice to Zeus lately?
napkinz
(17,199 posts)nt
dchill
(38,468 posts)Nutshell.