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RandySF

(58,696 posts)
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 06:26 PM Dec 2013

Fox Guest Encourages Female Host To Quit, Get Married, Have Babies

Fox News ran a segment entitled “You Do Need A Husband!” on Sunday. Their guest, founder of the site ‘Women for Men’ Suzanne Venker, was on to argue that women are trying too hard to reduce their reliance on men. Her appearance followed up on her article “Why women still need husbands,” published Friday on Fox’s website.

In the piece, Venker argues that women won’t find fulfillment trying to balancing a relationship and family with full-time work. “Financial independence is a great thing,” she writes, “but you can’t take your paycheck to bed with you. And there’s nothing empowering about being beholden to an employer when what you really want is to have a baby. ” She uses this opinion to advocate for women having less of a role in the workforce, and letting men be the breadwinners. “Unlike women,” Venker writes, “a man’s identity is inextricably linked to his paycheck.”

During the segment, hosts Clayton Morris and Tucker Carlson lavished praise on the piece, thanking Venker for writing it and saying “I’m confused why this controversial.” But Fox correspondent Anna Kooiman seemed a little more skeptical of Venker’s argument, pointing out that, “some critics have said it’s a little bit too broad to say men are this way and women are that way.”
Kooiman then got personal with Venker, asking her for “some words of wisdom:”
KOOIMAN: I fit into that category perfectly. I’m single. I’m 29 years old. I’m very career-oriented. What is your advice in just a couple sentences?

VENKER: My advice is, as the years go on and you find that you want, if you do, to get married and settle down, to understand time is going to be your greatest enemy. Not your husband, not men, not the government, not your employers. It’s time, there’s just not enough time in the day to do everything. So if you learn to embrace that side of yourself that isn’t about work — in other words, the nurturing side, the motherhood, all of that — it’s okay to let your husband bring home that full-time income so you can have more of a balanced life. And we should really be thanking men for this, not saying they’re in our way or not doing enough.

Venker has previously argued that, as women become major breadwinners and stop acting like “traditional women,” they are becoming increasingly more annoying and less marriageable to men.


http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/12/08/3035761/need-husband/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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Fox Guest Encourages Female Host To Quit, Get Married, Have Babies (Original Post) RandySF Dec 2013 OP
Venker's aunt is Phyllis Schlafly. Archae Dec 2013 #1
And they are both obviously working treestar Dec 2013 #8
The apple doesn't fall far from the horse's ass, either. nt nyquil_man Dec 2013 #23
Oh puhleeze. It is all part of the Bring Back the 1950's bagger fantasy of a world that never was catbyte Dec 2013 #2
Checking my calendar nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #3
well, you are supposed to "marry UP," doncha know...snag yourself a real up and comer... CTyankee Dec 2013 #5
Ooops, I failed that test nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #6
Been there, done that, didn't work out. Arkansas Granny Dec 2013 #10
I gave my son the only diamond I had, which I inherited from my mother...he was getting CTyankee Dec 2013 #13
Well done. Congratulations on the grandson. Arkansas Granny Dec 2013 #24
Yeah time is YOUR enemy you vapid stooge. Rex Dec 2013 #4
with a paycheck you can buy a bed and a house to put it in treestar Dec 2013 #7
With Venker's comment about “a man’s identity is inextricably linked to his paycheck” TexasTowelie Dec 2013 #9
They're getting a little desperate. Squinch Dec 2013 #11
I think they scream "Patriarchy Aerows Dec 2013 #16
Only the white men who can't keep up with women who make actual life decisions instead of Squinch Dec 2013 #18
Those that cannot scream loud and long, all day every day n/t Aerows Dec 2013 #20
On the bright side, the men who choose those women usually deserve them. Matches made in... Squinch Dec 2013 #21
Awwww shove it shenmue Dec 2013 #12
Interesting Aerows Dec 2013 #14
What happens when you husband loses HIS job and paycheck? HockeyMom Dec 2013 #15
They really do live in another era don't they? Initech Dec 2013 #17
Also, these are probably the first women to judge the poverty of Squinch Dec 2013 #19
Gee, I'd like to see her talk to Ann Coulter like that on camera. Hekate Dec 2013 #22

catbyte

(34,360 posts)
2. Oh puhleeze. It is all part of the Bring Back the 1950's bagger fantasy of a world that never was
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 06:31 PM
Dec 2013

Yeah, we all should be breeders, waiting for a man to take care of us. Shit, of my 4 best friends, 3 of them are the ones employed, their husbands parttimers or unemployed. Who cares?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. Checking my calendar
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 06:35 PM
Dec 2013

even if... she were correct, bear with me for a second... in today's economy, thanks to trickle down, you need TWO incomes to make it in the middle class.

CTyankee

(63,900 posts)
5. well, you are supposed to "marry UP," doncha know...snag yourself a real up and comer...
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 06:50 PM
Dec 2013

or a guy with inherited wealth. Diamonds are a girl's best friend, ya know.

Arkansas Granny

(31,513 posts)
10. Been there, done that, didn't work out.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 07:03 PM
Dec 2013

Wound up raising 4 kids by myself and bought my own damned diamond.

CTyankee

(63,900 posts)
13. I gave my son the only diamond I had, which I inherited from my mother...he was getting
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 08:24 PM
Dec 2013

married and I wanted him to have it for his wife's engagement/wedding ring. I love that it is there, redesigned, on her finger today and I am so proud and happy that he did that. They are happy and they have the most beautiful baby son!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. Yeah time is YOUR enemy you vapid stooge.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 06:40 PM
Dec 2013

Tic toc Venker! Time is looking over your shoulder! SO why is Venker working? Is she, oh Idunno, maybe like her auntie - a huge pile of hypocrite?

There ALWAYS has to be an enemy and a war against SOMETHING with these idiots! I think they LOVE war!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. with a paycheck you can buy a bed and a house to put it in
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 06:53 PM
Dec 2013

And not have that subject to anyone else's whims. Well, except for sexist bosses.

Enough of what men want! So some of them don't want women to be breadwinners? That's "annoying?" too bad!

TexasTowelie

(112,070 posts)
9. With Venker's comment about “a man’s identity is inextricably linked to his paycheck”
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 06:54 PM
Dec 2013

she certainly has become less marriageable to this particular man. I am more than an ATM and take issue with the sexism of that remark.

She is wrong on so many levels.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
16. I think they scream "Patriarchy
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 08:31 PM
Dec 2013

every single moment of the day and of course, white men are delighted by the message.

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
18. Only the white men who can't keep up with women who make actual life decisions instead of
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 08:45 PM
Dec 2013

falling into "roles" someone else prescribes for them.



Squinch

(50,934 posts)
21. On the bright side, the men who choose those women usually deserve them. Matches made in...
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 09:25 PM
Dec 2013

... uh... crazy conservatism hell.

But I do notice that Ms. Schlafly Junior seems to have a job - which includes telling others not to have jobs...... Hmmmmmmm......

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
12. Awwww shove it
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 08:16 PM
Dec 2013

With their shitty attitudes. Why they don't all have horns and carry pitchforks at Fox is beyond me.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
14. Interesting
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 08:28 PM
Dec 2013

"they are becoming increasingly more annoying and less marriageable to men"

Meaning, more self reliant and less marriageable to men that think they are the head of the household and layers of the law in said household. I'd say he's right to be concerned about that if he ever saw a woman's role as not part of any of that. Running a successful household and raising children requires give and take.

If you think you run the household and lay down the law, you had better be ready for a very ugly marriage and divorce. That means one of you can't give and take, is domineering and you need some marriage/couples counseling.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
15. What happens when you husband loses HIS job and paycheck?
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 08:30 PM
Dec 2013

You haven't worked in 5+ years and no longer have a current resume, nobody will hire you either, so you can put food on the table when HE can't? Of course, that will NEVER, EVER happen. Right.

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
19. Also, these are probably the first women to judge the poverty of
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 08:49 PM
Dec 2013

women whose husbands leave them after the women haven't worked in years, and consequently have no way to feed themselves or their children.

Hekate

(90,623 posts)
22. Gee, I'd like to see her talk to Ann Coulter like that on camera.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 09:27 PM
Dec 2013

Ann really needs that sort of "advice."

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