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Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:35 PM Dec 2013

Second Bear found and euthanized. They're going for a third.

There was a bear attack in Central Florida a few weeks back. Traps were set and a 200 pound female was found and euthanized. A second bear, a 200 male, was found and euthanized. Now they're setting up a trap for a third bear.

I think it's obvious that they're culling the herd and I'm not sure why they don't just come out and say it.

Second bear euthanized after caught in trap

Because wildlife officials are not sure they have found the right bear, all three traps will remain in place in the subdivision.

"If we trap another bear, it will also will likely be euthanized," Parker said. "We are trying to be 100 percent certain."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-bear-killed-attack-orlando-20131209,0,7330807.story

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Second Bear found and euthanized. They're going for a third. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 OP
WTF? Sounds like crazy talk! Scuba Dec 2013 #1
This is bullshit...all they need to do is tranquilize and examine... joeybee12 Dec 2013 #2
What do hunters "owe?" What are the bears "taking Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #4
How is tranquilizing and examining going to tell them if they have the correct bear? kestrel91316 Dec 2013 #7
Actually, this is a real thing. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #8
Stop making sense Ida! ConcernedCanuk Dec 2013 #10
DNA testing is not something that can be done on the spot during an exam kestrel91316 Dec 2013 #14
I believe in the article that was covered. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #15
From your link: Ptah Dec 2013 #3
"Closely fits the description"? WTF? hatrack Dec 2013 #5
LOL! - "Large, black, furry, bear-like?" ConcernedCanuk Dec 2013 #9
I stated there was an attack. Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #6
So all they need is... mockmonkey Dec 2013 #11
They already caught baby bear. Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #12
I think killing the bears is kind of fucked up. HappyMe Dec 2013 #13
 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
2. This is bullshit...all they need to do is tranquilize and examine...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:39 PM
Dec 2013

This is really about hunters owing the Department of WIldlife, and the bears are taking what the hunters want...fuck them.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
7. How is tranquilizing and examining going to tell them if they have the correct bear?
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:19 PM
Dec 2013

Do tell. I'll be waiting for your intelligent, well-informed, science-based response.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
8. Actually, this is a real thing.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:29 PM
Dec 2013

Last edited Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:06 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.livescience.com/15569-bear-attack-forensic-investigation-dna-analysis.html

Identifying the Guilty Bear: Forensic Science Heads Into the Woods Wynne Parry, LiveScience Senior Writer | August 15, 2011 12:00pm ET 0 0 0Share0

A violent encounter took place at the end of June, in the wooded area behind a Canadian woman's back porch. Roughly four days later, a police dog found 72-year-old Bernice Evelyn Adolph's body after her daughter became concerned after not hearing from her mother. And the site, about 150 yards (137 meters) from Adolph's home, became the scene of a forensic investigation.

Her body, which bore obvious signs of animal feeding, was found partially covered in pine needles and debris. Shortly afterward, a conservation officer who arrived at the scene behind Adolph's home in the British Columbia town of Lillooet identified the incident as a likely bear attack.

Fatal bear attacks such as this one are rare: You are more likely to die in a lightning strike than to be killed by a bear. But it's summer, the peak season for bear-human conflicts, and reports of serious, sometimes fatal, encounters are making headlines around North America and abroad.

Just as for a violent crime committed by humans, those responding to a fatal or serious bear attack investigate the circumstances, collect evidence and even confirm the perpetrator's identity using DNA left at the scene and taken from the suspect. This step, made possible utilizing advances in genetic techniques, allows investigators to say with greater certainty that a dangerous bear no longer poses a threat, and, in some cases, protect innocent animals.

In Lillooet, conservation officers began collecting evidence and set up snares nearby. After an attack like this, bears will often partially bury their kill and return to feed later, said Rod Olsen, an inspector with the Conservation Officer Service. Meanwhile, they searched nearby woods by helicopter for likely culprits. Ultimately, the investigators found and euthanized five bears, the last on July 9, after the animal showed up in a snare near where Adolph's body was found.

<more at link>


ON EDIT: Bolded the direct answer to the original post.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
14. DNA testing is not something that can be done on the spot during an exam
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 11:46 AM
Dec 2013

on an anesthetized patient. It takes days, if not weeks, to get results.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
15. I believe in the article that was covered.
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 12:34 PM
Dec 2013

Something about keeping them in a holding area while the tests are performed, or using the scat before they are captured.

Ptah

(33,023 posts)
3. From your link:
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:42 PM
Dec 2013
The 200-pound male bear was captured late Sunday and "closely fits the description of the animal"
involved in the Dec. 2 incident that left 54-year-old Susan Chalfant with serious injuries to her face and head,
said Karen Parker, a Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission spokeswoman.

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
6. I stated there was an attack.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:51 PM
Dec 2013

What I don't understand is why there isn't a more thorough way to identify the specific bear given the access to science that we have. i.e. DNA. Because, the way they're going about this, they can kill six more bears and they still can't be sure it's the right one.

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