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onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:13 PM Dec 2013

Spies’ Dragnet Reaches a Playing Field of Elves and Trolls

Spies’ Dragnet Reaches a Playing Field of Elves and Trolls

By MARK MAZZETTI and JUSTIN ELLIOTT
Published: December 9, 2013

Not limiting their activities to the earthly realm, American and British spies have infiltrated the fantasy worlds of World of Warcraft and Second Life, conducting surveillance and scooping up data in the online games played by millions of people across the globe, according to newly disclosed classified documents.

Fearing that terrorist or criminal networks could use the games to communicate secretly, move money or plot attacks, the documents show, intelligence operatives have entered terrain populated by digital avatars that include elves, gnomes and supermodels.

The spies have created make-believe characters to snoop and to try to recruit informers, while also collecting data and contents of communications between players, according to the documents, disclosed by the former National Security Agency contractor Edward J. Snowden. Because militants often rely on features common to video games — fake identities, voice and text chats, a way to conduct financial transactions — American and British intelligence agencies worried that they might be operating there, according to the papers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/10/world/spies-dragnet-reaches-a-playing-field-of-elves-and-trolls.html?hp&_r=0

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Spies’ Dragnet Reaches a Playing Field of Elves and Trolls (Original Post) onpatrol98 Dec 2013 OP
If one tenth of the dangers that the unInteligence Agencies saw was real Savannahmann Dec 2013 #1
I can see how someone could have a blast playing games and getting payed for it. idwiyo Dec 2013 #2
I tried EVE for the first time last week... onpatrol98 Dec 2013 #5
Have been playing it since 2005. Love the game, hate knowing I am an addict. :) idwiyo Dec 2013 #6
Thinking the same thing... onpatrol98 Dec 2013 #8
I'd love to know how to apply! 8 hours immersed in EVE... idwiyo Dec 2013 #10
LOL... onpatrol98 Dec 2013 #11
Oh, nothing really... about $50K. It's for the Glory and Security of Great Britain and US... idwiyo Dec 2013 #12
I suppose that, since no one has called them out and laughed in their faces yet, "Be afraid, Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #3
Many of us have one or more (I have 5) members in our families who are into one or more of the jwirr Dec 2013 #7
It is not clear how useful such research might be. onpatrol98 Dec 2013 #9
No... Really? WOW! Just THINK how useful all that info is... idwiyo Dec 2013 #13
There are some things that studying these games can tell us - about building societies and el_bryanto Dec 2013 #14
A new way to spy... onpatrol98 Dec 2013 #17
Thats it. I am forming a Guild in "Neverwinter" MMOG..."The Elvish Al-Queda" Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #4
You are welcome to join my EVE mercenary company "Holy Terror Sharks with LASER Beams" idwiyo Dec 2013 #15
LOL!!! Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #19
Someone has to protect us from Zoltar the gelatinous cube. n/t hughee99 Dec 2013 #16
I had a sim once offer me "favors" in exchange for dirt on Luigi's perverted sex practices Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #18
 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
1. If one tenth of the dangers that the unInteligence Agencies saw was real
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:19 PM
Dec 2013

None of us would be able to leave our homes. We would be bombarded by falling planes, dirty bombs, CW's, and roving bands of terrorists.

Unfortunately, the people that the unintelligence agencies do manage to scare is the Congress who turn into bobble head dolls every time the dolts demand more money to "protect 'Merica".

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
2. I can see how someone could have a blast playing games and getting payed for it.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:20 PM
Dec 2013

Hmmmm, I wonder if they need "data" collecting in EVE... Hmmmm...

onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
5. I tried EVE for the first time last week...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:31 PM
Dec 2013

I love the look of space in the game. But, to say it has a learning curve is a MASSIVE understatement. I was curious about it, after I heard it was programmed in Python. Plus, I just hadn't tried a space game.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
6. Have been playing it since 2005. Love the game, hate knowing I am an addict. :)
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:41 PM
Dec 2013

Totally agree about learning curve.

onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
8. Thinking the same thing...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:04 PM
Dec 2013

I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing. Are they hiring?



Just kidding...mostly.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
10. I'd love to know how to apply! 8 hours immersed in EVE...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 04:15 PM
Dec 2013

Ummm, yeah Boss... about that hardware stuff... it will help my productivity a lot if I an have a relatively cheap desk like this one:



idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
12. Oh, nothing really... about $50K. It's for the Glory and Security of Great Britain and US...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:35 PM
Dec 2013
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Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
3. I suppose that, since no one has called them out and laughed in their faces yet, "Be afraid,
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:24 PM
Dec 2013

be very afraid" is still effective for at least a sizable minority of our intellectually challenged fellow citizens.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
7. Many of us have one or more (I have 5) members in our families who are into one or more of the
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:50 PM
Dec 2013

games mentioned in the article. We are laughing at it right now. Americans will only accept this idea as "terrorists" if they ignore their own family members are the victims.

onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
9. It is not clear how useful such research might be.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:08 PM
Dec 2013

And what about their research...

"It is not clear how useful such research might be. A group at the Palo Alto Research Center, for example, produced a government-funded study of World of Warcraft that found “younger players and male players preferring competitive, hack-and-slash activities, and older and female players preferring noncombat activities,” such as exploring the virtual world. A group from the nonprofit SRI International, meanwhile, found that players under age 18 often used all capital letters both in chat messages and in their avatar names."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/10/world/spies-dragnet-reaches-a-playing-field-of-elves-and-trolls.html?pagewanted=3&_r=0&hp

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
14. There are some things that studying these games can tell us - about building societies and
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:40 PM
Dec 2013

communities. Some of these studies are pretty interesting.

It's hard to figure out what the NSA gets out of it though.

Bryant

onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
17. A new way to spy...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 06:07 PM
Dec 2013

I can't think of anything beyond just a new way to spy. I wouldn't think you'd need a warrant. What could be more covert? Is that elf that just joined your guild REALLY a noob just looking for someone to PVP with...or something more.



Who knew that people could support their country by being video game spies?



 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
4. Thats it. I am forming a Guild in "Neverwinter" MMOG..."The Elvish Al-Queda"
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:30 PM
Dec 2013

Death to infidels!

So we elves will invade the world of the mundanes!

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
15. You are welcome to join my EVE mercenary company "Holy Terror Sharks with LASER Beams"
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:54 PM
Dec 2013

Our motto: "Bow down before Sharkliban, ye infidels!"

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