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trumad

(41,692 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:26 PM Dec 2013

Apparently I need Jesus

I watched a bit of the Sound of Music the other night and quite frankly thought that Carrie Underwoods acting was pretty bad. She's a great singer but her acting ---eh!

I loved the original with Julie Andrews. Not that was an actor/singer.

Anyhow--- I'm not the only one that didn't like her performance. It was pretty well panned by the critics. One person tweeted that they wish the Nazi's won.

This is how she replied to the critics using Twitter.

Carrie Underwood ✔ @carrieunderwood
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Plain and simple: Mean people need Jesus. They will be in my prayers tonight... 1 Peter 2:1-25


I see---if I had Jesus in my life, I would have liked it----errrr OK.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/09/carrie-underwood-sound-of-music-critics_n_4412146.html

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Apparently I need Jesus (Original Post) trumad Dec 2013 OP
Couldn't reach Julie Andrews notes HockeyMom Dec 2013 #1
They wanted Ann Hathaway form what I hear trumad Dec 2013 #2
The secretary from the Beverly Hillbillies? Ishoutandscream2 Dec 2013 #4
Mrs. Shakespeare? nyquil_man Dec 2013 #12
That was Jane Hathaway Politicalboi Dec 2013 #31
She doesn't have the range either... joeybee12 Dec 2013 #30
Julie Andrews did not do the stage play mainstreetonce Dec 2013 #37
The former Grumman facilites HockeyMom Dec 2013 #39
Wrong. You need Jesus because you hate SNOW HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #3
83 today trumad Dec 2013 #5
LOL!!!!!!!!! HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #6
God made snow & the only JUNK God made HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #8
If you had Jesus in your life you would've had no taste RainDog Dec 2013 #7
I think she means that JC would've held his hands over your ears while she learns Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #9
Julie Andrews was spectacular in the Sound of Music. mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2013 #10
not really about liking it or disliking it hfojvt Dec 2013 #11
A few others. meaculpa2011 Dec 2013 #15
I was getting ready to mention the Maltese Falcon el_bryanto Dec 2013 #18
Heart of Darkness vs. Apocolypse Now? Toss up. n/t meaculpa2011 Dec 2013 #21
most of those I have neither seen nor read hfojvt Dec 2013 #22
King Kong. randome Dec 2013 #19
Clarke's original was a short story... meaculpa2011 Dec 2013 #20
I saw Clockwork Orange hfojvt Dec 2013 #25
GWTW book v GWTW movie... joeybee12 Dec 2013 #23
Yes. meaculpa2011 Dec 2013 #27
You should...spend a few thousand to get that $20! joeybee12 Dec 2013 #29
Thought of another. meaculpa2011 Dec 2013 #43
I have not seen any of those...I should probably rent some of Lubitsch's works...nt joeybee12 Dec 2013 #45
Without a doubt. meaculpa2011 Dec 2013 #47
I have to say that it's unfair... meaculpa2011 Dec 2013 #32
true and some movies are remade over and over hfojvt Dec 2013 #40
I can hear the entire score from the original film in my head, as I was a SOM freak as a kid. Kurovski Dec 2013 #13
Robert Wise made considerable structural changes... meaculpa2011 Dec 2013 #26
"Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind. Rex Dec 2013 #14
I remember getting a Sunday school lesson on honesty and heard el_bryanto Dec 2013 #16
Unless it's something hideous... meaculpa2011 Dec 2013 #24
This had the makings of a disaster all over it... cynatnite Dec 2013 #17
The younger generations don't get subtlety BlueStreak Dec 2013 #28
I like the Brady Bunch movie. trumad Dec 2013 #33
I'll give you that one. :) BlueStreak Dec 2013 #34
I can when it comes to songs hfojvt Dec 2013 #42
a dose of good old time religion might do you some good FatBuddy Dec 2013 #35
LOL ananda Dec 2013 #36
I once got a 7 page email (I printed it out ; was curious) on why I needed Jesus. Solly Mack Dec 2013 #38
You don't need Jesus, you need HBO. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #41
She needs Jesus.....Jesus Alvarez, Top Hollywood Acting Coach FSogol Dec 2013 #44
Playing victim underpants Dec 2013 #46
 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
1. Couldn't reach Julie Andrews notes
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:31 PM
Dec 2013

I am sure they could have found somebody today who could other than an "American Idol".

Believing in Jesus would improve your HEARING? Hey, the Von Trapp family PANNED her too. They must not believe in Jesus either.

Ishoutandscream2

(6,660 posts)
4. The secretary from the Beverly Hillbillies?
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:38 PM
Dec 2013

She was an okay actress, but I don't think she could sing worth a lick.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
30. She doesn't have the range either...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:35 PM
Dec 2013

She was good in les miz, but the music was altered for her...

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
37. Julie Andrews did not do the stage play
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 06:27 PM
Dec 2013

The Broadway play was done by Mary Martin.

Carrie has a better voice than Martin.

It is sad that she is being compared to Andrews.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
39. The former Grumman facilites
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 08:23 PM
Dec 2013

in Bethpage, LI, is about 30 miles from BROADWAY. Hello? They couldn't audition Broadway Musical Actresses for the part of Maria? Maybe most of America would never had heard of her but she certainly would have paid her dues and had the EXPERIENCE of BROADWAY.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
7. If you had Jesus in your life you would've had no taste
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:46 PM
Dec 2013

or, if you had Jesus in your life you couldn't be honest about her performance?

or... this is why I detest the fundie mindset.

She wants to say "fuck you if you didn't like my performance" but she has to drag Jesus into it and pretend like the problem isn't her lack of talent, but others' lack of Jesus.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
9. I think she means that JC would've held his hands over your ears while she learns
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:53 PM
Dec 2013

that she doesn't have a tenth of the talent Julie Andrews has.

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
10. Julie Andrews was spectacular in the Sound of Music.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 03:58 PM
Dec 2013

Carrie Underwood was Carrie Underwood There are just some classics that should only be recreated on high school and college performing arts stages. Classics are supposed to stay classics. When they get updated they are usually on or off Broadway. This was neither.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
11. not really about liking it or disliking it
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 04:04 PM
Dec 2013

it's about being mean about it.

"Therefore, laying aside all MALICE, all DECEIT, hypocrisy, ENVY, and ALL EVIL speaking ..."

Still, has there EVER been a re-make of a classic that lived up to the original?

Maybe

There are several versions of "The Count of Monte Cristo" Having only seen one, I am not sure which is best. Here's a short list of ones I have seen

Cartoon Grinch vs. Jim Carrey - advantage cartoon
Mr. Deeds vs. Adam Sandler - advantage Deeds
Robert Preston (Music Man) vs. Ferris Buehler - advantage Preston
Scooby doo cartoon vs. movie - advantage cartoon
Hitchhiker's guide book vs. movie - advantage book
Spiderman comic vs. movie - advantage comic

but there are some others

Neverending story vs. book - advantage movie
Wizard of Oz vs. Baum - advantage Garland
City on the edge of Forever vs. screenplay - advantage Roddenberry (in your face Harlan Ellison) (okay, that was mean. Sorry, Jesus.)

meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
15. A few others.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 04:46 PM
Dec 2013

The Maltese Falcon, Warren William/Ricardo Cortez versus The Maltese Falcon, Humphrey Bogart. No contest

Godfather the novel versus Godfather the movie. No contest

Casablanca the play, versus Casablanca the movie. No contest.

La Cage Aux Folles the movie, versus The Birdcage the movie. Toss up.

All Quiet on the Western front, novel versus movie. Toss up.

West Side Story the play, versus West Side Story the movie (Robert Wise). Advantage Robert Wise.

Les Mis the play, versus Les Mis the movie. Big advantage Les Mis the play. Sorry, but Russell Crowe and Ann Hathaway can't sing (even though her boss Mr. Drysdale says she can) and the part was way beyond Hugh Jackman's vocal range.

And last but not least, TSOM the play, versus TSOM the movie (Robert Wise). Advantage Robert Wise.

Maltese Falcon and Casablanca are a stretch. Neither of the first two Maltese Falcon versions can regarded as classics and Casablanca, the play, was never produced on stage.




el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
18. I was getting ready to mention the Maltese Falcon
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 04:53 PM
Dec 2013

Which was remade twice actually.

What about Heart of Darkness vs. Apocolypse Now?

Kick Ass the movie was way better than the comic book but just because Mark Millar basically hates everybody (but likes their money).

Bryant

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
22. most of those I have neither seen nor read
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:15 PM
Dec 2013

I have a DVD of Les Mis with some big Irish guy (I think he was in the movie "Taken" cannot remember his name now) but to my disappointment there is no singing in it. Liam Neeson. I think that is the name.

I was not all that impressed with Casablanca. Saw it. Have not bothered to buy it and re-watch it.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
19. King Kong.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 04:55 PM
Dec 2013

2001: A Space Odyssey versus Clarke's original story -advantage film.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
20. Clarke's original was a short story...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:12 PM
Dec 2013

titled, The Sentinel.

After many script differences with Kubrick Clarke decided to write a novel version of 2001, but it was written after the movie was released.

Neither of the King Kong remakes comes close to the original.

Another:

A Clockwork Orange was a great book and a great movie. I'd call this one a toss up.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
25. I saw Clockwork Orange
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:19 PM
Dec 2013

my brother, of all people, read the book (he hates reading). Pauline Kael really ripped on the movie, and also the director. Having seen the movie, I think she has a point.

meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
27. Yes.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:25 PM
Dec 2013

Bonfire of the Vanities and Wiseguy were non-stop enjoyment from start to finish.

The movies, not so much. Bonfire was awful. Goodfellas was a good movie, but not as good as the book.

BTW: I grew up with a lot of those guys from Goodfellas. The Joe Pesci character still owes me $20 from 1967. Maybe I should sue his estate.

meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
43. Thought of another.
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 11:39 AM
Dec 2013

Shop Around the Corner. In the Good Old Summertime. You've Got Mail.

Each one based on a Hungarian play. Each one terrific.

Shop Around the Corner had one very dark element which made the comedy all the more touching.

What would Lubitsch do? I doubt that there are more than a handful of current day Hollywood geniuses who even know who he is.

I heard an interview with Rod Steiger once. A producer in the 90s asked him if he could do a southern accent.

meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
47. Without a doubt.
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 01:19 PM
Dec 2013

Ninotchka, To Be or Not To Be, Shop Around the Corner.

Magical. Heartwarming. Funny.

Not "class-clown" funny like today's comedies.

Maybe I'm getting old, but I can't watch You Can't Take It With You without smiling from start to finish.

"A man goes into a restaurant and asks for coffee without milk. The waiter returns a few minutes later and says: 'We're all out of milk. Will you take your coffee without cream?'"

meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
32. I have to say that it's unfair...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:50 PM
Dec 2013

to compare a live TV version with a movie.

First, The Sound of Music was an all-time great movie and Julie Andrews is a once in a lifetime talent. However, they had the advantages of time, technology and unlimited do-overs. I started my career in live television. When there's a screw-up you forget about it and move on. In the movies, you do do it again until it's right. You can pre-record all the songs and post dub. And in the case of Christopher Plummer, get a real singer to voice the part. In live TV, nope.

Requiem for a Heavyweight, 12 Angry Men and Marty were all teleplays before they were movies and they were all classics.

The movie versions were all better. It's in the nature of the media.

But there is nothing like the adrenaline rush of live TV. I get something like it now with live theater, but it ain't the same as knowing that 20 million viewers are watching.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
40. true and some movies are remade over and over
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 04:03 AM
Dec 2013

by local theater groups.

I was in an orchestra for both The Sound of Music and for The Music Man and each show did three performances.

Doubtless none of our shows were as good as Julie Andrews or Robert Preston and especially the lead trumpet could not match the unnamed and unknown trumpeters in those movies, but I like to think it was entertaining for the people who saw the shows, and I had fun doing it, although I initially did not want to do either of them.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
13. I can hear the entire score from the original film in my head, as I was a SOM freak as a kid.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 04:28 PM
Dec 2013

I heard a clip of Underwood and she sounded like a screeching three-way fender-bender by comparison.

It is what it is.

meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
26. Robert Wise made considerable structural changes...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:21 PM
Dec 2013

to The Sound of Music, as well as West Side Story.

In both cases the movies outshone the stage versions.

And yes, I'm old enough to have seen all versions.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. "Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 04:28 PM
Dec 2013

Wow, I guess she took it personally!

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
16. I remember getting a Sunday school lesson on honesty and heard
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 04:51 PM
Dec 2013

the old chestnet "What if your friend is going out and he asks you how he looks? He looks like crap but you don't want to hurt his feelings."

The answer was apparently that if you have Christ in your heart you will see everybody as beautiful. I didn't find that a very satisfying answer (although I am a Christian).

Bryant

meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
24. Unless it's something hideous...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:16 PM
Dec 2013

that can be corrected, a simple "you look fine" is perfectly acceptable.

Most opinions on these matters are merely personal preference and not worth hurting a friend.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
28. The younger generations don't get subtlety
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:29 PM
Dec 2013

None of these remakes ever work because the actors just don't have any depth.

"Addams Family" Nice try. Worth watching, but not even close.

"Get Smart" Horrible. Don't even try. Don Adams owned that character.

"Mission Impossible" Puke

I can't think of any remake that was anywhere close to the magic of the original.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
42. I can when it comes to songs
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 04:52 AM
Dec 2013

I hear many original versions and think "thank God, they did a remake" but when I was hearing them at the time, I had no clue that they were remakes.

I like the movie "School of Rock" and in basic plot outline, that movie is a modern version of "The Music Man"

I like "Hook" which was a new spin on Peter Pan.

The 1978 Superman was not the first. Maltin mentions a 1951 film.

Still, why not do a new story, rather than glomming onto the fans of an older story? That's why though, because of the pre-existing fan base who can mostly be outraged at what you did to one of their beloved favorites.

ananda

(28,828 posts)
36. LOL
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 06:12 PM
Dec 2013

What if you already have Jesus and you still don't appreciate her lousy performance?

Maybe she should go to church and sing there for Jesus. She can believe that he
would appreciate it for sure.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
38. I once got a 7 page email (I printed it out ; was curious) on why I needed Jesus.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 06:35 PM
Dec 2013

Underwood is a lightweight.

underpants

(182,548 posts)
46. Playing victim
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 12:46 PM
Dec 2013

No one liked her performance. We watched on tape this weekend and I, no theater expert, saw what all the reviews said -- she can sing but she can't act. Stage is very difficult and she has no experience. I read that the actress who played her female counter actually played Maria on Broadway but they needed a STAR and the got huge numbers.

Btw Laura Benanti played Elsa and is much more talented and better looking than ms. American Idol.

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