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Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 06:40 PM Dec 2013

Don’t Fall For the Salvation Army’s PR Spin! They’re Still Super-Antigay

It’s that time of year again when you get annoyed by the sight of bell-ringers representing an organization that hates you. Yes, it’s the annual appearance of the Salvation Army, and they’re hoping to trick you into thinking that they’ve turned over a new leaf. Well, they haven’t.

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•It says right on their site: “Marriage is by definition heterosexual in nature. Scripture speaks only of marriage between a man and a woman and allows no same-sex unions that involve sexual intercourse.”
•Also: “Scripture forbids sexual intimacy between members of the same sex. The Salvation Army believes, therefore, that Christians whose sexual orientation is primarily or exclusively same-sex are called upon to embrace celibacy as a way of life. There is no scriptural support for same-sex unions as equal to, or as an alternative to, heterosexual marriage.”
•The Salvation Army refused to provide health benefits to domestic partners, explaining, “we now confirm adherence to biblical principles concerning marriage and the family.”
•The organization refers people to abusive ex-gay ministries.
•The Southern and Central regions exclude LGBTs from their nondiscrimination policies.
•They threatened to pull out of New York rather than offer benefits to LGBT employees.



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Full story here: http://www.queerty.com/dont-fall-for-the-salvation-armys-pr-spin-theyre-still-super-antigay-20131209/#ixzz2n1JGuxF1


ETA: If you feel the need to drop something in their buckets, I suggest...

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Don’t Fall For the Salvation Army’s PR Spin! They’re Still Super-Antigay (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 OP
They would still help you if you were gay. badtoworse Dec 2013 #1
So? I don't donate to bigots. n/t BeeBee Dec 2013 #2
I have no desire to be "cured" of my homosexuality. Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #3
Screw the hateful bastards - they help you if you believe what they want you to. we can do it Dec 2013 #4
I don't need anyone to pray away the Gay in me. William769 Dec 2013 #6
I confess, I did drop something in their bucket yesterday when I was grocery shopping. William769 Dec 2013 #5
My only personal experience with the Salvation Army Silver Swan Dec 2013 #7
Though I doubt this will be of value to you, others may find value in it... Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #8
Well there you go, doubters. AuntFester Dec 2013 #9

William769

(55,144 posts)
5. I confess, I did drop something in their bucket yesterday when I was grocery shopping.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 10:52 PM
Dec 2013

It was a note saying this Gay man only donates to charities that do not judge. I keep a couple of notes in my pocket this time of the year for this very reason.

Silver Swan

(1,110 posts)
7. My only personal experience with the Salvation Army
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 12:24 AM
Dec 2013

was as a student nurse many years ago. I did a five week clinical experience in community nursing at a Salvation Army alcohol rehabilitation facility.

There were gay clients in this program, and they were treated the same as the others. While the SA may disapprove of homosexuality, I would need more evidence to believe that they discriminate in the services they provide.

Behind the Aegis

(53,944 posts)
8. Though I doubt this will be of value to you, others may find value in it...
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 12:32 AM
Dec 2013
4. The Salvation Army
If those ringing bells every holiday season weren't enough to make you not want to donate, this will.
You'd think as a charitable organization The Salvation Army would be all about charity. However, that's not exactly the case.

"The Salvation Army has a history of active discrimination against gays and lesbians. While you might think you're helping the hungry and homeless by dropping a few dollars in the bright red buckets, not everyone can share in the donations," Bil Browning notes on The Bilerico Project. "The organization also has a record of actively lobbying governments worldwide for anti-gay policies — including an attempt to make consensual gay sex illegal."

If that doesn't make you feel uneasy, then how about the fact that they believe gays need to be put to death?

Major Andrew Craibe, a Salvation Army Media Relations Director, went on public radio hosted by journalist Serena Ryan, to discuss a recent call by LGBTQ parents for a boycott of the nonprofit for its anti-gay policies and beliefs.

Ryan questioned Craibe about Salvation Story: Salvationist Handbook of Doctrine, the manual used to train Salvation Army "soldiers" and members. Several chapters refer to the sin of homosexuality, including a section that cites Romans 1:18-32, which includes a admonition that homosexuals "deserved to die."


Ryan: According to the Salvation Army gay parents deserve death. How do you respond to that, as part of your doctrine?
Craibe: Well, that’s a part of our belief system.

Ryan: So they should die.

Craibe: You know, we have an alignment to the Scriptures, but that's our belief.



Yes, a human being, in 2013, thinks another human being should die simply because they're gay. Want to donate to a company that isn't using its money to support the anti-gay ideology? Then hit up the American Red Cross and give them some blood or your coins.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/anti-gay-companies_n_4110344.html
 

AuntFester

(57 posts)
9. Well there you go, doubters.
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 12:56 AM
Dec 2013

How much more must you know about this group of homophobes?

Ryan: According to the Salvation Army gay parents deserve death. How do you respond to that, as part of your doctrine?
Craibe: Well, that’s a part of our belief system.

Ryan: So they should die.

Craibe: You know, we have an alignment to the Scriptures, but that's our belief.
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