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woodsprite

(11,913 posts)
2. My son is in 8th grade, he has only had 1 semester of gym
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 09:45 AM
Dec 2013

since starting 6th grade. They share "specials" teachers with other schools now, so the school has 1600 kids, 1 half time gym teacher. I think my son will rotate in for 1 more semester in February. If not, he'll get tech ed (what used to be called "shop class&quot . Out of his 3 yrs, he also has only had 1 computers class -- and that was without any keyboarding instruction.

I can remember back when I was in school, we had 60 min. of gym 2 days a week, a 30-min recess after lunch, and (because of coordination issues and lack of strength upper body strength) I was pulled out for "special gym" 3 mornings a week for 45min each. Now there is no special gym, and in elementary school, my kids only had 20 min recess. In middle school they have no recess.

Sometimes I wish for the old days again....

Silent3

(15,206 posts)
3. Why not transfer some of the budget for team sports, that aren't for everyone...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 09:50 AM
Dec 2013

...to physical education that is for everyone? Exercise that's about improving health and fitness, not about humiliating the kids who aren't as good as the others?

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
9. Because those team sports aren't fully funded anyway.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:01 PM
Dec 2013

They are subsidized by parents and the local community.

My students got an increase in PE this year, which we'd been working hard and long (years) to achieve. They get PE 4/5 days a week. I'm glad. I'd like to see them get PE every day, and get a full hour, not the 40 minutes they currently get.

Silent3

(15,206 posts)
10. It depends on the school district...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:06 PM
Dec 2013

...but it plenty of places, a lot of tax payer dollars go into team sports, whether or not more subsidies are thrown in in addition to that tax payer support.

http://m.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/10/the-case-against-high-school-sports/309447/

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
12. Oh, some tax dollars are at work.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:16 PM
Dec 2013

That's true. Not enough to fully fund other PE for everyone who doesn't engage in sports, though. And, in many areas, cutting those sports programs would result in an outcry heard around the world. Many of our parents won't show up for parent conferences, don't support academic learning or academic programs, but obsessively support sports; some only send their kids to school for the sports.

That sounds like an exaggeration, but it's true. It's true where I teach, where plenty of parents periodically "home school" their kids, enrolling and withdrawing them like a revolving door, sending them back when they can't manage them or during a particular sports "season," and taking them home to protect them against too much academia between seasons.

If it weren't for sports seasons, these kids wouldn't get any education at all.

canoeist52

(2,282 posts)
4. I wish they had a half-hour of Yoga or straight up cardio training instead of gym class games.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:03 AM
Dec 2013

My daughter's aggie high school used to give the kids the alternative to walk the paths around the woods and fields for gum class a few years ago. Was very popular. High school gym class was a joke when I had it in the 70's The only time we ever broke a sweat was when we were forced to do square-dancing.

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
7. stretching, cardio, strength training - would be so much more beneficial for all students than..
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:11 AM
Dec 2013

.....the billions spent on fancy stadiums and expensive team coaches for major sports. I'm not against team sports, but there should be a better balance in the time and money spent on "sports".

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
5. Not only gym class, but recess!
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:14 AM
Dec 2013

You can't keep kids locked inside all day. They'll never learn that way.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
6. I hated gym class in junior high
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:20 AM
Dec 2013

Hated, hated, hated it. It was taught by coaches who favored jocks and looked the other way when there was bullying.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
13. I couldn't stand it. 55 minutes to show up, "dress out", run out to the PE area,
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:47 PM
Dec 2013

do about a half-hour's worth of sit-ups, push-ups, pull-ups, parallel bars, running the track, touch football (well, it was supposed to be "touch&quot , softball, basketball, or whatever the sadistic SOB had planned for that day, run back inside, take a shower, get dressed, try to retrieve my jockstrap from whoever stole it that day, and try to make it to my next class.

I prayed for rain every day, when we'd just get to sit in the gym and watch the 47th showing of "You and Your Penis" or something equally educational.

It was about that time in my development that I discovered that I had a knack for forging my parents' signature on "please excuse ***** from PhysEd today" notes.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
14. Same here. We had gym class every day and it didn't help a bit for anybody but jocks
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 02:01 PM
Dec 2013

Only very later did they shift from just pure spectator type sports to give us a choice to a variety of fitness methods. Football, volleyball, basketball was pure hell to us nonathletic types in a clique-ish jock-loving school. PE class was also bully heaven: While the coaches didn't tolerate it at all when they saw it ( they'd come down hard and heavy on a bully ) they could be everywhere and there was a lot of "maiming" going on.

MissMillie

(38,553 posts)
8. Gym is ONE of the first things to go
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:23 AM
Dec 2013

Art and Music usually get the axe, especially in states where P.E. is mandated already.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
11. No joke, the dearth of physical education in public schools is appalling
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:14 PM
Dec 2013

We have to fix this. Arts and PE have received absurdly short shrift lately.

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