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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:25 AM Dec 2013

Greenwald Mocks Time For Person Of The Year Selection...(updated)

Greenwald Mocks Time For Person Of The Year Selection: 'A Meaningless Award From A Meaningless Magazine'

Glenn Greenwald ridiculed Time on Wednesday for the magazine's decision to name Pope Francis — and not Edward Snowden — its "person of the year" for 2013.

In an email to TPM, Greenwald, who reported extensively on the National Security Agency's top secret surveillance programs revealed by Snowden, said that the selection was motivated by Time's desire to be "relevant" — if only for a moment.

"It's a meaningless award from a meaningless magazine, designed to achieve the impossible: to make TIME relevant and interesting for a few fleeting moments," he wrote.

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TIME Magazine: as edgy, bold, courageous and innovative as ever: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/11/living/time-person-of-the-year/index.html … - Edward Snowden "Runner-up" http://poy.time.com/2013/12/11/runner-up-edward-snowden-the-dark-prophet/
7:51 AM - 11 Dec 2013

Person of the Year Runner-Up: Edward Snowden

He pulled off the year's most spectacular heist. Exiled from his country, the 30-year-old computer whiz has become the doomsayer of the information age.
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Greenwald set the stakes for the "person of the year" selection earlier this week, suggesting that Time would be "naming themselves Cowards of the Decade" if Snowden did not receive the distinction.

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If TIME doesn't name Snowden Person of the Year, they're naming themselves Cowards of the Decade http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2013/12/no-contest-edward-snowden-is-person-of-the-year.html
6:11 PM - 9 Dec 2013

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/greenwald-mocks-time-for-person-of-the-year-selection

Oh well!



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Greenwald Mocks Time For Person Of The Year Selection...(updated) (Original Post) ProSense Dec 2013 OP
It should have been ME! randome Dec 2013 #1
Of course he is leftynyc Dec 2013 #2
Fire one shot in the air, say the magic chant, and the invisible ProSense will appear. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #3
Well, it didn't take long for you to show how upset you are about this post. ProSense Dec 2013 #5
Nah, not really. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #6
LOL! OK ProSense Dec 2013 #8
If you give Time Magazine credence for reporting the news Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #10
Greenwald: "If TIME doesn't name Snowden Person of the Year..." ProSense Dec 2013 #14
Who said I'm upset? NuclearDem Dec 2013 #11
"It's just quite funny that anytime Greenwald so much as farts..." ProSense Dec 2013 #15
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #9
Greeny may be the biggest attention whore in Brazil snooper2 Dec 2013 #4
How can you say that?!? Snowden exposed that Spy agencies Spy! That's earthshattering!!!!!!111!1!!1! stevenleser Dec 2013 #7
Don't ever change, Glenn... Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #12
Maybe TIME wants to stay in business. ;-) WinkyDink Dec 2013 #13
Maybe the next person Glenn uses and abuses for personal profit will win? tridim Dec 2013 #16
You're still big, Glenn ... ucrdem Dec 2013 #17
...soooooooooo, wait a sec here... WilliamPitt Dec 2013 #18
+1 onenote Dec 2013 #26
Greeenwald. LOL...nt SidDithers Dec 2013 #19
Is the NSA still spying on the Vatican? Is the Pope a designated terrorist? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #20
Snowden is a man I don't understand. mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2013 #21
He talked his coworkers into giving him their passwords. randome Dec 2013 #22
I just don't get why mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2013 #24
To be fair, I don't impugn the motives of those who want to rally 'round Greenwald & Snowden. randome Dec 2013 #33
Clearly, Glenn Greenwald should have been Time's MineralMan Dec 2013 #23
+1...Because at the end of the day, *THAT* is what this is really all about... Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #25
Exactly. Any "journalist" that spends 80% of the time making THEMSELVES the damn story Number23 Dec 2013 #38
Why not go John Lennon and say that Snowden is bigger than Jesus? nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #27
I really do not care what Greenwald thinks Gothmog Dec 2013 #28
lol grantcart Dec 2013 #29
So Snowden is bigger than the Pope? Rex Dec 2013 #30
Where did you get a baby pic of Julian Assange? n/t Tanuki Dec 2013 #31
He certainly is full of himself, isn't he. Historic NY Dec 2013 #32
Undoubtedly his tweets and other responses would have Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #34
Always A Douchebag otohara Dec 2013 #35
Maybe I haven't been paying attention; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #36
Haven't said this in EONS but MAD props to Time Magazine. And props to Skraxx too for that matter! Number23 Dec 2013 #37
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
1. It should have been ME!
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:30 AM
Dec 2013

[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers. It's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]
 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
3. Fire one shot in the air, say the magic chant, and the invisible ProSense will appear.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:36 AM
Dec 2013

Greenwald Snowden Greenwald Snowden not eeeeeeeeeeeVIL!

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
8. LOL! OK
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:50 AM
Dec 2013

Appears Time got to Greenwald's "feathers."

And here you are, upset because someone posted about Greenwald's whine.

LOL!

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
10. If you give Time Magazine credence for reporting the news
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:53 AM
Dec 2013

You haven't been paying attention.


Name me one story they broke which you consider important and hard hitting.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
14. Greenwald: "If TIME doesn't name Snowden Person of the Year..."
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:55 AM
Dec 2013

You: "If you give Time Magazine credence for reporting the news"

I don't read TIME. So I really don't give two shits, but Greenwald is upset.



 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
11. Who said I'm upset?
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:53 AM
Dec 2013

It's just quite funny that anytime Greenwald so much as farts, you pick up on it and find something to rofl smiley about.

If you don't like Greenwald, then don't feed him attention.

ProSense

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15. "It's just quite funny that anytime Greenwald so much as farts..."
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:57 AM
Dec 2013

Well, that's an apt description of his whine.

"If you don't like Greenwald, then don't feed him attention."

Yeah, you're upset.






Response to NuclearDem (Reply #6)

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
4. Greeny may be the biggest attention whore in Brazil
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:37 AM
Dec 2013

Even bigger than the Andressa Soares-

Also known as the Watermelon Woman


 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
7. How can you say that?!? Snowden exposed that Spy agencies Spy! That's earthshattering!!!!!!111!1!!1!
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:48 AM
Dec 2013

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
12. Don't ever change, Glenn...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 11:53 AM
Dec 2013

Jesus fuckin' Christ...EVERY TIME I do a little soul searching and wonder to myself if my longtime criticisms of Greenwald's thin skin, egotism and lack of professionalism have been undeserved or overly harsh (because let's be honest; most of DU has given me a lot of grief for it), he goes and proves me 100% right by pulling some shit like this...

At least the committee of judges for the Pulitzer Prize are fully on notice now...And God help the Academy if Snowden doesn't get an honorary Oscar in March (I'll pay good money in American dollars to see Greenwald storm the stage at the Oscars for his "Kanye West" moment)...

I'm not on twitter, but I'm going to sign up just to troll the ever-living fuck out of him....He just makes himself too ripe and juicy of a target...

tridim

(45,358 posts)
16. Maybe the next person Glenn uses and abuses for personal profit will win?
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:03 PM
Dec 2013

I can hear his massive ego deflating as I type.

 

WilliamPitt

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18. ...soooooooooo, wait a sec here...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:17 PM
Dec 2013

...if Snowden had been named Person of the Year, it would not be a meaningless award from a meaningless magazine?

I have admired his journalism for years, but I think his ego has achieved planetary proportions.

Obtain thyself a grip, Mr. Greenwald. Look around you; there is nothing, but nothing, in orbit around you, save for what appear to be a few oversized opinions of yourself.

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
21. Snowden is a man I don't understand.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:30 PM
Dec 2013

I still feel like he should have went to the oversight committee with this. I am not well versed on NSA rules. I do know we have too many people with security clearances. Which leads me back to the biggest expansion of Government during the Dubya/Shooter era. And with all these private contractors don't we risk something of this nature happening again??? To me it seems Greenwald wants to keep Snowden relevant. I appreciate Greenwald's exposure of the problem but its not like I didn't have some inkling to what was going on I mean we have known about Dubya/Shooter and warrantless wiretapping for years. And since a lot of these policies started during the Dubya/Shooter era, won't it take a little more than an executive order to stop them??? Inquiring minds want to know?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
22. He talked his coworkers into giving him their passwords.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:33 PM
Dec 2013

That's still a poor security arrangement but I doubt contractors normally have unfettered access to internal data.

I'm pretty sure the fiance he abandoned didn't understand him, either.
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mstinamotorcity2

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24. I just don't get why
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:44 PM
Dec 2013

ever one is acting so shocked about the information he leaked. I just feel like if I had an idea of what was going on, I know other people felt the same way. The warrantless wiretapping been had my antenna's up.

 

randome

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33. To be fair, I don't impugn the motives of those who want to rally 'round Greenwald & Snowden.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 01:47 PM
Dec 2013

I think this country is badly in need of heroes and when something is 'revealed' about the NSA, many focus on it and lose perspective.

Maybe after decades of Reaganomics, we've become too dispirited to seek out and support the really BIG things that need our attention.
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MineralMan

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23. Clearly, Glenn Greenwald should have been Time's
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:39 PM
Dec 2013

Person of the Year. I can't imagine why Time missed their opportunity.

Blue_Tires

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25. +1...Because at the end of the day, *THAT* is what this is really all about...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:56 PM
Dec 2013

I'm just grateful that there are 'real' journalists (you know, the old-school conventional types that Greenwald hates because it's such an outdated paradigm) keeping their heads down and quietly doing excellent work on the NSA story without the sensationalist attention whoring and glory seeking....

Number23

(24,544 posts)
38. Exactly. Any "journalist" that spends 80% of the time making THEMSELVES the damn story
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 05:58 PM
Dec 2013

is no journalist at all. He is past the point of making himself a walking pun now.

I can understand Glenn being disappointed. But disappointment isn't enough, he has to launch personal attacks and swim in the deep waters of the Asshole Abyss. I am really, really getting sick of his shit.

grantcart

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29. lol
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 01:24 PM
Dec 2013

Really that is funny.

I wonder if Snowden is beginning to wonder about all of the wonderful promises that he must have heard from Glenn.

If I was the guy about to write a $ 250 million dollar check to start a media organization with GG at the center of it I would be having some serious second thoughts about now.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
30. So Snowden is bigger than the Pope?
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 01:27 PM
Dec 2013

GG seems to think this is all a game. Who the fuck cares what person TIME picks!? Who even reads that rag anymore?



 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
34. Undoubtedly his tweets and other responses would have
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 01:53 PM
Dec 2013

Been identical had Snowden been named.

The guy is a hack, but it sure is easy to push his buttons.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
36. Maybe I haven't been paying attention; but ...
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 02:18 PM
Dec 2013

it seems weeks since GG did a "Must stay relevant" tweet.

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