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Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:29 PM Dec 2013

Hindus Propose Giant Monkey God Statue On Oklahoma Capitol Grounds


How’s that law for religious displays working out for you, right-wing Christians of Oklahoma? Sure, you got to put up your giant 10 commandments monument in front of the State House. But this opened up the door for the Satanic Temple to ask for a memorial. Now, the Hindus are calling for their own religious statue to be placed on the state capitol grounds in Oklahoma City.

Hindu group wants to erect a giant statue of Lord Hanuman.

A Hindu group, the Universal Society of Hinduism, has added their voice to those wishing to place a sacred memorial on the Okla. state capitol grounds.

The Universal Society of Hinduism’s president Rajan Zed petitioned the state for “permission to place a statue of Lord Hanuman” on the public space. He goes on to say that: “This statue would raise awareness of Oklahomans about Hinduism, oldest and third largest religion of the world with about one billion adherents and a rich philosophical thought,” Zed stated.

Lord Hanuman is a Hindu monkey god who represents valor, strength, and courage. Lord Hanuman is one of the most important deities for Hindus. To learn more about Lord Hanuman and the Hindus, visit here.

The Hindu’s request for a monument comes after the Satanic Temple made a similar one.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/12/12/hindus-seek-ok-capitol-monument/
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Hindus Propose Giant Monkey God Statue On Oklahoma Capitol Grounds (Original Post) Katashi_itto Dec 2013 OP
WTG, Hindus! MrScorpio Dec 2013 #1
Indeed. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #3
That is awesome. geomon666 Dec 2013 #2
I can dig it. flying rabbit Dec 2013 #7
I want to see the Satanist's memorial now. geomon666 Dec 2013 #8
ICON FIGHT!!! Heather MC Dec 2013 #51
LOL catbyte Dec 2013 #85
HA! MsPithy Dec 2013 #136
If the Scientologists put up a statue of L. Ron Hubbard... AlbertCat Dec 2013 #169
It's to show that Rama and Sita are his heart Scootaloo Dec 2013 #9
+1 CrispyQ Dec 2013 #95
Sita, the great jazz singer? rocktivity Dec 2013 #152
This is GREAT!!!! I love it. AlbertCat Dec 2013 #171
As far as gods go, Hanuman's pretty fucking awesome. Scootaloo Dec 2013 #4
I agree. raindaddy Dec 2013 #24
K&R grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #5
Who are the two deities within his chest cavity? Cirque du So-What Dec 2013 #6
The blue guy is always Vishnu, I think MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #27
Here's one the Republicans can get behind: Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #103
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #133
it's ram and sita La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2013 #58
it's probably things like this which will get people to stop trying to use state to support JI7 Dec 2013 #10
what does the SAtan Memorial look like ? JI7 Dec 2013 #11
There's no pictures of it, but it sounds awesome geomon666 Dec 2013 #18
Heh... Wait Wut Dec 2013 #141
Not sure, but does it matter? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #19
Virginia Holiday Battle Includes Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster warrant46 Dec 2013 #21
Those quotes are ridiculous. RedCappedBandit Dec 2013 #59
I posted them to illustrate the Hypocrisy warrant46 Dec 2013 #82
Hypocrisy is often only recognized..... daleanime Dec 2013 #144
True so True warrant46 Dec 2013 #146
"Touched by an Angelhair" Demeter Dec 2013 #86
HERE IS the Santa Skeleton and Christian Cross warrant46 Dec 2013 #159
"forcing their beliefs on others"... tosh Dec 2013 #90
Touched by an Angelhair CrispyQ Dec 2013 #98
Excellent for the Hindus! Hekate Dec 2013 #12
Why don't you support the satanists? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #13
No, not in my educated opinion, and for a variety of reasons Hekate Dec 2013 #15
Do you just not support their beliefs, or not support their efforts cleanhippie Dec 2013 #17
So, do you not support the main argument that the Satanists are trying to make, that bluestate10 Dec 2013 #46
Satanists are just Republicans with religous trappings. Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #120
I'm Paul Ryan and I approve this message. alterfurz Dec 2013 #139
:) Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #149
The big difference localroger Dec 2013 #151
Because Satinism is just the doctrine of Ayn Rand, with some blood and skulls added for dramatic Erose999 Dec 2013 #121
And? cleanhippie Dec 2013 #126
Anton Levay himself said there was almost no difference between Satanic Philospy Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #129
Why? RedCappedBandit Dec 2013 #56
No religion Feral Child Dec 2013 #81
Good, that's a pretty badass monument! n/t whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #14
Just tell the people in the NE corner of the city Hanuman can stop earthquakes, jtuck004 Dec 2013 #16
Be careful What You Wish For... Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #20
I vote Monkey god!!! defacto7 Dec 2013 #22
That one belongs in Dayton Tennessee. nt rrneck Dec 2013 #23
at first i laughed but this could be rather cool dembotoz Dec 2013 #25
I'd love to see a 20 foot statue of Guanyin, pangaia Dec 2013 #26
Guanyin (354 ft) statue Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #28
Damn... That Could Almost Make ME Religious... WillyT Dec 2013 #29
Yes, I agree it's inspiring! Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #30
Would Love To See A "Modern Marvels" Expose' On How They Built That... WillyT Dec 2013 #31
Agree! Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #32
! Me too! ellie Dec 2013 #122
Is this by chance the one near Sanya, Hainan? pangaia Dec 2013 #35
It must be. Guan Yin of the South Sea of Sanya Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #37
So, now I can say 'I thought so.' :>) pangaia Dec 2013 #44
:) Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #45
Bodhisattva I'm gonna sell my house in town And I'll be there To shine in your Japan ... DreamGypsy Dec 2013 #50
She's beautiful and transgender RVN VET Dec 2013 #108
Thats very cool, I had no idea. We've several Buddhist temples here in New Orleans Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #130
I want that one in Texas! Why should Oklahoma get all the nice stuff? nt TBF Dec 2013 #137
I would love to see that as well. liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #68
I want mine there also. BlueJazz Dec 2013 #33
Exactly why the founding fathers... roamer65 Dec 2013 #34
I wonder if they'd let me erect a big penis statue? Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #36
The Shinto Kanamara Matsuri "Festival of the Steel Phallus" I am all for having Oklahoma have this Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #38
Yes! Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #40
...lol Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #41
Would be nice to see a 100 foot high one of those right smack on the Oklahoma capitol bluestate10 Dec 2013 #52
They need a 500 foot VAGINA!! You know how scared republicans are of that loudsue Dec 2013 #92
To save room and in the spirit of ecumenism, construct as a unit. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #99
You Don't Think Jesus Would Have Wanted a Penis Statue Ripped Down? On the Road Dec 2013 #104
Rolling Stones Tour 1975 SomeGuyInEagan Dec 2013 #115
Yes, the 231-foot "Penis of Doom" in St Pete, Russia. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #101
Does anyone remember this Firesign Theater routine? Ace Acme Dec 2013 #155
Waiting for the Electrician... WheelWalker Dec 2013 #160
Waiting for the Electrician or Someone Like Him Cirque du So-What Dec 2013 #161
Good one. The P of D was mentioned in the Men's Group, complete with pics. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #162
SCHEDULING VAQSHTA NERADA FOR ASS KICKING Skittles Dec 2013 #143
THIS. SO. ROCKS. hatrack Dec 2013 #39
I dig Hanuman blogslut Dec 2013 #42
Bigger ! Bigger ! BIGGER !! russspeakeasy Dec 2013 #43
With a nice long tail: jsr Dec 2013 #102
Yes, yes, yes ! russspeakeasy Dec 2013 #111
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #47
They could use this other god: jsr Dec 2013 #48
Miley Cyrus? Borchkins Dec 2013 #107
Love it nt fayhunter Dec 2013 #49
I know, I know MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #53
Because it was the exact name of the article I was referencing, not out of disrespect Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #54
I know MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #64
:) Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #66
it's not the same thing, hindus refer to him as monkey god sometimes also, it's not seen as JI7 Dec 2013 #72
Yes yes yes MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #73
while i am an atheist the family i come from is hindu, not very religious JI7 Dec 2013 #75
"Bastard Boy born of a suspect virgin" Not only would this be an awesome thread starter but AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #114
A Raven Totem Pole would be a nice touch too, IMO. nt Zorra Dec 2013 #55
Yes! ^^this^^ annabanana Dec 2013 #150
Exactly. Titonwan Dec 2013 #164
A giant spaghetti monster would be just as valid as any other religious monument. nt RedCappedBandit Dec 2013 #57
I really, really, really wanna see a statue of the Flying Spaghetti Monster on the capitol grounds. kath Dec 2013 #112
With an upturned colander on his/her/its head. Pastafarianism 4ever! erronis Dec 2013 #156
Tourist destination Jacinta Dec 2013 #60
Build one to Kali LittleBlue Dec 2013 #61
. jsr Dec 2013 #62
Wow LittleBlue Dec 2013 #63
Hey, you could always convert!! Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2013 #154
The Temple of Kali in Kolkata Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #69
I'll drink to that! SHRED Dec 2013 #65
Please let this happen! Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #67
Sooner or Later this was bound to happen dem in texas Dec 2013 #70
The problem is they won't....... Swede Atlanta Dec 2013 #89
Idiots. Guess they should have learn the constitution. Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #119
I'm calling the Church of Elvis. Coyotl Dec 2013 #71
619-239-KING operators are standing by. Erose999 Dec 2013 #123
We Heathens should also get a statue Tyrs WolfDaemon Dec 2013 #74
"they should be willing to sacrifice of themselves to better govern" Titonwan Dec 2013 #165
My sister lives in OK City Aerows Dec 2013 #76
I'd love to see some of my fundy relatives have Jamastiene Dec 2013 #77
Very much Aerows Dec 2013 #78
Wow. What an awesome visual. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #79
Excellent! Feral Child Dec 2013 #80
America has it all. Kurovski Dec 2013 #83
Love it, LOL. Can I request a statue for Ceiling Cat? catbyte Dec 2013 #84
Better yet, Grumpy Cat. Rozlee Dec 2013 #110
I can't think of a more appropriate statue. malthaussen Dec 2013 #87
Trolling the Christian Taliban with their own rules. Arkana Dec 2013 #88
I want Krishna too, another blue guy....n/t radhika Dec 2013 #91
Here's a two-fer: jsr Dec 2013 #94
Looks like something packman Dec 2013 #93
Monkey Man progressoid Dec 2013 #96
Or... progressoid Dec 2013 #97
I had forgotten this one.......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2013 #116
Or... RedSpartan Dec 2013 #140
Relax. Folks will go ape over it. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #100
Well then, as a neighbor, freebrew Dec 2013 #105
I think the black hole is already there. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2013 #145
If we tell the Xian fundies that Lord Hanuman is Bush the Frat Boy, they'll give it an OK Jack Rabbit Dec 2013 #106
fair is fair Sunlei Dec 2013 #109
I want Zeus the Asparagus Caster put up on the court house lawn. trusty elf Dec 2013 #163
Damn! A roided monkey! meegbear Dec 2013 #113
Just to annoy the Fundies even more, Loudspeakers playing: Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #118
+1 meegbear Dec 2013 #125
This is great! WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2013 #117
That's a badass looking statue Islandurp Dec 2013 #124
While we're at it. How about some Indigenous tribal god statues. Crowman1979 Dec 2013 #127
Since Okie GOPers oppose separation of church and state Joey Liberal Dec 2013 #128
Just imagine directions at the OK state capital grounds 10 years from now. Half-Century Man Dec 2013 #131
Brilliant! Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #134
LOL warrant46 Dec 2013 #148
Repeal of the law in 3-2-1 jmowreader Dec 2013 #132
Sounds of heads exploding. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2013 #135
Ask Christians about the 2nd commandment rafeh1 Dec 2013 #138
I want to see a cross. 840high Dec 2013 #142
This one? jsr Dec 2013 #153
I say they should have their Monkey God statue! DevonRex Dec 2013 #147
Coyote. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #157
Perfect! And coyotes are DevonRex Dec 2013 #158
Ha! Titonwan Dec 2013 #166
That would be so cool.. n/t EC Dec 2013 #167
K&R, Liked, bookmarked. love_katz Dec 2013 #168
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #170
This was meant to get a rise, and it will but a much better monument grantcart Dec 2013 #172

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
3. Indeed.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:39 PM
Dec 2013

The only thing that might be better would be giant monkey couples, uh, coupling. Kama Sutra and all that.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
51. ICON FIGHT!!!
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 12:23 AM
Dec 2013

It's like a food fight but with a Giant block of Marble!!
Oklahoma is about to get as tacky as the Chotchkies section in a Goodwill

MsPithy

(809 posts)
136. HA!
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 06:46 PM
Dec 2013

"as tacky as the Chotchkies section in a Goodwill"

Especially so, after the Pastafarians add the ginormous spaghetti strainer!

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
169. If the Scientologists put up a statue of L. Ron Hubbard...
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 05:54 PM
Dec 2013

....it'd be worth going to OK just the throw things at it.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
171. This is GREAT!!!! I love it.
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 06:14 PM
Dec 2013

Got me investigating it... and you can see the WHOLE film here:

&feature

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
24. I agree.
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:15 PM
Dec 2013

Hanuman would be a great addition if they've made the decision to display religious icons...

Cirque du So-What

(25,927 posts)
6. Who are the two deities within his chest cavity?
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:42 PM
Dec 2013

I've seen them in artwork depicting Hanuman, usually in the background.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
103. Here's one the Republicans can get behind:
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 12:53 PM
Dec 2013


On the other hand, I think the "patron of sciences and learning" is a deal killer.

Although he is known by many attributes, Ganesha's elephant head makes him easy to identify. Ganesha is widely revered as the remover of obstacles, the patron of arts and sciences and the deva of intellect and wisdom. As the god of beginnings, he is honoured at the start of rituals and ceremonies. Ganesha is also invoked as patron of letters and learning during writing sessions.

Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #27)

JI7

(89,247 posts)
10. it's probably things like this which will get people to stop trying to use state to support
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:49 PM
Dec 2013

religious things.

it's still funny when people who push for state funding for christian schools are shocked when muslim and other religions get the same funding.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
21. Virginia Holiday Battle Includes Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:02 PM
Dec 2013




Beside a Christmas tree and creche sits a large banner with a nativity scene in which baby Jesus has been replaced by a plate of spaghetti with googly eyes. A crowd that includes pirates and gnomes surrounds Jesus. At the bottom its message reads “Touched by an Angelhair.” The scene is the work of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monsters.

Near the courthouse fence is another display whose sign reads ”Greetings From Your Friendly Local Atheists.” It’s message is about celebrating the Constitution and honoring the separation of church and state. Elsewhere on the lawn, a skeleton in a Santa suit hangs on a cross.

“People are just horrified by this. It’s just created a lot of division, a lot of angst and a lot of people are upset,” Kenneth Reid, Loudoun County supervisor-elect for the Leesburg district, told ABCNews.com. Reid has been vehemently fighting the atheist groups that are behind the decorations and says the displays are destroying people’s holiday spirit. Reid is Jewish and says he is very open to other faiths. But he believes the Leesburg atheists are forcing their beliefs on others.

“Nobody is out there preaching like these guys. They’re out there in a blatant attempt to try to stamp out religion and ruin people’s Christmas,” Reid said.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
59. Those quotes are ridiculous.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 12:35 AM
Dec 2013

Can you imagine their response if people said they were "just horrified" by a christian display?

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
144. Hypocrisy is often only recognized.....
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 08:02 PM
Dec 2013

in other people, rarely ones self. Especially at the teabag level

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
86. "Touched by an Angelhair"
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:13 AM
Dec 2013

that explains just about everything about my life. Including my love for pasta. I'm a Unitarian Pastafarian!

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
159. HERE IS the Santa Skeleton and Christian Cross
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:56 PM
Dec 2013


A skeleton wearing a Santa costume on a cross is on display at the Loudoun County Courthouse.

Hekate

(90,643 posts)
15. No, not in my educated opinion, and for a variety of reasons
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:58 PM
Dec 2013

However, you can just chalk it up to "my opinion." I will never deny their right to exist, however.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
17. Do you just not support their beliefs, or not support their efforts
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:00 PM
Dec 2013

To place a religious shrine on public property next to other religious shrines?

And why aren't their beliefs just as Valid as any other religious beliefs?

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
46. So, do you not support the main argument that the Satanists are trying to make, that
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 12:16 AM
Dec 2013

religion is a private, not public endeavor and that the state shouldn't mix religion and governance?

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
120. Satanists are just Republicans with religous trappings.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 04:26 PM
Dec 2013

Mainstream Satanists philopshy is identical to Ayn Rand. Although I support their right to worship as they please.

Well not "The Process Church of Satan" Since they advocate Human Sacrifice.

localroger

(3,626 posts)
151. The big difference
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 09:36 PM
Dec 2013

Payl Ryan is an idiot. Anton Lavey may have been deliberately evil, but he was not stupid.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
121. Because Satinism is just the doctrine of Ayn Rand, with some blood and skulls added for dramatic
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 04:31 PM
Dec 2013

effect?

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
126. And?
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 04:56 PM
Dec 2013

Not entirely sure that's accurate, but even so, so what?

Isn't it just another unfounded belief system not grounded in reality?

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
129. Anton Levay himself said there was almost no difference between Satanic Philospy
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 05:29 PM
Dec 2013

and Ayn Randianism...except for religious trappings.

As for reality...Reality is what you make of it.

As for the exsistence of Gods...
Schrödinger's cat: a cat, a flask of poison, and a radioactive source are placed in a sealed box. If an internal monitor detects radioactivity (i.e. a single atom decaying), the flask is shattered, releasing the poison that kills the cat. The Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics implies that after a while, the cat is simultaneously alive and dead. Yet, when one looks in the box, one sees the cat either alive or dead, not both alive and dead. This poses the question of when exactly quantum superposition ends and reality collapses into one possibility or the other.

"Never be certain of anything. It's a sign of Weakness."
~Dr Who

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
81. No religion
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 07:57 AM
Dec 2013

including Wicca, get "support" from me, but I respect the Satanists decision to demand equal representation.

I would very much like to see a pentagram added to the variety of displays there.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
16. Just tell the people in the NE corner of the city Hanuman can stop earthquakes,
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:59 PM
Dec 2013

perhaps caused by gas fracking.

They will build it FOR you.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
35. Is this by chance the one near Sanya, Hainan?
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:46 PM
Dec 2013

I don't think so but... We flew past a huge statue of Guanyin while on approach to Sanya..

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
44. So, now I can say 'I thought so.' :>)
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:59 PM
Dec 2013

The female reincarnation of Avalokiteśvara . Buddha of Compassion. And H H The Dalai Lama is often referred to also as a reincarnation of Avalokiteśvara.
Guanyin, the Chinese name for Avalokiteśvara can be found throughout China..There is a wonderful statue of 'her' outside Qingdao, Shandong Province, my wife's second home town.
Sometimes she is depicted with as many as 1000 arms and eleven heads, so she can hear and help suffering human beings.




DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
50. Bodhisattva I'm gonna sell my house in town And I'll be there To shine in your Japan ...
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 12:22 AM
Dec 2013
To sparkle in your China
Yes I'll be there
Bodhisattva




RVN VET

(492 posts)
108. She's beautiful and transgender
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 01:56 PM
Dec 2013

Started out as dude. Actually, is both dude and dudette, depending on which you want to adore at a given moment.

Avalokiteshvara is a bud of mine, but Kwanyin is my babe!

(I'd be a Buddhist, but I can't muster the strength for all the prostrations!)

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
130. Thats very cool, I had no idea. We've several Buddhist temples here in New Orleans
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 05:33 PM
Dec 2013

I want to start going.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
34. Exactly why the founding fathers...
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:44 PM
Dec 2013

advocated separation of church and state. No religious symbols should be allow anywhere on government property. "In God We Trust" should not be on our money, as it was pre-1864 for coins and 1955 for paper currency.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
36. I wonder if they'd let me erect a big penis statue?
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:48 PM
Dec 2013

I worship at the altar of the penis, so I should be able to have a 50 ft. penis statue on government property.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
38. The Shinto Kanamara Matsuri "Festival of the Steel Phallus" I am all for having Oklahoma have this
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:52 PM
Dec 2013

The Shinto Kanamara Matsuri (かなまら祭り?, "Festival of the Steel Phallus&quot is held each spring at the Kanayama shrine (金山神社 in Kawasaki, Japan. The exact dates vary: the main festivities fall on the first Sunday in April. The penis, as the central theme of the event, is reflected in illustrations, candy, carved vegetables, decorations, and a mikoshi parade.

The Kanamara Matsuri is centered around a local penis-venerating shrine once popular among prostitutes who wished to pray for protection from sexually transmitted diseases. It is said that there are also divine protections for business prosperity and for the clan's prosperity; and for easy delivery, marriage, and married-couple harmony.

There is also a legend of a sharp-toothed demon (vagina dentata) that hid inside the vagina of a young woman and castrated two young men on their wedding nights. As a result, the young woman sought help from a blacksmith, who fashioned an iron phallus to break the demon's teeth, which led to the enshrinement of the item.
Today, the festival has become something of a tourist attraction and is used to raise money for HIV research.[citation needed]


bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
52. Would be nice to see a 100 foot high one of those right smack on the Oklahoma capitol
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 12:24 AM
Dec 2013

grounds. Teabaggers are stupid pigeons, they claim to love Jesus, but practice none of what Jesus taught.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
104. You Don't Think Jesus Would Have Wanted a Penis Statue Ripped Down?
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 01:02 PM
Dec 2013

He didn't even believe in drawing pictures of animals.

 

Ace Acme

(1,464 posts)
155. Does anyone remember this Firesign Theater routine?
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:05 PM
Dec 2013


Can we put our antenna over there on your mountain?

That's our sacred mountain.

It's our sacred antenna.

Cirque du So-What

(25,927 posts)
161. Waiting for the Electrician or Someone Like Him
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 11:50 PM
Dec 2013

set the mood for many a lost evening during my misspent youth.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
53. I know, I know
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 12:26 AM
Dec 2013

Lord Hanuman is referred as the "monkey god" even in Hinduism. I know the OP title is not meant to be disrespectful. I know this is a positive thing. I just wonder why the OP title had to say Monkey God instead of Lord Hanuman? I would never start a OP with Bastard Boy born of a suspect virgin. I don't know. Just seems a little pointless to open an OP like that.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
64. I know
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 12:55 AM
Dec 2013

it is very unfortunate. I hope I conveyed that I didn't think you were being disrespectful. It is just an unfortunate headline for Lord Hanamun. Sigh.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
72. it's not the same thing, hindus refer to him as monkey god sometimes also, it's not seen as
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 01:47 AM
Dec 2013

offensive and not the same thing as "bastard boy born of a suspect virgin".

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
73. Yes yes yes
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 02:04 AM
Dec 2013

I said that. However. It is LORD HANUMAN. The other thing I wrote is not only true, but offensive as well. I could have said Jesus. It is unfortunate the headline was written as such. Most Hindus would say Lord Hanuman, although we acknowledge that Hanuman is a monkey (inquisitive) like god, we recognize him as Rama's loyal devotee. Revered. Prayed upon and given offerings to. A little mutual respect in the headline would have been nice. I mean it is the oldest practiced religion in the world.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
75. while i am an atheist the family i come from is hindu, not very religious
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 02:09 AM
Dec 2013

types but i always referred to them as monkey god, elephant god ,blue god etc.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
114. "Bastard Boy born of a suspect virgin" Not only would this be an awesome thread starter but
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 03:56 PM
Dec 2013

a pretty kick ass metal band name too

Titonwan

(785 posts)
164. Exactly.
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 09:00 AM
Dec 2013

That was my first thought, too. Although I'm not a First Nation tribe from that region (I'm Chickasaw), you've got to admit Totem poles are impressive.
Hey, what's good for the gander...

kath

(10,565 posts)
112. I really, really, really wanna see a statue of the Flying Spaghetti Monster on the capitol grounds.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 03:01 PM
Dec 2013

Ramen.

Jacinta

(4 posts)
60. Tourist destination
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 12:37 AM
Dec 2013

Oklahoma City, religious capital of the world. I would like to see all the different religious displays. I envision an Epcot.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
63. Wow
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 12:50 AM
Dec 2013

Is it weird to find that awesome?

This thread is kinda making me wish I had been born a Hindu.


 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
154. Hey, you could always convert!!
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:04 PM
Dec 2013

Nothing to stop you from chanting. Another cool thing about being a Hindu: They have more holidays and celebrations than any other religion!!

They have lots of cool gods and goddesses and stories.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
70. Sooner or Later this was bound to happen
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 01:31 AM
Dec 2013

I wonder why it took so long. Now the barn door is open and my guess is that we will be getting requests for many different religious monuments everywhere. Now the right-wing fundies have to practice what they preach. This is going to be fun!

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
89. The problem is they won't.......
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:30 AM
Dec 2013

I would be very surprised if any of these requests were granted. After all when OK decided to allow religious icons on the state capitol grounds they meant icons of a specific religion - white, conservative, baptist. After all that is the only real religion in the world.

So I see court cases going eventually all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. The state will deny the requests. The ACLU will file suit and this will wind through the state and eventually the federal court systems.

In the end I think the U.S. Supreme Court will rule that OK has to let the Satanists have their statue of Lucifer, the Hindus their statue, Buddhists theirs, etc.

It is just like in I believe Louisiana where state legislators are having fits over non-Christians asking for school vouchers to send their children to Islamist schools. The state legislator who proposed the law is quoted as saying...and I'm paraphrasing ... well we of course only meant this to apply to parents that want to send their children to Christian schools.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
119. Idiots. Guess they should have learn the constitution.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 04:23 PM
Dec 2013

Looking forward to seeing this blow up in their faces.

Tyrs WolfDaemon

(2,289 posts)
74. We Heathens should also get a statue
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 02:06 AM
Dec 2013

We could do a cool Thor statue like this:


Of course, we could use a more traditional version like this:


I could design a neat Runic Obelisk. I envision a four sided stone that stands a good eight feet tall, perhaps a bit taller with some tasteful prayers for guidance and wisdom in runes (Translations can be put on a small plaque at the foot). I could even put the Norse creation story, or better yet, the story about how Odin sacrificed his own eye for wisdom and how he hanged (or is it hung?) upside down from the branches of Yggdrasil so that he could take up and learn the secrets of the runes. If we're lucky some of the politicians will take the story as a hint that they should be willing to sacrifice of themselves to better govern.
It could then be topped with a version of Mjölnir, Thor's Hammer, similar to this:




I really like this idea. While I doubt anyone else would like it, I think I may try and make a smaller version for my front yard! One of our neighbors already hates us (we have no idea why. She seemed to have it out for us the moment she and her family moved in next door. The rest of her family doesn't seem to have a problem with us ) so I'm sure this will just make it worse. If she were to come and argue about it, I can tell her she is trampling on my religious beliefs. That makes it almost worth doing anyway.


Titonwan

(785 posts)
165. "they should be willing to sacrifice of themselves to better govern"
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 09:17 AM
Dec 2013

A statue of Lakota's Sundance should be included. That was a religious ceremony.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
76. My sister lives in OK City
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 02:19 AM
Dec 2013

and she's a holy roller. Am I wrong that this would delight the ever-loving crap out of me if she had to pass by a statue of Lord Hanuman and the FSM every day? She freaked out on Rainbow Brite dolls. This would blow her circuits completely, and I would just LOVE to be there when it happened. Hell, I'd donate to help build it!

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
77. I'd love to see some of my fundy relatives have
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 02:49 AM
Dec 2013

to see something like that too. We aren't in OK, but still, it would be nice. They need to be careful what they wish for, or else, every religion is going to want to join in on the fun.

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
80. Excellent!
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 07:52 AM
Dec 2013

An ancient and venerable faith. Glad to see recognition for the right to equal representation.

I don't believe that religious displays have any place in the context of government. These displays rightly belong only on church grounds. If, however, Christians insist on forcing a connection, then it is only just that all faiths be represented. None are more (or less) valid than any other.

malthaussen

(17,186 posts)
87. I can't think of a more appropriate statue.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:21 AM
Dec 2013

Of course, I interpret it a little differently from the Hindus...

-- Mal

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
93. Looks like something
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 11:47 AM
Dec 2013

Like the third boss in one of the World of Warcraft raids.

Going to send a few bucks to help them on this noble cause.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
116. I had forgotten this one..........
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 04:10 PM
Dec 2013

Thanks progressoid. I'm not sure if it has too much to do with the subject of the thread, but that was nice. Nice pics too. DAMN we're getting old.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
105. Well then, as a neighbor,
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 01:15 PM
Dec 2013

and a confirmed cosmologist: I would like to request a small black hole be installed in the center of the capitol in honor of the cosmos.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
145. I think the black hole is already there.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 08:16 PM
Dec 2013

Oklahoma is a large Oklahoma-shaped black hole. No light or learning can escape, from what I can tell.


Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
106. If we tell the Xian fundies that Lord Hanuman is Bush the Frat Boy, they'll give it an OK
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 01:29 PM
Dec 2013

As for the request from the Satanists, we'll get their approval by telling them that it's really Cheney.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
118. Just to annoy the Fundies even more, Loudspeakers playing:
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 04:18 PM
Dec 2013


Although it problably wouldnt be respectful of Lord Hanuman. Course being a Monkey God, he must have an awesome sense of humor...

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
117. This is great!
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 04:12 PM
Dec 2013

Also something most of us here predicted would happen when state law-makers started folding their hands to these looney-tunes. If you recognize one religion, you gotta recognize them all. RW heads should start exploding any day.
Personally, I'd like to see a big version of the "Co-exist" bumper sticker we're all familiar with outside state houses.

Crowman1979

(3,844 posts)
127. While we're at it. How about some Indigenous tribal god statues.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 05:05 PM
Dec 2013

Especially since Oklahoma has a large percentage of Native Americans.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
131. Just imagine directions at the OK state capital grounds 10 years from now.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 05:48 PM
Dec 2013

"Comptroller's office? Ya head down this way, go past Hanuman"s statue and Shrine to Cthulhu, make a right at the Pyramid of Quetzalcoatl. Keep going that way until you reach Apollo's temple. It's got a lot of smoke coming out of the top. Go behind there and the office is in the building is back there. If you reach the volcano statue to Pele, you've gone to far.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
132. Repeal of the law in 3-2-1
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 06:05 PM
Dec 2013

I wonder, tho: how long until Fred Phelps digs his Matthew Shepard Monument plans out? (For the new people: many years ago Fred Phelps used to seek out small towns that had Ten Commandments monuments in front of their public buildings and demand the right to install a monument claiming Matthew Shepard, who was a gay student beaten to death by homophobes, is in hell because he was "a fag." After he figured out that city councils have access to backhoes, flatbed trucks and churches with empty lawns, he stopped.)

rafeh1

(385 posts)
138. Ask Christians about the 2nd commandment
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 06:53 PM
Dec 2013

Ask Christians about the 2nd commandment they ignore. As in thou shalt not have any graven images (idols). Only Jews and Muslims still adhere to the 2nd commandment. The Christian fundys will talk Jesus and bible but they have all trashed the 2nd commandment.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
147. I say they should have their Monkey God statue!
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 08:38 PM
Dec 2013

And I want one of Loki, too. Seriously. Mischievous gods sound like fun. More accessible.

 

Ace Acme

(1,464 posts)
157. Coyote.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:29 PM
Dec 2013

Here's how Coyote made the world:

He was walking along the shore of a lake one day, and he reached in the water and scooped up a handful of mud and squeezed it into a ball. Then he threw it into the sky and it became the world. He said "I didn't know it would do that!"

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
158. Perfect! And coyotes are
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:33 PM
Dec 2013

so full of character. Survivors. But funny, too. When they have enough to eat they're beautiful. Even though they're skittish they like to watch us humans.

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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
172. This was meant to get a rise, and it will but a much better monument
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 11:33 PM
Dec 2013

and one that is really a better analog to the 10 Commandments would be the Ashok Pillar:



Ashoka ascended to the throne in 269 BC inheriting the empire founded by his grandfather Chandragupta Maurya. Ashoka was reputedly a tyrant at the outset of his reign. Eight years after his accession he campaigned in Kalinga where in his own words, "a hundred and fifty thousand people were deported, a hundred thousand were killed and as many as that perished..." After this event Ashoka converted to Buddhism in remorse for the loss of life. Buddhism didn't become a state religion but with Ashoka's support spread it rapidly. The inscriptions on the pillars described edicts about morality based on Buddhist tenets

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