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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,919 posts)
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 05:00 PM Dec 2013

James Bond's dirty little spy secret: He's an alcoholic

(HealthDay News) -- Iconic spy character James Bond drinks so much and so often that in real life he'd be incapable of chasing down villains or wooing sexy vamps, a new study contends.

"The level of functioning as displayed in the books is inconsistent with the physical, mental and indeed sexual functioning expected from someone drinking this much alcohol," wrote a team led by Dr. Patrick Davies, of Nottingham University Hospitals, in England.

His team analyzed the famous spy's alcohol consumption and found that it was more than four times higher than the recommended intake for an adult male.

This puts Bond at high risk for several alcohol-related diseases -- including alcoholic liver disease, cirrhosis, impotence and alcohol-induced tremor. Because of his heavy drinking, the real 007 would have a life expectancy of 56, doctors say.

The alcohol-induced tremor may explain why Bond prefers his martinis "shaken, not stirred," the study authors joked. They added that the alcoholism-induced tremor in his hands means he's unlikely to be able to stir his drinks, even if he wants to.

Davies' group launched the study because they were struck by the fact that the amount of Bond's drinking in the original books seemed rather high. They wondered if he could actually carry out his missions and woo so many women at this level of drinking.

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http://healthyliving.msn.com/health-wellness/james-bonds-dirty-little-spy-secret-hes-an-alcoholic

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James Bond's dirty little spy secret: He's an alcoholic (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2013 OP
Yeah, but you get to drive a cool car with great gadgets. BKH70041 Dec 2013 #1
They forgot to take into account that 007 is a robot and, like Bender, runs on alcohol. nt Xipe Totec Dec 2013 #2
Is the same true for John Boehner? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2013 #4
Put it this way... jmowreader Dec 2013 #8
I suppose next they'll claim Paul Bunyan's ox wasn't blue jberryhill Dec 2013 #3
What? How dare you? CTyankee Dec 2013 #17
And... he was white, that's a verifiable fact jberryhill Dec 2013 #44
he's got nothing on Archer WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #5
"If I quit drinking right now, Twinguard Dec 2013 #6
"I need you to go home, sober up, and make sure your apartment is secure!" Initech Dec 2013 #37
Funniest fucking show on TV. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #15
Hell yeah! Who wants a Green Russian? Initech Dec 2013 #45
Nor Modesty Blaise - oops, sorry, wrong impression from the thread. I forgot how Archer drank haele Dec 2013 #18
I had a thing for Emma Peel Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #26
So did these guys Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2013 #31
Emma Peel lapfog_1 Dec 2013 #32
She looked fantastic in those catsuits. Ilsa Dec 2013 #33
She played Margaery Tyrell's grandmother in GOT Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2013 #43
Having read the books Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #47
Yep. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #48
Extraordinary crimes against the state must be avenged by agents extraordinary... nt Buns_of_Fire Dec 2013 #35
+++ aye MerryBlooms Dec 2013 #24
I know. When they had Archer wake up with amnesia in Bob's Burgers, it was classic. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #28
Yes! MerryBlooms Dec 2013 #39
"Bloody Mary, full of vodka, blessed art thou among cocktails." Initech Dec 2013 #36
The wonderful thing about fictional characters is that reality need not apply! Arkansas Granny Dec 2013 #7
Ian Fleming, Bond's creator, died of heart disease at 56! LongTomH Dec 2013 #9
I'm 56 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2013 #19
And he is WHITE...he just is, kiddies. DearAbby Dec 2013 #10
"I'll stop drinking as soon as figure out a better way to get the stuff down." longship Dec 2013 #11
Perhaps he only drank when he was on assignment FarCenter Dec 2013 #12
I know many people that can drink with no apparent effects. Packerowner740 Dec 2013 #13
He's also not exactly, what's the word? ...Real. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #14
The hell you say Major Nikon Dec 2013 #29
I wonder if they took into account that when you shake a martini kentauros Dec 2013 #16
To Quote President Bartlett, Wolf Frankula Dec 2013 #22
Not really a surprise, since in most respects Bond was Ian Fleming Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #20
Shaken but not stirred! Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2013 #21
I wonder which movie is the best to roll for a drinking game? Major Nikon Dec 2013 #23
a "shaken" martini is a dilute martini 0rganism Dec 2013 #25
My candle burns at both ends jazzimov Dec 2013 #27
At the beginning of "Thunderball," M ships Bond off to a health clinic Buns_of_Fire Dec 2013 #30
Actually in the books ballabosh Dec 2013 #34
If your liver is hard enough, it will deflect bullets Glassunion Dec 2013 #38
Unless this "study" was done as a hobby, they just wasted a bunch of time and money 1000words Dec 2013 #40
Actually the study was on the long term effects of a feline deficient diet. Glassunion Dec 2013 #41
Nice! 1000words Dec 2013 #42
I have read more than one novel in which characters drink a great deal of alcohol SheilaT Dec 2013 #46
Bond would be a flop, so to speak, in the sack. 47of74 Dec 2013 #49

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
8. Put it this way...
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 05:25 PM
Dec 2013

Anyone who thinks John Boehner is functioning doesn't pay attention to Congress. That may be why teabaggers like him so much: he lets them do what they want.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. I suppose next they'll claim Paul Bunyan's ox wasn't blue
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 05:05 PM
Dec 2013

Do they weigh in on whether the study suggests James Bond might be a fictional character?

CTyankee

(63,902 posts)
17. What? How dare you?
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 08:29 PM
Dec 2013

He was super tough, really brainy, and always randy at any moment to "perform" with a beautiful, sexy woman. What makes you think that wasn't TRUE?

Initech

(100,063 posts)
37. "I need you to go home, sober up, and make sure your apartment is secure!"
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:15 PM
Dec 2013

"Um... why to all three of those things?"

haele

(12,647 posts)
18. Nor Modesty Blaise - oops, sorry, wrong impression from the thread. I forgot how Archer drank
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 08:38 PM
Dec 2013

And forgot about the drinking part of this thread.

Nevermind...

Anyway, When I was 16, I wanted to be Modesty Blaise. Or Lt. Uhura. Or Emma Peel. Or Auntie Mame.
Bond had nothing on any of those ladies - he was a slacker. A smug, overbred pratt.

Haele

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
32. Emma Peel
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:01 PM
Dec 2013

or "M" appeal...

or "Male appeal" (which is where the character got her admittedly misogynistic name).



From an episode that was banned by most US stations that carried the show (1960s after all)... "The Hellfire Club".

Not to mention that Diana Rigg was also a "Bond Woman" (in the sense that she was in a Bond movie "On Her Majesties Secret Service). But she played the woman that Bond married and her death (at the hands of Ernst Blofeld) is likely what caused Bond to start drinking heavily.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
33. She looked fantastic in those catsuits.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:02 PM
Dec 2013

She is tall, around 5'10" IIRC. Looked great in those outfits. I like this leather one you picked out.

She's had some appearances on Game of Thrones.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,919 posts)
43. She played Margaery Tyrell's grandmother in GOT
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:31 PM
Dec 2013

Lady Olenna the Queen of Thorns.

Spoiler alert if you haven't read the books, she's quite a scheming conniving person.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
36. "Bloody Mary, full of vodka, blessed art thou among cocktails."
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:10 PM
Dec 2013

"Pray for me now in the hour of my death which I hope is soon. Amen."



LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
9. Ian Fleming, Bond's creator, died of heart disease at 56!
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 05:26 PM
Dec 2013

I remember one TV commentator saying: "I thought he was James Bond. He smoked like Peter Lorre, drank like Dean Martin, and used up girls like Errol Flynn, and it didn't seem to hurt him." Dead at 56? I think you can call that "hurting."

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,919 posts)
19. I'm 56
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 08:51 PM
Dec 2013

But I guess I don't drink as much.

There are exceptions however. Winston Churchill started every morning with a scotch and soda along with a big Cuban cigar. He lived to be 90 years old. In fact the longest cigar is known as a Churchill.

longship

(40,416 posts)
11. "I'll stop drinking as soon as figure out a better way to get the stuff down."
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 07:37 PM
Dec 2013

Quote by William Claude Dukenfield, AKA W. C. Fields.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
12. Perhaps he only drank when he was on assignment
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 07:46 PM
Dec 2013

It's a sacrifice he had to make in service of the Queen.

Several ounces of gin per day can be tolerated if spaced out. Alcoholics drink a pint or fifth a day.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
14. He's also not exactly, what's the word? ...Real.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 08:10 PM
Dec 2013

But it might be interesting to see him battling an international crime lord in the cinematically exciting context of a 12 step meeting in an episcopalian church.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
16. I wonder if they took into account that when you shake a martini
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 08:24 PM
Dec 2013

you end up watering it down. Shaking the ice develops ice chips, which end up in the drink, and melt. Stirred martinis are stronger due to no ice chips

And if he had an "alcohol-induced tremor" then did they also look into how often he makes his own drinks? When he says "shaken, not stirred" he's not telling himself those instructions; it's being spoken to a bartender.

They seem to be getting major points wrong.

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
22. To Quote President Bartlett,
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 09:26 PM
Dec 2013

He's asking for a weak martini and being snooty about it. I much preferred George Smiley, "Looks like a frog, dresses like a bookie and has a brain I'd give my eyes for."

Wolf

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
20. Not really a surprise, since in most respects Bond was Ian Fleming
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 09:05 PM
Dec 2013

and Fleming got through a bottle of gin and 70 cigarettes a day (and died at 56).

0rganism

(23,943 posts)
25. a "shaken" martini is a dilute martini
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 09:38 PM
Dec 2013

Maybe that's why this fictional character preferred them.

And perhaps his drinking habits were much different when not on assignment.

jazzimov

(1,456 posts)
27. My candle burns at both ends
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 09:46 PM
Dec 2013

It will not last the night.
But Ah! my foes and Oh! my friends
It gives a lovely light!

I remember reading that somewhere.....

Buns_of_Fire

(17,174 posts)
30. At the beginning of "Thunderball," M ships Bond off to a health clinic
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:00 PM
Dec 2013

to get all healthy again, since he was drinking and smoking too much and it was starting to effect his physical performance, and we can't have that now, can we 007?

ballabosh

(330 posts)
34. Actually in the books
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:04 PM
Dec 2013

but not so much in the films, it is brought up several times by M and other higher-ups in the secret service, that Bond is drinking (and smoking) excessively. Bond, himself often thinks about cutting down. At the beginning of Thunderball, he is sent by M to a new age health farm to dry out (this is also included in the movie, but I don't recall if it was for drinking/smoking or just general bad health).

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
40. Unless this "study" was done as a hobby, they just wasted a bunch of time and money
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:17 PM
Dec 2013

Next up, a study that addresses why "Alf" is a misleading representation of alien life form.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
46. I have read more than one novel in which characters drink a great deal of alcohol
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 01:37 AM
Dec 2013

and seem to be totally unaffected. I tend to notice that, and it can really pull me out of the story.

I don't smoke, but I do like to drink, so I'm well aware of the immediate effects of alcohol.

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