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boguspotus

(286 posts)
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 12:34 PM Dec 2013

Tea party declares war

The barbs continue to fly between House Speaker John Boehner and tea party groups—and the two sides appear to be entering an all-out war.

“The speaker’s being absurd,” Heritage Action CEO Michael Needham said Friday onThe Daily Rundown.

On Thursday, Boehner blasted Needham – but not by name – for organizing the defund Obamacare ploy and later claiming the group knew all along it couldn’t do away with the law altogether. “Frankly, I just think that they’ve lost all credibility,” Boehner said of the far-right conservative groups. “You know, they pushed us into this fight to defund Obamacare and to shut down the government. Most of you know, my members know, that wasn’t exactly the strategy that I had in mind. But if you recall, the day before the government reopened, one of the people that – one of these groups stood up and said, ‘Well, we never really thought it would work.’ Are you kidding me?”

Here's the full article - from Morning Joe - but it's still good though!

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/tea-party-boehner-budget-fight


I just don't get tired of this stuff - I wish the Repubs only more of this. Pass the popcorn indeed!

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Tea party declares war (Original Post) boguspotus Dec 2013 OP
Again? nt Deep13 Dec 2013 #1
They must have one hell of a foreign policy. nt Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #3
It might be fun to watch but I've got mixed feelings on this Populist_Prole Dec 2013 #2
Did Boehner get put in rehab or something? TBF Dec 2013 #4
2014 elections awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #10
I think it took Bohner half a fifth of scotch and 6 hours of rehearsal hootinholler Dec 2013 #5
Take another shot of courage, John! lastlib Dec 2013 #14
All that scotch seems to leave him without actual feelings aside from self-preservation. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2013 #24
So to review: NastyRiffraff Dec 2013 #6
I hope they rip each other into tiny shreds of confetti that just blows away. mountain grammy Dec 2013 #7
That could be a theme to take on baggers candidates.. Historic NY Dec 2013 #8
Isnt Boehner the guy who called for almost 50 votes maindawg Dec 2013 #9
Sooner than we expected: Chipper Chat Dec 2013 #11
I think John Boehner's corporate masters have had enough . . . Erda Dec 2013 #12
Bingo. TroglodyteScholar Dec 2013 #19
I hope it's mutual destruction. n/t GoCubsGo Dec 2013 #13
The useful idiots have turned on their overlords Dopers_Greed Dec 2013 #15
after only looking rite for years, boner's trying to look like an honest politician is too late. pansypoo53219 Dec 2013 #16
Well, they do have another foot to shoot rock Dec 2013 #17
Me thinks Obama has read "The Art of War" Hawaiianlight Dec 2013 #18
Boehner is trying to hang the government shutdown around the neck of the tea party and drown them okaawhatever Dec 2013 #20
Maybe they'll kill each other Spirochete Dec 2013 #21
Please proceed thug party workinclasszero Dec 2013 #22
Normaly I am completely opposed to war... BadGimp Dec 2013 #23

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
2. It might be fun to watch but I've got mixed feelings on this
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 01:36 PM
Dec 2013

There is no doubt at all the TP is a corrosive influence on the culture of politics and the shaping of the debate on public policy, And, they are becoming a loud minority of increasingly insane nutjobs; leading one to believe they'll eventually be marginalized out of effectivity, if not outright extinction.

However:

If the GOP succeeds in purging them from the party, more of the middle ( or what passes for the middle these days ) may support republicans where they may have supported democratic candidates owing to the teabaggers's nutjobbery.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
5. I think it took Bohner half a fifth of scotch and 6 hours of rehearsal
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 01:50 PM
Dec 2013

To get the "Are you kidding me?!" shout almost right. Notice how forced it is, it's not an emotion building throughout the response, but appears to be added at the end in a calculated manner.

lastlib

(23,146 posts)
14. Take another shot of courage, John!
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 03:05 PM
Dec 2013

Some day, the right words will come......by then you'll be numb

Another Tequila Sunrise......

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
6. So to review:
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 02:02 PM
Dec 2013

1. Boehner didn't have "that strategy" -- defund Obamacare & shut down the government -- in mind.

2. In addition, "my members" knew this (and presumably, some of them agreed with Boehner)

3. Boehner implemented "that strategy," which he disagreed with, anyway.

4. He's now shocked, shocked that not only it didn't work, but "one of these groups" declared they knew all along that it wouldn't work.

Ye gods, how stupid can you get?


mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
7. I hope they rip each other into tiny shreds of confetti that just blows away.
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 02:03 PM
Dec 2013

I'm seriously sick of this pious, holier than thou bullshit that has shoved aside common sense and humanity. America is a mess, with people rotting in prison for petty crimes while the rich literally get away with murder. Something's got to change and soon.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
9. Isnt Boehner the guy who called for almost 50 votes
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 02:41 PM
Dec 2013

to kill the ACA? I suppose he forgot he did that.

Erda

(107 posts)
12. I think John Boehner's corporate masters have had enough . . .
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 02:57 PM
Dec 2013

They empowered the Tea Party and turned it from a fringe group into an unyielding, uncompromising, reckless, arrogant force to be reckoned with in the US House -- through intimidation, gerrymandering, and primary challenges to more centrist candidates, the Tea Party has been able to wield a great deal of power. Big money can no longer control the monster they created. The government shutdown hurt BUSINESS interests and shocked them into awakening because it was so senseless and stupid, but it happened anyway -- it hurt big money interests that run so much in this country. It jeopardized the US credit rating. It wasted billions of dollars for nothing. I think Speaker Boehner has been given his new orders by the Chamber of Commerce and their ilk: "get these crazy people out of power!" And this is what we now see in him. He hasn't developed a backbone. He is following orders.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
15. The useful idiots have turned on their overlords
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 03:19 PM
Dec 2013

I hope the Baggers make a big mess for Repugs in 2014 and 2016.

Hawaiianlight

(63 posts)
18. Me thinks Obama has read "The Art of War"
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 06:24 PM
Dec 2013

“If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.”
― Sun Tzu

Consider how arrogant the right wing was after the mid term elections. And now....not so much.

okaawhatever

(9,457 posts)
20. Boehner is trying to hang the government shutdown around the neck of the tea party and drown them
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 06:34 PM
Dec 2013

with it. I smell an excuse for the Republican failures of the last several years. We're the good guys, we couldn't do what we wanted because of the tea party, re-elect us and we'll be more like that Reagan guy you love so much. The tea party and Republicans need to split in such a way that this leaves stink on both of them. Can't let Boehner off the hook.

BadGimp

(4,012 posts)
23. Normaly I am completely opposed to war...
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 10:57 PM
Dec 2013

[h3]BUT this is different![/h3]

Where can I donate to both sides to aid in the fight?

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