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The State Funeral of Madiba (not the Memorial Service in the stadium) is happening live (Original Post) MADem Dec 2013 OP
A live stream on the link below Tx4obama Dec 2013 #1
This is the ceremony that I wish President Obama, Michelle, Carter, and the Clintons had attended Tx4obama Dec 2013 #2
The stadium one was better. Prince Charles looks like he's doing the MADem Dec 2013 #5
Pres Zuma is hollering now - that will wake everyone up! Tx4obama Dec 2013 #8
That dude (not Zuma) with the leopard shawl?? MADem Dec 2013 #12
Well, I got confused. I thought right before he came out they introduced him as Zuma Tx4obama Dec 2013 #15
He's not Zuma the President of SA, that dude is wearing a suit. MADem Dec 2013 #16
Goodnight. I'm heading to bed and will watch the rest on the TV. Tx4obama Dec 2013 #17
I watched the funeral service.... chillfactor Dec 2013 #3
That was the Memorial (in the rain at the stadium). The funeral is happening now. MADem Dec 2013 #4
So far I've seen Oprah, her friend Gale, boyfriend Steadman, Branson, and maybe Desmond Tutu Tx4obama Dec 2013 #7
The US Ambassador is Patrick Gaspard. MADem Dec 2013 #9
Funeral is happening now. Do you mean when they moved his casket to lie in state? Tx4obama Dec 2013 #6
Right now, SA Prez Zuma is speaking. MADem Dec 2013 #10
Yes, I know. My comment was for 'chillfactor' - was asking him/her what he/she meant Tx4obama Dec 2013 #11
I think what 'chillfactor' referred to is what happened yesterday... video below Tx4obama Dec 2013 #13
+1....Winnie and Graca must be exhausted; this is a long process. nt MADem Dec 2013 #14
Lots of pics of the march to the dome and the funeral ceremony... countryjake Dec 2013 #18
That tent is something! MADem Dec 2013 #19
I'm surprised there hasn't been more singing... countryjake Dec 2013 #20
High noon... countryjake Dec 2013 #21
They didn't quite make the window, but it didn't matter. MADem Dec 2013 #22
I guess those helicopters with the flags... countryjake Dec 2013 #23
We watched it all on South African Broadcasting Corporation malaise Dec 2013 #24
They supplied the master feed, the videographers are to be commended. nt MADem Dec 2013 #26
Indeed malaise Dec 2013 #27
It's been an awe inspiring time, they really should be commended. countryjake Dec 2013 #29
Truth I am drained and sad malaise Dec 2013 #30
That was one helluva fly-by, I must say. MADem Dec 2013 #25
I loved that, too! countryjake Dec 2013 #28

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
2. This is the ceremony that I wish President Obama, Michelle, Carter, and the Clintons had attended
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 03:54 AM
Dec 2013

It is much more dignified than the one at the stadium.

But I think that Obama probably wanted to be in the states today for the Sandy Hook one year anniversary.




MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. The stadium one was better. Prince Charles looks like he's doing the
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:07 AM
Dec 2013

wake-up-head-bounce.

A lotta folks look like they need to pee, and the speeches are interminable. Everyone is saying the same damn thing--I wish they'd get a little more personal.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. That dude (not Zuma) with the leopard shawl??
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:42 AM
Dec 2013

Damn, he brought the house down--he brought the house down at the stadium, too! No idea what he was saying, but he meant it....

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
15. Well, I got confused. I thought right before he came out they introduced him as Zuma
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:44 AM
Dec 2013

I guess I don't know who the heck he was - but that was something.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
16. He's not Zuma the President of SA, that dude is wearing a suit.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 05:03 AM
Dec 2013

He might also be named Zuma, he's the only one who hasn't been bilingual in his speeches, and he hasn't had a translator, so it's a bit of a mystery...!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. That was the Memorial (in the rain at the stadium). The funeral is happening now.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:05 AM
Dec 2013

President Kikwete of Tanzania is speaking right now. Oprah is there with her fellow, as is Richard Branson and other dignitaries.

Only 450 will go to the burial site.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
7. So far I've seen Oprah, her friend Gale, boyfriend Steadman, Branson, and maybe Desmond Tutu
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:12 AM
Dec 2013

... but no one else looks familiar to me.

I read that the U.S. Ambassador is supposed to be there but I do not know what he looks like.







MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. The US Ambassador is Patrick Gaspard.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:28 AM
Dec 2013



Last time I saw him, he'd done the "Telly Savalas" and had a gleaming head (he went gray before he did that). He has a smile that lights up the room, this is not the best pic of him.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. Right now, SA Prez Zuma is speaking.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:32 AM
Dec 2013

They are in Madiba's hometown. These are the speeches in front of the casket. There are only a few hundred people there.

That link of yours is about two seconds ahead of AJ's. This is what I am talking about--it's happening live.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
19. That tent is something!
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 05:18 AM
Dec 2013

And whoever did the staging with the candle for every year of Madiba's life should get a huge UP! Very compelling.

AJ has been doing commentary over the speeches--I think there is a lot of repetitive droning going on.

Apparently the idea is to bury the gentleman when the sun is highest in the sky, but they're going to miss that window because everyone wants to have their moment at the podium.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
20. I'm surprised there hasn't been more singing...
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 05:24 AM
Dec 2013

and yes, I'm about to fall asleep trying to watch and it's not even that late out here.

Here comes the sermon.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. They didn't quite make the window, but it didn't matter.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 01:16 PM
Dec 2013

They said it was more important to memorialize him than meet the precise moment in time. I can see their point.

I thought it was a pity that they cut the feed and "privatized" the last bit. If it were me, I would have had some sort of conclusion, and then had an "after ceremony" for family alone. It left a lot of the "mourners from afar" who feel that is an important aspect a bit discombobulated.

Still no clarity as to whether his gravesite will be opened for visitors to come and pay their respects. Initial suspicions are that it won't be--I hope that's not accurate either.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
23. I guess those helicopters with the flags...
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:21 PM
Dec 2013

that went around as the casket was lowered were supposed to signal the end, but I do agree, it was rather abrupt. I know I continued watching, long after the six planes flew over and the helicopters disappeared from sight. Beautiful vista of Mandela's homeland, tho, and a time for reflection.

malaise

(268,933 posts)
24. We watched it all on South African Broadcasting Corporation
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:25 PM
Dec 2013

the best coverage of the entire 10 days bar none.

malaise

(268,933 posts)
27. Indeed
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:58 PM
Dec 2013

I hope (as someone in South Africa suggested) that they put everything on DVD so we can buy and keep for the generations to come.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
29. It's been an awe inspiring time, they really should be commended.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 05:25 PM
Dec 2013

I'm exhausted from the experience, even tho I am normally a night-owl, these past few days have been too sad and I'm now worn out.

My man wants to go into town....I'm ready to go back to sleep.

malaise

(268,933 posts)
30. Truth I am drained and sad
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 06:30 PM
Dec 2013

but I had to see everything for myself uninterrupted and SABC was fabulous. THey should take a bow.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
25. That was one helluva fly-by, I must say.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:39 PM
Dec 2013

I liked the helo/flag thing. The more I watched it, the more I liked it!

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
28. I loved that, too!
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 05:14 PM
Dec 2013

But the moment the trumpeter began, my emotions welled up and I was bawling like a baby again.

Now that I think about it, I do believe that allowing a certain privacy for the traditional rites and family goodbyes at the graveside was appropriate. I put my own old mother into the ground this year and I couldn't even imagine having a camera prying into those final personal moments. Of course, she didn't belong to a nation, either, but still.

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