More hostage taking announced by Paul Ryan (he just does not know on what at this time).

[Mass]

Not only did Paul Ryan promised to focus on repealing Obamacare, but he also announced that the debt ceiling would be subject to condition conditions

"We as a caucus -- along with our Senate counterparts -- are going to meet and discuss what it is we’re going to want out of the debt limit," Ryan said. “We don’t want nothing out of this debt limit. We’re going to decide what it is we’re going to accomplish out of this debt limit fight.”

Ryan said the party will make up its mind on its list of demands at a coming retreat. "We’re going to meet in our retreats after the holidays and discuss exactly what it is we’re going to try to get for this," he said.

At least, it is clear. Those who think Paul Ryan is reasonable are crazy.

[leftyohiolib]

1. now the dems are cowering in a huddle "omg i think we got him mad oh no what will they do to us

we better start giving up stuff" hey dems, send in patti murray again she knows how to cave in negotiations

[DearAbby]

2. would there have been a more effective way?

The Democrats believe in the constitution, and by using the constitution all problems should be solved. Congress had voted for this committee. What would you have them do? This is such a bare bones budget, this was what we could come up with. They are not going to give in..so what is your way? How could you get a better deal..should we threaten to shut down the government until our demands are met? If we do, then we better be willing to kill the hostage. Otherwise they are not going to take us seriously.

[leftyohiolib]

3. i would have expected them to use the leverage they gaind from the last shut down to make it less

bare-boned. i believe the public would again blame the gop for this shut down , it's still in their heads from last time. close A corporate loophole let the gop try to shut down the government protecting a tax break for coporations and get on the tv with A HERE THEY GO AGAIN message.
How could you get a better deal? i love questions like these, here's the answer: i cant i m not in congress. but i know democrats dont push too hard on anything and are willing to back down on just about everything like with this budget.

[AgingAmerican]

4. "don’t want nothing"

My mother was an English major. Double negatives jump out at me like fingernails on a blackboard.