growing up guns

[grasswire]

Yesterday on the city bus out in the suburbs, I sat next to a boy about ten years old and his dad, both dressed in camo. The boy was reading a paperback book. It was a guide to automatic weapons.

Sweet looking kid. Glasses, good hair cut, clean. Studying pictures of the kind of weapons that are slaughtering children like him in schools.

I don't get it. I just don't get it.

[Blanket Statements]

1. Where were automatic weapons used to kill children in schools?

I know, it's nitpicking.

Boys like guns, they always have. That's why they'll pretend a stick, their finger, wrapping paper rolls etc are guns. Guns are interesting to boys

[meanit]

7. Dad and son walking around in camo

and pouring over Guns and Ammo is a little different than kids wanting to play Cowboys and Indians or army.

Trying to dismiss the obvious military-gun culture as just "boys being boys" is seriously flawed.

[Blanket Statements]

12. Why?

He's reading a magazine, not waving a loaded pistol around.
And boys have played soldier since there have been soldiers, the weapons change but the love of playing the role has always been something boys do.

[meanit]

26. Gun mags aren't comic books.

Do you think this kid and his dad were playing army?

[Blanket Statements]

30. Neither are mags about fishing or hot rod magazine

And perhaps they were doing something that involved wearing camo..

[Hoyt]

60. Like what on a city bus, going to a Tbag, gun, or Klan rally?

[Blanket Statements]

61. Or meeting a friend or group of friends for a ride

To play paintball

[Hoyt]

93. Sure thing. Besides who wants to play shooting people?

[HERVEPA]

129. I'm male. I never liked guns.

My son never liked guns. It's what you're taght and exposed to.

[Brainstormy]

131. thank you.

you beat me to it, but thanks.

[Brainstormy]

130. I beg to differ

boys are not innately "interested" in guns. They're taught to be interested. I raised sons who have no interest in guns, or gun nuts.

[HERVEPA]

133. And thank you!

[Blanket Statements]

136. As with any generalization there are exceptions

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My 4yr old loves guns...he doesn't know i I own any

[uppityperson]

146. .

[firsttimer]

2. That just sounds weird

[Turbineguy]

3. I think it's related to the constant

barrage of information about "power". From toys, to cars, to computers, to guns and finally to killing people.

People are obsessed with power and most don't know what to do with it if and when they get it.

[geckosfeet]

4. The kid has an interest. What's not to get about that?

Do you have any interests or hobbies? Do you think everyone shares those interests with same enthusiasm?

What would say to him to get him to take up another interest or drop the interest in guns? If you were a significant adult in his life that is.

In a way it's good that he is so young - he may outgrow it. I think that when you pick up a hobby or interest as an adult it becomes something that kind of sticks. Maybe. I don't know.

In any case - it seems that you DO get it but cannot admit to yourself that you do.

[K.O. Stradivarius]

5. What is there to "get"?

So what if he's reading a book about guns... automatic or not?

I'm not into guns myself.

Same goes for golf, bicycling, scrap booking, NASCAR, ball room dancing, jazz, etc.
There are things I can take or leave and accept that it does interest some people.

If people have different hobbies or interests from mine, I don't try to understand it from a 'why would anyone be interested in something like that?

If you're into those kind of things... more power to you if it's what you enjoy.

[Decaffeinated]

6. How dare that father bond with his child over a classic American pasttime...

Somebody outta report that guy to CPS...

[Hoyt]

9. Bond with his child over lethal weapons. Do you really believe that?

[Decaffeinated]

10. I believe it because I did it...

So yes...

Any other simple questions?

[Blanket Statements]

18. It's a magazine for god's sake

[Ranchemp.]

114. Describe a lethal weapon.

And BTW, my stepdad and I bonded quite well shooting "lethal" weapons, which included hunting and just plain old target shooting.

[Hoyt]

115. And look how you turned out.

[Ranchemp.]

117. Yep, a combat veterean and

a U.S. Marshal for 40+ years now, seems to be a pretty good upbringing.

[Decaffeinated]

118. Doesn't matter...

You are a monster with the blood of 1000s of innocent children on your hand and likely one hair away from going on a shooting spree yourself, if you could pull yourself away from stormfront.

[Carolina]

119. "Bond with his child over lethal weapons..."

That's what Adam Lanza's mom did and look at the results. Sad isn't it?!

[meanit]

11. Yes, what a tender bonding moment .

"Always do a kill shot son, so they can't testify against you when it goes to court."

[Blanket Statements]

16. If every boy who read guns and ammo became killers

You might have a point.
How about a kill shot so the deer doesn't suffer?

[meanit]

28. Hunting is one thing,

and is not related to the current military-gun style cult that is being fueled and is the real problem at hand.

[Blanket Statements]

33. I didn't realize we were over run with a military style gun cult

Maybe it's just your neck of the woods

[meanit]

40. Are you serious?

[Blanket Statements]

41. Yep...I've not seen a single military style gun cultist roaming the streets

In the 30 years I've lived in Virginia...

[meanit]

44. I didn't know they only roam the streets

Is that a prerequisite for them before shooting up a school?

[Blanket Statements]

45. Well you're claiming they're a serious problem

I'd think there'd be daily encounters with them

Are they anything like the wild Muslims out to murder us and subjugate us to sharia law? B/C I haven't seen them either... But damn if I don't see posts about it on Facebook with regularity

[firsttimer]

47. It's a fascination with it

I think it would be disingenuous to say otherwise.

People pattern and copy their rifles to what they see our solders and Marines use on the battle field.

[Blanket Statements]

49. You mean like a red dot or holograph quick sight

And a forward handle that aids with aiming and gives the shooter better control?

The horror!!

[firsttimer]

50. So at least you admit , you equip your rifle as close as you can

to a military M4 , minus the burst fire.

That's all I was saying.

[Blanket Statements]

51. I don't. I prefer it with the standard furniture and sights

That I learned on in the military.

[firsttimer]

52. Most shooters don't

That's obvious by all the accessories sold for the AR platform now.

Very rarely do you see a retro

[Blanket Statements]

53. If I were doing competitions or had it as a primary home defense weapon

I could see the need.

[firsttimer]

56. I'm kind of in the other camp on this

I think this country has gone over board with the gun culture .
I would like to see more regulations on semi autos.

Most progressive Democrats I meet tend to agree on this.
I posted in another thread I am a firearm owner but I also see
a huge problem developing in our country on gun violence in the last 30 years or so.

[Blanket Statements]

57. I'm all for expanding background checks to include

Mental health problems along with waiting periods. On the mental health screening I haven't heard a realistic way to do it accurately..and it won't catch people who haven't been diagnosed but have problems

I just don't see how the aesthetics of a gun make it more dangerous...furthermore the majority of shootings are with pistols not with scary looking black rifles

[firsttimer]

64. I never said the aesthetics make a rifle more dangerous

it's the rate of fire

[Blanket Statements]

65. The AWB was about the way they looked

And the rate of fire is controlled by the shooter's finger.

[firsttimer]

67. Right, as fast as you can pull a trigger

It hasn't happened yet but imagine a crowded Christmas mall with a suicidal shooter and a beta mag.

[Blanket Statements]

70. How about a suicide bomber!

I mean, if we're going to imagine horrible things why not imagine really horrible things?
The majority of murders and shootings are with pistols....

[firsttimer]

71. We don't really have to imagine horrible things with guns, it's happening now

It was pretty horrible what happened in Newtown.
Do you think that was the end of mass shootings by someone having an AR , the weapon of choice now for mass shootings.

[Blanket Statements]

73. Oh absolutely it was horrible. But what gun law or regulation

That has been proposed since Newtown would have actually prevented Newtown from happening?

Passing a "feel good" law in the wake of a tragedy doesn't make anyone safer.

[firsttimer]

77. I don't support feel good laws

the 94 ban was ridiculous.

I would support no future sales of semi autos and registration of all firearms owned.

It's draconian to gun rights groups and shooters and I'm sure to you but you asked me.

[Blanket Statements]

79. That wouldn't have prevented the Newtown shooting

How would you insure compliance with the registration of people's guns?
How would that registration prevent mass shootings?

[firsttimer]

83. It wouldn't have , and it won't prevent the next one and the next either.

But what it would do is just grandfather the semi auto to the registered owner.
That's it , you die you weapon is destroyed .
It can't be passed on to your family member.

As to the compliance , you make it a 10 year felony if found with an unregistered firearm.

Is that going to get all people to comply ? I'm sure it won't but most will or they will bury them in the ground
thinking they beat the system , fine ..let them bury them.

Contrary to what non- gun owners seem to think about gun owners.
But in actuality most gun owners follow the law to the letter when it comes to firearm ownership.

[Blanket Statements]

84. Would the government compensate the estate for the weapon? I ask

Because it's personal property.
And if the purpose is to curtail gun crime, how would your proposal accomplish that? As you said, the majority of gun owners follow the law...they aren't the problem

[firsttimer]

85. It will take a long time and it won't make a difference short term

Sure if you want to determine market value , what would that be of something that can be transferred or sold?

I did say the majority , how ? promote a non gun culture to our children so when growing up guns aren't thought of.
Visit the UK and talk to young children there .

They have no interest in talking about guns or owning one when they get older.
We have to change the culture of the young .

It won't be done over night or in 10 or 20 years from now but eventually it would happen.
Where young adults have no interest in owning a firearm.

As to the hunters , farmers ,ranchers there will always be a use and need for a bolt or lever action rifle.

[Blanket Statements]

86. What about non rural people who want a gun for protection?

[firsttimer]

87. They can buy one.

[hack89]

82. Lanza's guns were registered

Registration is relevant when it comes to mass shootings.

[Duckhunter935]

72. why would I need a waiting period

If I already own a weapon? California court just through that out.

[Blanket Statements]

74. I think one would be needed to conduct a comprehensive

Background check that included mental health...I don't know any way to realistically do it

[Duckhunter935]

88. Court denies Harris' arguments and agrees with gun rights group Read more here: http://www.sacbee.c

In his order, Judge Ishii said that Harris has "not presented sufficient evidence to show that the [10-day waiting period laws] passes either intermediate or strict scrutiny."

About the laws being challenged in the case, named plaintiff Jeff Silvester of Hanford, California, said, "I have a license to carry a loaded firearm across the State. It is ridiculous that I have to wait another 10 days to pick up a new firearm when I'm standing there in the gun store lawfully carrying one the whole time."

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/12/09/5986084/federal-judge-says-california.html#storylink=cpy

[Blanket Statements]

89. I see your point. I have no idea how it would be workable

[meanit]

54. There are almost daily encounters with them.

Or do you not hear news of the gun massacres?

You appear to be in denial that any problem exists at all with guns and their misuse.

[Blanket Statements]

55. I'm not in denial of anything.

[Duckhunter935]

58. always have happened

much better reporting now.

[AlinPA]

111. A lady I know has a grandson that is teaching his boy "the thrill of the kill" (hunting). Let's

just hope he doesn't practice it when he gets angry with his schoolmates.

[Jenoch]

116. If you believe hunting is about

"the thrill of the kill" then you do not know much about hunting or hunters.

[AlinPA]

122. Who said I did? From age 12-40 I hunted for food (deer, small game, birds). I think I know

a bit about hunting and hunters.

[Jenoch]

123. Why did you use those words if you do not believe them?

[AlinPA]

125. I'm referring to someone else, his teaching "thrill to kill"; how does that make me believe in it?

[Jenoch]

132. How do you have knowledge of what is being taught to the boy.

It's the lady's great-grandson. Have you gone with them on tbeir hunts?

[Vashta Nerada]

121. My dad took me out fishing and to ball games.

We did that for our "American pasttime".

[Decaffeinated]

128. The difference is that we aren't trying to make everyone conform to that specific standard...

Good for you... other fathers made a different choice and that seems to bother the hell out of you...

[Hoyt]

8. Gun culture dads bringing up their kids steeped in gunz.

Social services ought to intervene before it's too late.

[dionysus]

13. for something that's been common in rural america for 200 years?

[Hoyt]

14. Hey, times change. Teach a kid that gunz aren't essential would be better.

[Blanket Statements]

17. Guns are essential when you need one

[Hoyt]

19. How often do you need one, and how many gun fanciers have just one or two?

[Blanket Statements]

21. You need it when you need it, just like any other tool

And different guns for different jobs...just like tools in a tool box

[Hoyt]

23. Not the "tool" meme. Do you carry a defibrillator, much more likely to need one?

[Blanket Statements]

24. I don't carry a gun just like I don't carry a hammer

And if I had a need for a defibrillator I'd have one

[Decaffeinated]

20. Ahh yes... the magical unicorn land where everything is solved with words and hugs...

[Hoyt]

22. Better than gunz.

[Decaffeinated]

31. One is based in reality... one is not...

[dionysus]

36. sure, fine, but calling CPS is a smidge over the top.

[Decaffeinated]

68. More than a smidge... its fascist and paternalistic...

Please daddy... won't you make the bad man stop living his life in a way I don't approve of...

[dionysus]

80. i was being charitable. nt

[Decaffeinated]

81. Fair 'nuff...

[seveneyes]

15. At least he is reading

Reading is a good sign. Who knows where it may lead.

[Hoyt]

25. True. But it sounds like he'll be reading free republic or stormfront, if not already.

[Blanket Statements]

27. Yes, because that's what everyone who reads,about guns,does

When they get older

[Decaffeinated]

46. The best thing about you...

.. is that you are the reason that your type of gun-control will never happen.

You are physically incapable of having a logical discussion sans emotion or hyperbole and thus anyone who doesn't already belong to your chosen cause will never be swayed and if anything will go to the more reasonable and accommodating side of 2nd Amendment supporters.

So thanks for making things so much easier!

[Hoyt]

59. Like you are "mentally" capable of ignoring your gun love/needs in this discussion.

[meanit]

62. Every time someone shoots a bunch of people,

gun people deny that guns were at fault at all and then want to have a rational discussion about it, "free of emotions". Yeah, good luck with that.

People are getting sick and tired of the NRA bullshit as the bullet ridden bodies continue to pile up.

[Decaffeinated]

66. Most people realize that these awful incidents are...

... extremely well covered in the media and are also very rare.

They also seem to realize that the vast majority of proposed gun control would not prevent any of those terrible actions but is merely a vehicle for those who seek to control other people.

[meanit]

106. Random mass shootings are becoming a frequent problem.

The general public does not have a defense against a a shooter with regular firepower, let alone military grade firepower. The cops were frequently out-gunned too up until several years ago.
Basically, any meat-head or screwball can obtain a high powered bullet hose of a rifle as long as they promise they are not lying on the form they sign.
I believe that most people could care less about trying to control you or anybody else. They are more concerned about innocents getting shot up.

[Blanket Statements]

110. Few people are actually murdered with rifles

Pistols are the weapon of choice

[Kingofalldems]

120. Got any proof or even evidence of your assertion?

Especially the last dozen words. Reads like a republican campaign ad to me.

[Decaffeinated]

126. Other than a basic ability to do arithmetic and remedial statistics?

...

[Kingofalldems]

140. What do stats have to do with accusing

people of wanting to control others?

[Blanket Statements]

75. Why would you blame the inanimate object

For the actions of the person using it?

My guns must be extra lazy...laying around in the gun safe doing nothing all day long

[meanit]

107. Why do you think that blaming people's actions

while allowing them to have easy access to lethal weapons will work?

[Blanket Statements]

109. Because their actions are the problem, not the

inanimate object.
Until man is able to determine future criminal behavior by individuals, there are going to be people who lawfully obtain guns and then use them criminally.

[Glassunion]

145. And every time a child picks up a book and reads it, well... Here we are. n/t

[firsttimer]

29. Nobody finds it odd Dad and young son dressed in camo on a city bus?

Not exactly going deer hunting. Costume party maybe?

[Decaffeinated]

32. Nothing odd about it...

Where do you live?

[firsttimer]

38. In the country , we don't have a city bus

When you see a couple of guys dressed in camo they are usually going deer or turkey hunting where I live.

I think it would be odd to see two guys dressed in camo up on a city bus.

[Blanket Statements]

39. It's not possible they were going to meet someone for a ride

to a more rural area?

[firsttimer]

42. Sure , I guess it could be

[Decaffeinated]

43. Some folks around here wear camo every day...

Usually realtree but occasionally BDU and more rarely some ass with UCP that he found in a thrift shop...

[meanit]

35. Don't inject a common sense observation into the discussion

it will ruin the bonding moment.

[cherokeeprogressive]

76. Psssst...

How about it's a bullshit made up story?

coughbullshitcough.

[grasswire]

141. a city bus that runs to the suburbs

And the suburbs of this very liberal city are where the less liberal people live.

Metropolitan areas have city buses that extend runs to the boonies. That means a person can ride from one boonie to another boonie without ever being in the city proper.

[Texasgal]

34. I grew up in a hunting family

My Dad had guns and so did my grandparents. I was always taught to never go near them.

I became scared of those guns and I still am. My father gave me a handgun when I moved away to college. I still have it but have not touched it in years.

I have no issues with guns in general. My family taught me the dangers. Just as I hope this father does with his kid.

[Hoyt]

63. Un fortunately, too many fathers teach you can't be a man or defend yourself without gunz.

Gun marketers use yhe same approach.

[Texasgal]

69. I understand that

Just saying that our families guns were used specifically for hunting. No one (in our family) was ever taught to use them defense.

Yes my Dad gave me a handgun when I left for college, but safety was the goal and I have not touched it in years as I said.

[Hoyt]

91. Most of the gun fanciers here would pucker if the only gun they could have were similar handgun.

It's gotten out of hand. Today most are into guns much like Zimmerman.

[Blanket Statements]

100. Meanwhile you get the vapors at the mere sight of a gun

[RandiFan1290]

101. Welcome Back to DU

[Blanket Statements]

102. ????

[Hoyt]

104. Gunz don't bother me, been around plenty. It's the yahoos that fancy them.

[Alittleliberal]

78. Friday taught me the opposite

You're a man if you use your hands to fight, sometimes you'll get your ass beat, but you'll live to fight another day!

[Hoyt]

92. Gun fanciers laugh at me, but I can see me using a can of beans or staff in unlikely

event any of us end up in a situation where avoidance or tougher actions are necessay, well unless we end up in Iraq or something. Many act like this is a war zone.

Sandy Hook is just one example of the price we pay coddling gun fanciers. And many of them find that price to society acceptable.

[pipoman]

37. It is deer and waterfowl season

Here...is it there? A lot of hunters hunt in the morning then go home and go back out in the evening. ?

[Hoyt]

94. Sure, dad is teaching kid how to drop waterfoul with an AR15.

[pipoman]

97. Who said anything about an ar-15?

[Straw Man]

112. Waterfoul?

Sure, dad is teaching kid how to drop waterfoul with an AR15.

I have heard many claims made for the AR, but never (until now) that it could be used as a water purifier.

[rrneck]

48. Yep, those people look funny. Better watch 'em. nt

[doc03]

90. I was raised with guns and hunting, My dad back in the day

was a strong believer in the Second Amendment and I still am. But I know today if he was alive and saw the guns people are buying he would say they shouldn't be owned by a civilian, things are way out of hand. Thirty years ago I would never had dreamed that regular civilians would be carrying a loaded gun on the street legally and if you open carried you would have been put in a straight jacket.

[Hoyt]

96. Exactly. Good post.

[firsttimer]

99. I'm not sure where you grew up but seeing guns was actually more common back then

I remember seeing rifles and shotguns in racks whether
you were in the local grocery store parking lot or stopping somewhere at a store.

It wasn't AR's but I remember ( true story ) having a classmate bring
in his decoys and his shotgun in school during a class .

The teacher stored them in a closet . He was going duck or goose hunting after school with someone else.

Kids weren't shooting each other back then in schools. I don't know what happened in 30 years.

I'm not trying to derail your post but seeing someone with a gun wasn't a big deal back then.

I hunted back then and it was common for me at 16 to go out with a shotgun by my self.
No body cared if they saw me drive in to get gas while it's in a rack on the back window.

Try that now anywhere and some one will call 911 if they see it.

[doc03]

127. Sure we used to go rabbit hunting and when we finished we would

stop at the gas station put our guns in the corner and buy a pop. Back then a gun was a tool you used for
hunting. Today people just want to carry a gun to make some kind of statement or to intimidate other
people. We didn't hunt squirrel, rabbit or deer with an AR-15 and 5 30 round magazines either. We still see
kids today walking along the road with a 22 or shotgun and nobody gives it a second thought. But if I stop at
Starbucks for a coffee and see some nut case with an AR-15 and an ammo belt I am going to get out of there.

[flvegan]

95. What was the book exactly?

Automatic weapons, that's bad. Dressed in camo, I guess most of you will hope they're only "hunters" looking to kill animals you don't care about very much.

[grasswire]

142. I couldn't see the cover. I was sitting next to the boy.

I could only see the pages, where assault type weapons were depicted page after page. I know nothing about guns. I only know that these looked like the ones that are always displayed on the news after a mass shooting.

[The Straight Story]

98. What other groups do you judge all based on what less than 1 percent do?

Please tell is, should be interesting.

Car owners? Buddhists? Muslims (naw, too RW - But I CAN see them pointing at someone on a bus with a turban reading the Koran and posting later about the terrorists they saw)?

That we endorse the ideal of judging others based on the very few is sickening and one of the things that makes DU suck (and hypocritical).

It should not be a tactic used by either side, and one would expect better of folks who label themselves "Progressive" (it is a regressive tactic used throughout the ages by people who want to control others by whipping up fear).

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

103. A father and son riding a bus together ...

... sounds good to me.

[Recursion]

105. I think the last murder with an automatic weapon in the US was 60 years ago

Which brings up two points:

1. Don't legislate (or advocate) in ignorance (that's the Tea Party's job).

2. Some forms of gun control work very very well. Study them.

[MicaelS]

108. Yes, you just don't get "it."

Some things gun owners can repeat until our fingers bleed, or until we're blue in the face, and some people will NEVER get it.

I am 56 years old, and have been shooting guns since I was 10 years old. I have never hunted, ever. No interest. I have never shot another living thing. And I'm getting to the point where I am tired of repeating the same thing over, and over, and over, and over, and over about why I own guns. I don't have to justify why I own guns. Guns are legal, and since I am and adult, not a criminal or mentally ill. I can own them. I choose to do so. That is all you need to know.

[Rex]

113. Gun fetish, can hit at any age. Most out grow it.

Sadly, some of them never outgrow their mom's basement.

[Ranchemp.]

124. Aww dammit!!!!!!

You really need to put a Graphic Warning sign up to warn us of such eye burning pics.

[Rex]

134. I will, I guess it is needed you are the second person saying it needs a warning!

Can you believe he has his 'pistol' aiming at his 'junk'! People have asked me, 'what is a gun nut' and what is a responsible gun owner? Well...the guy in that picture is my definition of a 'gun nut'. Especially, one day, if he has an 'accidental discharge' and can never have kids thereafter. Which might be a hidden blessing for the rest of us.

[Ranchemp.]

135. Yeah, this idiot would fit the gun nut description to a tee,

also the term gun fethist, gun humper, and just plain ugly gun nut dude.

[Rex]

137. I bet good money he never had to hunt for his own food.

The closest this guy gets to hunting, is rummaging in his mom's refrigerator up stairs.

[Ranchemp.]

138. LOL.

[Octafish]

139. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill.

And someday, son, you might grow up to be pretzeldent.


[font size="1"]President Kill by Carl Oxley III. [/font size]

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[NCTraveler]

143. It is very hard to understand someone.....

or their lives by sitting next to them on a bus for a minute. The father may have guns in the house. He may hunt with his son. There may have been a gun safety article in it that the father thought was important enough for his son to read. You want firearm education, don't get upset when people read about guns. Are automatic weapons legal?

[Glassunion]

144. OMG!!! THAT'S POUTRAGEOUS!!!

Camo = We all know that's code for the klan. It's what they wear when they are incognito.
Guide to Automatic Weapons = Just like their hero Timothy McVeigh, you have to start somewhere.
Sweet looking kid = Usually harmless, however when wearing camo and reading a book... Probably a site admin at stormfront.
Glasses, good haircut, clean = Jeffrey Dahmer type. I'd be careful.

First. What was the name of the book? If it was "Guide to Weapons that Slaughter Children - A Popup Book for Children", then I'd say you have a point.

I read a enjoyed a lot of things as a child. When my folks took me to the Met my favorite exhibit then and to this day was Arms and Armor Exhibit, I read encyclopedias of all kinds, like: Airplanes, Samurais, Norse Gods, Zulus, Naval Ships, Weapons, Fighter Jets, Firefighters, Construction Equipment, etc... I read books of all types from Science Fiction Fantasy, to Biographies. I failed to grow up to be: Odin, the Japanese Sword-Fighting, Gun-Slinging, Zulu Warrior, Jet Pilot-Bombardier, Elvish US President of Ladder Company 12 and mass shooter. You're overreacting.