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raccoon

(31,110 posts)
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 09:23 PM Dec 2013

I put a bedspread in a trash bag, tied it up, and stored it in the attic.


Some years later, I opened the bag and part of the bedspread had turned sort of tan.

Luckily, I was able to bleach it. My question is, why did this happen? Can anybody give me the scientific explanation?


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I put a bedspread in a trash bag, tied it up, and stored it in the attic. (Original Post) raccoon Dec 2013 OP
Was probably mildew from being in the attic. JaneyVee Dec 2013 #1
What, no image of Jesus? jberryhill Dec 2013 #2
It slippped out every Thursday for the last two years to hit the tanning beds. rug Dec 2013 #3
probably MFM008 Dec 2013 #4
Sounds like a chemical reaction. Phlem Dec 2013 #5
oxidative darkening? mike_c Dec 2013 #6
Was iit afflicted with boils? Orrex Dec 2013 #7
Answer from an old antique quilt collector dem in texas Dec 2013 #8
In addition, I would never store fabrics in a plastic trash bag, but an old bedsheet. Hekate Dec 2013 #16
Heat seveneyes Dec 2013 #9
my guess is laundry soap KT2000 Dec 2013 #10
The fabric seems to be as sturdy as it ever was. nt raccoon Dec 2013 #18
Made in China K.O. Stradivarius Dec 2013 #11
The plastic gases off... adirondacker Dec 2013 #12
acid off gassing from the plastic KentuckyWoman Dec 2013 #13
It was the trash bag. haele Dec 2013 #14
it could also be the detergent, dryer sheets demigoddess Dec 2013 #15
You already have some excellent responses, but this might interest you: Tanuki Dec 2013 #17
thanks for posting this! KT2000 Dec 2013 #19
Heat and plastic. . . B Calm Dec 2013 #20

MFM008

(19,805 posts)
4. probably
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 09:31 PM
Dec 2013

interaction with chemicals of what you stored it in. Ive noticed it in stuff we srore here to. Usually bags or boxes.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
5. Sounds like a chemical reaction.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 09:32 PM
Dec 2013

Just a stab something on the bead spread or on the bag might have oxidized it over time.

Animals
Air
Detergent

That would be my guess.

On edit I see another good suggestion about mildew.



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mike_c

(36,281 posts)
6. oxidative darkening?
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 09:37 PM
Dec 2013

This is apparently retarded by alkaline buffering agents added during fabric production that slow the rate of darkening. I turned up a couple of papers that discuss this:

Hmmm, having trouble linking them. Do a Google Scholar search for "Kerr Hersh Tucker cotton" and you'll find them. One is apparently Nancy Kerr's PhD dissertation and another is a conference proceeding, it looks like. They look hard to get, offhand.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
8. Answer from an old antique quilt collector
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 10:33 PM
Dec 2013

I don't know the science of it, but I have heard it called cotton mildew. I think it is caused by the sizing and soaps that are in the fabric, but I don't really know. Bleach works well to remove, but you have to be careful that you don't damage the fabric or the colors in the dye. The old fashion way to remove it was to lay the wet item on the green grass. The sunlight plus the chlorophyll in the grass has a bleaching effect. I have done this before on really old antique fabrics and it works, although you might have to do it more than once.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
16. In addition, I would never store fabrics in a plastic trash bag, but an old bedsheet.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 03:25 AM
Dec 2013

Periodically take them out to air a bit, then refold but not on the old lines. Even in my cedar chest, I buffer the fabrics from the wood with a sheet.

KT2000

(20,576 posts)
10. my guess is laundry soap
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 10:54 PM
Dec 2013

the chemicals in the laundry soap react with the chemicals in the bag.
It happens often with fabrics stored in boxes too.

It could also be cotton rot from mildew. Is the fabric weak and brittle? Does it tear easily?

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
12. The plastic gases off...
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 11:24 PM
Dec 2013

"Fumes from petroleum-based polyurethane plastic boxes and wood acids can yellow or weaken the fabrics."

http://laundry.about.com/od/storage/a/storinglinens.htm

I was warned about this from a seamstress friend years ago.

haele

(12,647 posts)
14. It was the trash bag.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 11:56 PM
Dec 2013

Sounds as if you had a cotton/poly bedspread. There are two things that happen when you store cotton/poly in plastic. The first; there is a chance of a chemical reaction between the polyester fibers and the trash bag if the trash bag got wet or even damp - which it can do if it ever got humid in your attic. It's kind of like wicking. The best thing to do in those cases is a good pre-soak in a quality detergent and then hit the stain with as much stain remover as you can (and make sure the stain is gone before you put it in the dryer).
The wicking between common fibers is why you have a tan mark in one particular spot where the damp trash bag touched the bedspread.
I had that happen to costumes that friends had borrowed for a two-week event; they thought that packing them in trash bags and a Rubbermaid tub would keep them dry on site and cut down on the weight of items they were hauling. Boy, was I pissed - especially over the stains on the chemises. What I couldn't clean, I had to patch or embroider over.

Back in the old days, it was recommended that when storing winter or summer bedding, you got a non-acidic paper or tissue, fold the bedspread or linens in that (ensuring you'd have paper between layers of fabric), then store in a lined wood chest or pack in straw. That way, the fabric would breathe and any moisture that could cause mildew or any other type of staining would have less of a chance to develop.

Haele

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
15. it could also be the detergent, dryer sheets
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 01:51 AM
Dec 2013

etc. These products leave a film on fabric that is essentially a type of wax that is imbedded with perfumes, formaldehyde and other chemicals. Add plastic off-gassing (which gives me a headache) and the high heat of an attic and you are doomed. Use some Oxyclean when you wash it and try BiOKleen detergent. And never store fabrics in attics or basements!!!

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