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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 04:08 PM Dec 2013

Pope Francis makes significant changes in the Congregation for Bishops

Pope Francis makes significant changes in the Congregation for Bishops

In another very clear sign of renewal, Pope Francis has made highly significant changes in the membership of the Congregation for Bishops, demonstrating that he wants more pastorally-minded bishops involved in the selection process of new bishops.

He gave this signal not only by appointing 12 new members to that body, but also by not confirming 14 of its existing membership, including some hitherto very influential cardinals.

The Congregation for Bishops is that Vatican body of cardinals and bishops that oversees the process of selection of candidates to be bishops in Europe, the Americas and Oceania, with the exception of those for the Oriental Churches. The nuncios in different countries send the names of three candidates to the Congregation whenever a diocese needs a new bishop. The congregation vets the names proposed and then, in a plenary meeting held every two weeks, the more than 30 members of this body vote for the candidates to be bishops in this part of the world. After the vote has taken place, the Prefect of the Congregation, presents the final result to the Pope and, while he has freedom to choose whom he wishes, he normally approves the first name on the list.

In this latest move, which the Vatican announced on December 16, Pope Francis confirmed Cardinal Marc Ouellet (Canada) as prefect of the Congregation. He has held that post since 2010, and it had been widely expected that the Argentinean Pope would confirm him.
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More: http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/the-vatican/detail/articolo/congregation-for-bishops-ouellet-30666/

I know. I know. He's a baaaaaad man who isn't doing a thing.
No need to see if his changes produce any concrete results.
We know they won't.

Do we?


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Pope Francis makes significant changes in the Congregation for Bishops (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Dec 2013 OP
He still sheltering and enabling child rapists? nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #1
Has he had time to weed them out? Are_grits_groceries Dec 2013 #2
Perhaps not ALL, how many has he turned over to the police? nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #5
And he allowed women to be priests!... SidDithers Dec 2013 #3
See post #2. nt Are_grits_groceries Dec 2013 #4

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
2. Has he had time to weed them out?
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 04:45 PM
Dec 2013

I know there are many still in the church.
Has he even been able to find out all he needs to in order to get rid of them. The conservative Bishops and such aren't inclined to help him.

He's fighting a battle within the Vatican with many who did:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024130837

Do I trust him completely? No.
The Church and the Pope have to be constantly watched.

The major issue he has taken on as Pope is turning the Church from their focus only on abortion and other social issues and making them see that their first mission is to help the poor. He has consistently had a message against the wealthy and the bureaucrats.

His fight to help the poor is dismissed as only window dressing. Really? He has millions of people who heed his words. Any move in this direction has the potential to affect many lives.

Do I want him to change his positions on women, birth control, and the LGBT community? Yes. In some respects, he is like a politician. He cannot move on every front at once or he will bog down on all of them. His choice was to help the needy.

Politicians have capital that they build up. As Pope he has an enormous amount by virtue of his position. That does not mean he can make every move in one fell swoop. Doing that runs the risk of tying up all of his fights in a doctrinal civil war.

President Obama did not immediately demand that DOMA or other acts be changed. He has still not moved to prosecute any of those who may have committed crimes during the wars in the Middle East. The war on pot continues. Why? It's obvious to many that there are changes that he could have and should have made immediately.

President Obama didn't because he knew he needed to get the lay of the land and map out a path to get things done. Taking on a lot of those issues right away would have tied his administration up in knots at the very start.

The Pope may have to make some of these same calculations.

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