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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSarah Palin weighs in on Duck Dynasty.
"Free speech is endangered species; those "intolerants" hatin' & taking on Duck Dynasty patriarch for voicing personal opinion take on us all"
https://mobile.twitter.com/SarahPalinUSA/status/413487351579418624?screen_name=SarahPalinUSA
LOL
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)It's his opinion; he's free to say what he wants.
However, I also feel the network is free to do whatever they feel is necessary to the talent that represents their network.
I support the network in its decision and I don't feel it's a violation of free speech.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Why is it that he can use his free speech (which he is certainly free to do), but the network is not allowed too use their free speech to show him the door? Nobody is saying he couldn't say what he said. However, the network can disagree with his words and discontinue his time on the show.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Has to play the victim. She's acting as if there is some war on free speech because some people act negatively to his ignorant comments. If you dish it, prepare to get served.
rurallib
(62,406 posts)but you better understand that there may be consequences.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)Great advice.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)My mother said the same thing to me.
Which is why she did not punish me when I was suspended for organizing a walk-out at my Middle School on the second anniversary of the Kent State Tragedy.
Arkansas Granny
(31,514 posts)Phil Robertson is free to say whatever he likes and his free speech will be protected even if it's wrong and hateful, just like any other person in this country. However, if the network that is paying him thinks that the speech of one of their "stars" is going to cause them to lose viewers and/or advertising $$$, they can put him on the sidelines. It's a business decision, not a free speech decision.
No DUplicitous DUpe
(2,994 posts)Duck Dynasty's Brand Bonanza: How A&E (And Walmart) Turned Camo Into $400 Million Merchandise Sales
http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2013/11/06/duck-dynastys-brand-bonanza-how-ae-and-walmart-turned-camo-into-400-million-merchandise-sales/
Big bucks are on the line.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)whether it's in the far north or deep south.
spanone
(135,823 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Hate speech is not free speech
Hate is not free
earthside
(6,960 posts)Unless you are just speaking metaphorically.
We should be grateful in a quirky kind of way that our right to free speech makes it so easy to identify the bigots, racists and haters.
Indeed, however, this Duck fellow is finding out that truly 'hate is not free' ... there are consequences for using freedom of speech to voice intolerance.
Remembering the Nazis in Skokie - Geoffrey R. Stone; HuffingtonPost.com; April 19, 2009
The outcome of the Skokie controversy was one of the truly great victories for the First Amendment in American history. It proved that the rule of law must and can prevail. Because of our profound commitment to the principle of free expression even in the excruciatingly painful circumstances of Skokie more than thirty years ago, we remain today the international symbol of free speech. (Ultimately, a deal was worked out and the Nazis agreed to march in Chicago rather than in Skokie.)
packman
(16,296 posts)- its becoming like a circus side show. In one tent view the guys making moonshine, in another the loggers killing themselves, in another a guy that cleans vermin out of your cellar, in yet another see a group bidding on crap in lockers, and over her some idiots ripping up the Alaskan landscape looking for a few ounces of gold, etc., etc.
I pine for the days of Matt Dillion, Miami Vice, Ricky and Lucy.
Botany
(70,490 posts)You forgot people making, selling, and shooting guns or somebody who just has to have
his car rebuilt by tomorrow and the drive train will not match up to the engine.
Botany
(70,490 posts)100% gibberish
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)is "intolerance and hatin" got it...
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)marmar
(77,073 posts)As Bill Maher says, she's proof that we're building the fence on the wrong border.
dembotoz
(16,799 posts)the rules that would apply to a cashier at McDonalds must in some way apply to him too
Maeve
(42,279 posts)Free speech means you won't get locked up for saying stuff (with some exceptions--threatening folks is still illegal). But it doesn't mean you won't lose your job, your friends or your spouse if you say really STUPID or biased stuff.
hatrack
(59,583 posts)Palin = ing up words and then playing with them.
warrior1
(12,325 posts)She always butts in to stories to make it about her.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)And his employer is free to fire him for it as well, just as my employer can and will fire me for doing and saying things that reflect badly on them.
Sarah Palin fails yet again, some things never change.
The government in no way censored the intellectual giants on Duck Dynasty spouting their reich wing garbage.
The gay haters that want a government agent in every bedroom in Merrica to make sure consenting adults are only doin it the approved Fox "news" way are the fans of censorship, oppression and fascism, Sarah..oh and seig heil teabaggers.
Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)got elected as governor of Alaska and was tapped to be the VP candidate for the GOP.
I can see the twit getting elected as mayor of Wasilla on looks alone since from what I've heard it was effectively a part-time job anyway.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Palin has no idea as to how the constitution works
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)Objecting to hate and intolerance makes one hating and intolerant.
As an aside, she also shows off her pretentious false populism by typing out hatin' rather than hating. Same number of key strokes used to emphasize her manufactured folksy appeal as would be needed to just spell it correctly. It's not like she's writing a novel using idiom dialect a la Huckleberry Finn here. Peel it back and it's really a slap at those she's trying so hard to identify with; oh look, she's capable of using the vernacular, just like the unwashed masses she makes such a good living off of.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Kind of line Orrin Hatch's constant use of "the President deserves an UPPERDOWN vote on his nominees!"
(Of course it no longer applies now that the President is a Democrat)
Politicians fashion their statements to be good sound bite material.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)Some people actually talk naturally in a way others consider folksy, and politicians copy that to appear that way too. Some say hatin', sure. But no grass roots types normally spell out hating with an apostrophe replacing the "g". I suppose a few might actually spell out hating as hatin, but hatin' - nope
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Palin herself couldn't be bothered to actually take the time time to twitter, or blog, or write anything whatsoever herself, she has flunkies doing all that for her.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)...and that staffer and or staffers is pretty consistent on style.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)How soul-killing must that job be?
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)Even though the situation is the same (private company punishing someone for voicing an opinion that was potentially offensive to their customers/audience) I bet Sarah and the rest of the Tea Party lemmings would find a way to say it's different.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Ugh. The hypocrisy ...
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)others have just as much right to rebut that opinion as you do to voice it in the first place.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Getting beyond uninformed, street-informed, and propagandized information based opinion is one of the basic tasks given to instructors of undergraduates.
Because undergraduates share with most Americans a very high value on 'personal opinion' they are constantly slipping back into it, when their college projects, and hence their college grades, depend on something much more like informed or scholarly opinion.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Her 15 minutes was up about 5 years ago.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)This is NOT a First Amendment issue. This Duck Dynasty guy was never prevented from speaking his opinion or exercising his First Amendment rights. He can say whatever the hell he wants.
He said his comments on a television show. He is an employee of A&E. He has no Constitutional Right to appear indefinitely on a reality program. They can fire him for whatever reason they choose.
Like it or not, Sarah--the majority of Americans do not like homophobic bigotry. We realize that you use your "beliefs" to justify this hate, but most Americans find that repulsive. That's why he was fired. You're too stupid to realize that the world is passing you by and that your views are repugnant, so you turn this into a Free-Speech war.
Idiocy on parade.
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)And lipsticked pigs, at that...
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,325 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)can make you lose IQ points with every post.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)fishwax
(29,149 posts)And Sarah Palin, as usual, is a half-wit.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Of course Palin would defend somebody making bigoted comments.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,173 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)riding around and warning the British that they won't be taking away our loving vaginas.
HarveyDarkey
(9,077 posts)Martin Bashir
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)This is the craziest, stupidest stuff I have seen her spew in a long time . . . almost 2 weeks now!
It's incredible how she screws up the English language.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Here is a brief explanation of this requirement from Cornell Law School http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/state_action_requirement
The state action requirement stems from the fact that the constitutional amendments which protect individual rights (especially the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment) are mostly phrased as prohibitions against government action. For example, the First Amendment states that [c]ongress shall make no law infringing upon the freedoms of speech and religion. Because of this requirement, it is impossible for private parties (citizens or corporations) to violate these amendments, and all lawsuits alleging constitutional violations of this type must show how the government (state or federal) was responsible for the violation of their rights. This is referred to as the state action requirement.