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global1

(25,242 posts)
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 09:39 AM Dec 2013

I Bumped Into A Friend That Was Interviewed For A High Level Job In The BushCo Aministration....

I recently bumped into this old friend of mine - a very smart and savvy guy that had a nice non-political position in D.C.. He was summoned to the WH during the BushCo administration for an interview for a relatively high government position in healthcare. He said it was clear to him that one had to conform to conservative ideology in order to get a job in the BushCo administration. Needless to say - he didn't get the job - nor did he really want the job after he learned that they only wanted to hire people that thought like they did.

Now I sit back and wonder how many of the BushCo appointees/hires are still in positions in D.C. and what their effect is on the Obama Administration.

Has anyone else here on DU heard similar stories?

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I Bumped Into A Friend That Was Interviewed For A High Level Job In The BushCo Aministration.... (Original Post) global1 Dec 2013 OP
It's called burrowing sharp_stick Dec 2013 #1
I applied and interviewed for a Corp of Engineers position several years ago... adirondacker Dec 2013 #2
They're called "stay behinds" too liberalla Dec 2013 #3
Reagan held a full scale purge when he was elected.... kickysnana Dec 2013 #4
here is a tidbit from my personal memory lane - truedelphi Dec 2013 #5

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
1. It's called burrowing
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 10:22 AM
Dec 2013

and it's an issue after each administration leaves especially if the party changes hands. Shrubbo apparently took it to new heights giving more appointees civil protections than anybody else.

His cronies are spewed throughout the departments and it can take years to ferret them out.

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
2. I applied and interviewed for a Corp of Engineers position several years ago...
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 10:41 AM
Dec 2013

The interview, which was teleconferenced with the state headquarters in NYC went extremely well and I was fairly certain I had a good shot. I followed up with phone calls to the hiring office only to be told on 3 separate occasions that the Principal was unavailable. Several months later I saw that the job was re-advertised. I called the office again and was told that I had been selected for the position and a message was left to indicate this, but since I didn't reply they had to re announce the position. It was total bullshit, since I had caller ID and an answering system that I checked daily. Basically, it was a way for them to hire someone less intimidating and more inline with their routine (holding on to 80's technology). Looking back, I'm glad I didn't have to work with a bunch of Bush chuckleheads.

liberalla

(9,243 posts)
3. They're called "stay behinds" too
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 11:01 AM
Dec 2013

some old du links I saved:

Shrub Burrowing Appointees Dec-08-08

Obama Admin. Cracks Down On Burrowing -- Right Cries Foul Nov-13-09

Hersh: Cheney ‘Left A Stay Behind’ In Obama’s Government Jan-05-10

or just google "bush burrowing"

You do wonder how much influence they've had and how much damage they've done.

Good for your friend not playing along.

kickysnana

(3,908 posts)
4. Reagan held a full scale purge when he was elected....
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 09:42 PM
Dec 2013

that became the SOP for the next GOP Presidents. Stacking the government, delaying the Democrats picks to run the government. But the Dems think that speaking truth to power is a bad thing and so we have the mess we are in.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
5. here is a tidbit from my personal memory lane -
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 10:06 PM
Dec 2013

Way back in 2003, I think before we had actually slammed into Iraq with Shock and Awe, I had to visit my car insurance agent.
(If this visit wasn't before Iraq II, it was shortly thereafter.)

Anyway, I showed up, and the agent was off in his office, with the door open. He saw me, and gestured for me to sit down in the waiting room.

So i sit down, and he is having a conversation I can't really hear, and then he starts to scream into the phone, "I don't think you should care about your pension - you need to get out of there while you have enough life force to do it! Isn't it enough that so much of that building was destroyed?"

There is quiet for a moment, while whoever was on the phone makes their reply.

And the agent again screams, "If I didn't care about you, I would say, 'Fine, wait till your pension kicks in." But the Dick Cheney - Rumsfeld Legion is there and in force - you really need to get out while you still can!"

Again silence in the suite of offices while the person on the other end replies. Then I hear the agent say, "Well, no need to thank me for voicing my concerns. If this talk helped you at all, then I am glad of it." A short pause, "You take care too. And call every week, okay?"

The agent comes out into the waiting room, still red faced from his phone encounter. He shakes hands with me, asks briefly how I am, then says, "I hadn't heard from my uncle in several months. Normally he calls every ten days or so.

"And I called him at home today, as I am scared of calling him at work. Apparently he had taken a sick day, as normally I would be leaving a message on his home machine. But today he was at home, rather than work.

"He works at the Pentagon, and he has been in opposition to all the proposals coming from the Rumsfeld-Cheny side of the Bush regime. And due to his opposition, he has been transferred to a desk in the basement of the Pentagon, where he sits all day twiddling his thumbs. He has no support among co workers, as everyone else that he knows who views the political realm as sanely as he does, has already left the Pentagon.

"Anyway I think he should leave and leave now."

He then apologized for keeping me waiting. I immediately let him know that his uncle certainly had my support and that no apology was needed.

I was struck, on my drive home, that he had "lost" it while a client was sitting and waiting for him. Insurance agents are taught not to carry on about politics, and definitely not while a client is in their presence. The fact that this professional agent had "lost it" emphasized for me how upset the agent was with the experiences of workers at the Pentagon. When all the sane people leave such an important place, then who ends up running the show?

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