A man worth $15,000,000.00 who lives on a 20,000 acre estate is a “victim”? Really?

[riqster]

http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2013/12/20/a-man-worth-15000000-00-who-lives-on-a-20000-acre-estate-is-a-victim-really/

" One more time, everybody, all together: “Bull-F***ING-S***”. Phil Robertson is not a victim: he is a multimillionaire with an enormous estate, an entrepreneur and tireless self-promoter who has worked hard to earn his considerable riches. He is a shrewd manipulator of people and this writer would not be at all surprised if this recent blowup turned out to be a huge, carefully scripted publicity stunt. You know, like the whole Duck Dynasty media behemoth.

The beards, the redneck schtick? All scripted and perfectly crafted to sell in the current market. This family made millions of dollars before the TV show, and looked like the friggin’ Romneys:


Yep, yuppies. That is the Robertson clan when they WEREN’T acting. But they are acting now.

And actors play parts. Salesmen sell products. That means, Gentle Reader, that you can’t take anything Phil says at face value. He is ACTING. And he is SELLING. So maybe he meant all that revolting s*** he spewed, maybe not, but there is a strong likelihood that it was all done on purpose, to create a buzz and increase ratings.

No way is Phil Robertson a victim. He is shrewd, wealthy and powerful, and is set for life. You want to talk victims? How about the veterans who are getting their pensions and bennies cut, or the kids that lost their food stamps and are now even hungrier?

They are REAL victims. Phil is not one of them. "

Source material at the link.

[Hoyt]

1. Not sure it was a scripted stunt, but he sure has a lot of bigots supporting him.

He'll be running for gubnor in some red state, and appearing at all the big white wing political events.

[riqster]

2. Would not be a surprise at all. nt

[heaven05]

11. Amerikkka

IS a bigoted and racist country. Period. What's the big deal. Obama just brought it out of the dark recesses and allowed the bigots an 'excuse' to be openly bigoted and to prove what my assertion is. Amerikkka is a bigoted country. 45% voted for romshit. That's a lot of bigots......

[certainot]

67. it' a bit more complicated and if you don't factor in right wing radio you miss

the most important media element in the country the last 20 years.

so if there's a guy on your neighborhood corner calling all non-bigots liars thieves traitors and sluts all day and you don't tell him he's full of shit then pretty soon it's acceptable. and you could be in the same boat. that started to happen here about 20 ears ago.

in this country maybe 30% of our major state funded colleges endorse RW radio by accepting a few dollars in licensing revenues for the privilege of riding the team mascot. every night.

[heaven05]

70. bigotry is not complicated at all

hate and fear is the driving force behind racism's stupidity and ignorance. Racism has been here since before 1776. RW radio is a relatively new part of the equation and it has helped spread the news that 'the others' are to be feared and hated. I've been telling racist idiots to go back in their holes since the 60's. A lot of people have been telling racist's to go back into their holes for many generations. They are still here and seem to be more prolific than ever. limpig, beckerhead, palin, o'really and the rest of that ilk are nothing new, they are just using the tools available. They are the klan with their hoods off now. They do not care who sees the face behind the hate. Been dealing with this shit for a long time. Hate radio is just ONE MORE TOOL used by hateful people to spread their garbage. I reiterate, 47% of amerikkkans voted for romshit, that'sa lot of bigots. Ducky D just said out loud what that 47% were voting for. Have a good one.

[certainot]

71. most republicans are bigots and there are many, with varying degrees of hate and bigotry and they'v

e always been there as you say.

RW radio allows the think tanks to amplify and coordinate and focus the hate for the benefit of the republicans and corporations- for the purpose of selling war, deregulation, tax breaks for billionaires, and global warming denial.

the left ignoresRW radio- the most important tool (by far) in their propaganda model and evaluate and strategize in a talk radio paradigm without realizing it, playing catch up and reacting after the lies have been pounded into the earholes of 50 mil a week. not factoring in RW radio is stupid- the biggest political mistake in history.

its as if they put carnival barkers on every corner and stump in the country and they're there screaming your sister's a whore your brother's a thief and your ideas and treasonous and the left just walks by.

the bigotry has always been there but the RW radio monopoly, because the left ignores it, makes it and it's more extreme forms acceptable.

[heaven05]

72. I have no problem

with anything expressed in your statement. This lefty puts a racist 'in their place' every chance I have to. People on here though have been on limpigs case for a long time. The left on here does not miss or ignore racism, homophobia, bigotry of all types. The 50 million that listen to hate radio and television do so because they want to. No amount of education or truth is going to sway 98% of them. They have always been with us and I fear will ALWAYS be with us lacking a positive evolutionary jump where they will be left behind. I hope. Have a happy holiday and new year.

[bluemarkers]

14. yes!

Fake news cheerleaders I just can't get over teh stupid

[NYC_SKP]

3. He can go to hell.

[riqster]

4. That would likewise not be a shock. nt

[fasttense]

69. According to the religion he pretends to follow

he will go to hell. In addition to the uber rich, money hungry, riches are my god thing, there is the little matter of being a false prophet.

[Tanuki]

5. He told Parade magazine back in July that he was planning to leave the show in the near future

and that he expected the show to go on without him. In that light, I think the current brouhaha is a carefully crafted publicity stunt, and a successful one at that. Look at how he is dominating the news (even here at DU), much as Miley Cyrus did after her twerking performance. Basically, he was planning to leave anyway, but he has orchestrated his exit so that he looks as if he is being "forced out", in the interest of stirring up maximum outrage and ratings.

http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/duck-dynastys-phil-robertson-i-wont-do-the-show-much-longer-2013267
.."Duck Dynasty's esteemed patriarch may soon be ready to hang up his hunting whistle for good. In a new interview with Parade magazine, Duck Commander founder Phil Robertson hints that he'll likely leave the A&E hit reality show in the not-too-distant future.

Asked how much longer he plans to be involved, the bearded, camo-wearing duck hunter replies, "Not long." But that doesn't mean the series will end. "I think it'll go on without me," he muses."...

[riqster]

7. Thanks. I remembered that statement but couldn't locate it.

[freshwest]

6. Faux populist plays the bigots. Sounds like a repuke. Bonus points for stirring hatred. n/t

[riqster]

8. And laughs all the way to the bank. nt

[Plucketeer]

51. Faux is staffed with carnival midway barkers

Step Right up folks! See the bearded, hillbilly millionaire! See the Texas senator in a dunce cap! See the beleaguered bigots bristle with buffoonery! See the Grand Ol' Pachyderms trample any spark of compassion they see! Thrill to the antics of a quitter governor as she slays innocent creatures while flying high above them and spews idiocy as she does so! Hurry Hurry Hurry!

[progressoid]

9. He has a masters in education and used to be a school teacher too.

[Hoyt]

12. Had a bunch of bigoted teachers like him. Fortunately, had a few who didn't put up with that crud.

[chervilant]

10. Duck Dynasty is the most popular reality show

in my neck of the woods, where the papers feature pictures of local children kneeling beside their 'first buck of the season' --usually laid out beside them, dead and bloody. Camouflage and other hunting garb is de rigueur. So, are we surprised that these "local" folk -- many of whom are abjectly poor -- enjoy watching a show that features a family that looks like them and goes hunting? The implicit message is that they, too, can be wealthy -- if they work hard and invent something that everyone wants...

BTW, the racism and homophobia from the patriarch of this clan is ubiquitous among those who 'love' this show. I doubt sincerely that his hateful words will spell the end for Duck Dynasty.

[riqster]

15. Oh yeah, perfectly designed to sell to that market.

Brilliant marketing.

[chervilant]

29. Have you seen

"The Century of the Self"? I think you might appreciate that documentary, which is free to view online.

[riqster]

30. Thanks! Will look it up.

[barbtries]

26. i noticed that dog the bounty hunter is still on the tv

during my recent stay in a hotel.
i guess racism sells. it's disgusting.

[chervilant]

28. Disgusting is a good descriptor.

Actually, I think Limbaugh's continued 'success' is attributable to the significant percentage of people who feel the need to justify their fear-mongering and hate-mongering without examining how much they disrespect themselves first and foremost by promulgating such vile garbage. Low self-esteem? Self-hate? I am getting tired of hearing all these excuses, especially from anonymous people who fly their verbal bully flags online (even in this forum). The sexism, racism, and homophobia we're seeing hurts my heart, and makes me doubt that our species can do what it takes to survive our imminent extinction event.

[grantcart]

65. I try and watch the last few minutes if I can.

The gathering together in a circle of prayer with someone who is on his 5th DUI and is about to return to yet another stay in jail never fails to light up my irony bone.

[alp227]

13. Of course, the harsh reality of reality TV is too much for the average viewer,

who is a follower rather than thinker. But hey, TV is the idiot box right?

[riqster]

16. Idiot box indeed.

A good thing to remember.

[GoldenOldie]

17. Free Speech?

Free Speech does not give any individual a major media, to voice and spread their hatred of others. This maybe his beliefs but his hateful ignorant words give approval to those who call themselves "Christians," but fail to acknowledge or follow Christ's teachings. Jesus did not call himself Christian this title was given to him by his followers long after his death.
These educated bigots do more to harm their fellow man, as they spread hatred and ignorance to all those who want to feel better about their own emptiness.

[riqster]

22. Free speech, my hairy Cleveland ass.

I agree with you. I kvetched about that yesterday: http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2013/12/19/phil-robertsons-first-amendment-rights-have-not-repeat-not-been-violated/

[Travis_0004]

62. I agree with you that A&E has the right to fire them

But I also think people have the right to boycott the show, or the network. The other people on Duck Dynasty have the right to stop filming, or possibly have another network buy the show.

So I really don't get the outrage. If enough people are going to boycott the show, then I'm sure A&E will cave and rehire him.

It seems like some people are fine with A&E's right to fire the guy, but they seem to be against other peoples right to complain, and boycott the show/network.

[Bjorn Against]

63. Oh they have the right to boycott

Just as we have the right to call them homophobic bigots, anyone who would support the type of bigotry displayed by Duck Dynasty is a disgusting person and they deserve to be called out on their bigotry. They can boycott all they want, but they better get used to being callepiece of shit bigoted scum because that is exactly what they are.

[MyNameGoesHere]

18. This has been in the works for months

back in summer A&E released a statement saying the ignorant shithead would be leaving

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/26/phil-robertson-leaving-duck-dynasty_n_3661012.html


He may be the leader of the "Duck Dynasty" pack, but Phil Robertson is hinting that he doesn't have much time left on the A&E reality series.

In an interview with Parade magazine, the reality star admitted that he and "Duck Dynasty" aren't in it for the long haul.

When asked how much longer he would be involved with the show, Robertson, "Not long," noting that he thought the show itself would be fine. "I think it'll go on without me."

[calimary]

19. And what annoys me too are the other Richie Riches and the Wall Streeters

and the banksters who whine about "uncertainty!" Oh WAAAAAHHHH....

All the time with the boo hoooooooing and "oh, we can't possibly stop hoarding (y)our money, oh we can't possibly invest in more jobs... because of the economic UNCERTAINTY!!!!!!" Yeah, well BULLSHIT.

Anybody with that much money and the security it brings - CANNOT whine and complain and moan and groan about some bullshit "uncertainty." Not when they've got a security blanket like that.

[riqster]

20. Too true. A business that will not invest will stagnate and finally fail.

[adirondacker]

21. They do look like relatives of the Romney's in that photo. Certainly not dirty white boys.

Not Dirty White Boys in the musical sense anyway.

[riqster]

23. Yep. The show is a put-on.

[adirondacker]

24. With a gullible nation to turn a profit for them. nt

[riqster]

25. "No one ever went broke by overestimating the stupidity of the American public."

True then, and true today. Dammit.

[riqster]

32. Forgot to whip out the "Foreigner" joke.

I am replete with rue. http://m.

&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLUDMy-GplkQ

[Sarah Ibarruri]

27. I once tried to watch Duck Dynasty, and lasted all of 30 seconds...

It's clearly THE most boring, stupid show on TV (and that's saying something)!

[toby jo]

31. What a riot.

Thanks, riqster.

[Martin Eden]

33. The only thing he's a VICTIM of is HIS OWN BIG MOUTH

and his RW brainwashing

[El_Johns]

34. Scripted, yes. You get the same vibe from other so-called "reality" shows. Yet look at all the

brou-ha-ha & posting here, treating this scripted "reality" as though it were important.

The only important thing is to say "It's fake. It's all fake & therefore it's undertaken to manipulate the public."

Duck Dynasty properties:

http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/duck-dynasty-house/view/?service=1

[riqster]

35. The manipulation is the point.

And not letting it slide is also the point. Thence the OP.

[El_Johns]

36. My post was in support of the OP's point, not opposition. It was in opposition to the many posts

here (at DU) treating the Duck person's comments as "real" & "important".

The only thing real about it is the manipulation of the public.

[riqster]

37. Thanks for the clarification.

[zeemike]

38. No he is not a victim, but it will work.

All the right wingers will flock to watch his show now, and he will prosper for it....just like the chicken sandwich prospered from it.
What we don't get is that we play a part in this little game...he comments, we get outraged and he gets the press time...and the right wing gets a new hero.
It is a nasty little game they play, but it works every time...and they will use it as long as it is working.

[riqster]

39. On the other hand, ignoring him is taken by the masses

...as tacit acceptance.

[zeemike]

41. But ignoring it keeps it out of the eyes of the masses.

It is like that old political saying, I don't care what you say about me as long as you spell my name right in the papers.
Denouncing it and never mentioning his name or show is not taken as acceptance.

[riqster]

42. Perhaps for some topics. But homophobia is a vile disease that grows in the shadows.

Shining a light is the first step in its eradication. Because being quiet didn't work out that well, did it?

[zeemike]

47. I never suggested being quiet.

I suggested not giving him publicity.

[riqster]

49. Hard to denounce a man and his actions without mentioning him, now, innit?

How else can it be done?

[zeemike]

50. Like the smart politicians do it.

Never mention your opponents by name.

[ellie]

40. Yes, let's pity the poor, poor millionaire.

I mean, he has all that money. He must be better than everyone else, right?

sarcasm alert

[riqster]

44. He's got Affluenza!

Poor victim!

[ErikJ]

43. But he calls himself "white trash" in the GQ article. nt

[riqster]

46. Trash with cash. Nt

[JVS]

45. Young Upwardly-mobile Professional.

That old fart is rich, but not a yuppie.

[riqster]

48. Click the link and look at his kids.

The beards came with the show.

[Scurrilous]

52. K & R

[riqster]

53. Boink.

[former9thward]

54. Obama watches the show.

"He said he loves the show and watches it on Air Force One," Willie said.

http://blogs.cbn.com/beltwaybuzz/archive/2013/12/20/president-obama-watches-duck-dynasty.aspx

[riqster]

55. Betcha he has stopped since this blowup.

Hope so, anyway.

[dem in texas]

56. the whole family is fake!

The hairy faces are fake, the clothes are fake, the life style is fake. The whole Robertson family story is fake and manufactured for their TV show.

What is not fake is his rants against gays and all others "sinners"he threw in. What also is not fake is his lack of understanding of the life of blacks living in the South. He made it sound like they were dancing and singing in the cotton patch.

[B Calm]

57. Just your normal golfing family who grew beards. Early picture before

before they started the TV show.

[ctsnowman]

58. The horror

The horror. That poor man.

[YOHABLO]

59. Why do people in the U.S. choose to remain stupid? Guz learn'in is too hard.

The American public has been so hoodwinked by the establishment .. it really is pathetic. They will believe anything at this point. It really is too exasperating at this point to even wrap my head around it. All these super huge HDTVs to mount on our walls only to watch the SHIT that is created by some 30 somethings in LA. (okay give or take ten years) It's all about what they think will make money .. how far they can go that the American public suck up and swallow. All a distraction from reality that this country is going down .. makes me think of Fahrenheit 451 .. read it.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

60. It's all about merchandising. Huge displays of Duck Junk at the malls.

The Robertson have a huge amount of merchandise to move or they will have to take some of it back and take a loss.

It's a crass commercial move to provoke useless controversy in the media just to get the ultra-conservatives conned into buying their junk as if it were patriotic or something.

There is a deep streak in American culture that delights in being stupid and being proud of being stupid. They latch onto Palin and Duck Robertson and Ted machine gun Nugent and other dimwits to distinguish themselves from the rest of America in the only way they are capable of.

The Duck Fakers are milking it.

[riqster]

61. The know-nothings never really left us. nt

[TeamPooka]

64. The Bible huh? "It is easier for a camel to get through the head of a pin than for a rich man to

get into heaven."

Enjoy hell Mr. Robertson, your God hates your actions.

[Recursion]

66. He has a Masters Degree, too

Don't buy the "naive babe in the woods" line...

[merrily]

68. RWingers, incl. Dr. Phil, talk a good game about personal responsibility,

but when the pooh hits their fan, they go victim mode immediately.

In the most extreme conditions, they issue a fake apology and expect the world to move on ASAP.