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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 06:53 PM Dec 2013

Detroit's Massive Art Collection Could Be Worth $867 Million

DETROIT (AP) — The fair market values of some of the most popular pieces in the Detroit Institute of Arts — including Bruegel the Elder's "The Wedding Dance" and a Van Gogh self-portrait — have been released.

Christie's auction house appraised about 2,800 paintings, sculptures, pottery and other city-owned artwork at the city's request. The list of the items and how much each would fetch at sale were released Thursday by the city.

"The Wedding Dance" is valued at $100 million to $200 million, while Van Gogh's "Self Portrait with Straw Hat" was given a price tag of between $80 million and $150 million.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/detroit-art-collection-could-be-worth-867-million-2013-12

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Detroit's Massive Art Collection Could Be Worth $867 Million (Original Post) FarCenter Dec 2013 OP
Is Detroit to sell off its art TexasProgresive Dec 2013 #1
Yes. MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #3
Currently it is out of reach of anyone who can't get to the DIA when it is hanging on the wall FarCenter Dec 2013 #4
When in private homes it is no longer relative but absolute. TexasProgresive Dec 2013 #6
Probably not. It's likely going to be sold to foundation that will keep it in place. pa28 Dec 2013 #14
how long before the foundation changes hands/changes bylaws/disbands, etc. Doremus Dec 2013 #16
Yep. That's the problem. This is about ownership and control. pa28 Dec 2013 #17
And all the money would go to the rich gollygee Dec 2013 #2
I assume none has got covenants preventing sale dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #5
Possibly, but many were bought by the city, not acquired as gifts. FarCenter Dec 2013 #7
That in effect is a contract. former9thward Dec 2013 #8
The condition is made by the giver. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #9
The condition is part of the contract. former9thward Dec 2013 #12
Nice! Hopefully they get some good money for it... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #10
That is a drop in the bucket. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #19
Perhaps, but the city of Detroit NEEDS things like Fire Trucks and Ambulances... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #20
It'll get sold to some Wall Street-connected 1 percenter for a tiny fraction of that. Scuba Dec 2013 #11
Yes, that seems likely for much of it. HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #13
I can't even bring myself to click on the article etherealtruth Dec 2013 #15
Forcing them to sell their art woe be a travesty of all that is good Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #18
And it will be sold to the 1% for a fraction of that price. n/t brentspeak Dec 2013 #21
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
4. Currently it is out of reach of anyone who can't get to the DIA when it is hanging on the wall
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 07:00 PM
Dec 2013

They have 60 thousand + pieces, so only a small percent is on display. The rest of the collection is probably available to scholars with the right credentials.

"out of reach" is a relative thing.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
14. Probably not. It's likely going to be sold to foundation that will keep it in place.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 07:43 PM
Dec 2013

The DIA will be there but the people of Detroit will no longer own it.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
16. how long before the foundation changes hands/changes bylaws/disbands, etc.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 07:54 PM
Dec 2013

A year, five?

Wait for it.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
17. Yep. That's the problem. This is about ownership and control.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 08:04 PM
Dec 2013

I'm sure people will say "what's the difference the art is still there and still on display".

The difference is that the public commons has been privatized. What once belonged to the people of the city can now be used as collateral by the purchasing foundations, moved, loaned out, toured or maybe broken up and sold later on.

For anybody who does not believe it can happen check out the story of the Barnes Foundation and the "transfer" of $20 Billion worth of art.

http://deyanbrashich.com/storage/Art-of-the-Heist.pdf

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
5. I assume none has got covenants preventing sale
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 07:05 PM
Dec 2013

as a condition of being gifted by will in the first place.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
7. Possibly, but many were bought by the city, not acquired as gifts.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 07:14 PM
Dec 2013

The 1920s were a good time to buy, and Detroit was flush with automobile money.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
12. The condition is part of the contract.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 07:42 PM
Dec 2013

All of the terms of the contract are voided in bankruptcy. In terms of specific duties there is no judge more powerful in the federal court system than a bankruptcy judge. I believe any family members would be wasting their time.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
10. Nice! Hopefully they get some good money for it...
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 07:25 PM
Dec 2013

The city is desperately in need of some cash if they are going to get back up on their feet.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
19. That is a drop in the bucket.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 08:11 PM
Dec 2013

This is the first very tangible sign the 1%ers who are Republican/Conservative ruling class won't stop until they've got it all or until someone FORCIBLY stops them.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
20. Perhaps, but the city of Detroit NEEDS things like Fire Trucks and Ambulances...
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 10:11 PM
Dec 2013

And since there is apparently not enough tax money there to buy them, what else is there to do?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
13. Yes, that seems likely for much of it.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 07:43 PM
Dec 2013

There may be some other institutions that get into the fray, but most of it will transfer to private hands...
who if we are lucky put the works on loan to public museums

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
18. Forcing them to sell their art woe be a travesty of all that is good
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 08:09 PM
Dec 2013

Taking away such fine art from the downtrodden city would add immense insult to already near-mortal injury.

Fucking privateers.

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