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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 03:10 PM Dec 2013

Brainwrap: Week 12 Obamacare enrollments - including Medicaid Expansion - now exceeeds 5.2 million

Pulling together numbers on Obamacare enrollments is a complicated business because of different sources and different methodologies and different definitions of 'enrollment'. Actual enrollment into an insurance plan doesn't happen until the first premium is paid and given that benefits wouldn't start until January 1st 2014 there is little incentive to pay before December 15th. The enrollment numbers of people who have completed all of the steps, including paying the first premium, won't be available until January and have to come from the insurance companies themselves.

The most consistent, careful and trustworthy compilation of people that have gone through the process and qualified for enrollment appears to be done by a blogger by the name of Brainwrap.

He/she has been posting a weekly update and has links to each states numbers.

It is possible that there is some duplication of numbers but it is certain that many of the numbers haven't been updated during the time when people going through the improved website has undergone significant increase in volume.

His latest numbers:

Private Enrollments 1,389,000

Medicaid Expansion/SCHIP 3,888,000

Total 5,277,000

His spreadsheet with links to his source material here:

http://obamacaresignups.net/

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Brainwrap: Week 12 Obamacare enrollments - including Medicaid Expansion - now exceeeds 5.2 million (Original Post) grantcart Dec 2013 OP
Brainwrap! Cha Dec 2013 #1
Thanks so much for the kind words! Brainwrap Dec 2013 #15
Yes, grant turned us on to your site.. Cha Dec 2013 #16
There's no going back now. nt politichew Dec 2013 #2
Nice 4dsc Dec 2013 #3
GOP biggest fear vinny9698 Dec 2013 #4
K&R & Bookmarked nt stevenleser Dec 2013 #5
Wasn't the goal around 7 million for Ilsa Dec 2013 #6
thank you brainwrap JanT Dec 2013 #7
Given That Two Months Were Essentially Lost... TomCADem Dec 2013 #8
I believe that the goal of 7 million was for private enrollments and did not include the grantcart Dec 2013 #9
it seems like December will finish with a sign up rate of 1.25 million per month CreekDog Dec 2013 #10
Not only that it is a multi year effort. grantcart Dec 2013 #11
that is the race that is on CreekDog Dec 2013 #12
Yes of course but the real problem is that they need the best possible data grantcart Dec 2013 #13
right, though the risk mix is really independent of the number of signups CreekDog Dec 2013 #14

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
4. GOP biggest fear
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 01:27 PM
Dec 2013

Even Ted Cruz said, once they get addicted to the sugar, it will be hard to get them off.


JanT

(229 posts)
7. thank you brainwrap
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 11:59 PM
Dec 2013

i had the faith and it appears that it is working. that makes me very happy.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
8. Given That Two Months Were Essentially Lost...
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 12:27 AM
Dec 2013

...and Republicans and the MSM have been relentlessly hammering the ACA with misinformation, I think that the number is pretty impressive. What is sad are the folks who clearly qualify for subsidies or Medicaid who are not looking into the ACA because they have drunk the Kool Aid being sold by Fox News.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
9. I believe that the goal of 7 million was for private enrollments and did not include the
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 01:54 AM
Dec 2013

Medicaid expansion.

That goal is for the period through March.

Even after March people can sign up but will face a penalty, but it is proportioned by month so if you sign up in April you would only be fined by 1/12 of 1 %.

I expect that March will be the heaviest sign up period and that a one month delay would not be a surprise.

I also think that there is a lot of advertising money that still has not been spent because they were waiting for the website to be worked out and also that the private insurers will be advertising themselves but wanted to wait until after Christmas to start advertising in their preferred markets.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
10. it seems like December will finish with a sign up rate of 1.25 million per month
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 02:22 AM
Dec 2013

for private insurance.

at this new, higher rate, December ends with 1.5m signups, January with 2.75m, February 4.0m, March 5.25m.

of course, the rate won't stay the same, it will go up or down and vary, but if it were to continue at this rate, that would be very interesting.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
11. Not only that it is a multi year effort.
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 02:30 AM
Dec 2013

Mass now has less than 1% of its population that is uninsured.

The Republicans are faced with the fact that it is snowball effect that is going only in one direction, downhill.

Everyday more people have insurance than the day before. If they think people were skeptical about Obamacare just see how pissed they are going to be when you try to undo Obamacare and offer nothing in its place. The country would go batshit crazy.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/29/romneycare-had-super-slow-enrollment-the-white-house-says-obamacare-will-be-similar/

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
12. that is the race that is on
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 02:33 AM
Dec 2013

to get people signed up and to have millions to lose something valuable.

so that it is unlikely to be taken away.

the closest comparison i can come up with is the Catastrophic Health Care plan from the late 80's. they did end up repealing that but people for some reason didn't feel they were losing anything. i don't think that will be the case with this though.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
13. Yes of course but the real problem is that they need the best possible data
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 02:37 AM
Dec 2013

calculation for the 2015 premiums, so its not just about the number of people signing up but the quality of the risk spread. If it is only people who need it then premiums will have to be adjusted upward while if it is more inclusive then the premiums will be lower.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
14. right, though the risk mix is really independent of the number of signups
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 02:46 AM
Dec 2013

if younger people are signing up in high enough proportions, that should help.

whereas if they meet the overall goal of 7 million, but the mix isn't what they want, that will need to be dealt with.

on the other hand, the young people that were on their parents' policies until age 26 are beginning to age out of that coverage and will be accustomed to having it, so they may be signing up.

also the idea that young people just blithely go without insurance doesn't sound right to me. some do, of course. but among my friends, it was always a big concern, there just weren't many options and there was underwriting to contend with, so if you got a policy it had huge holes in it and because you might get dropped, you feared using it. i had one of those policies from Kaiser, it was cheap but i was afraid to use it and i was lucky i had it.

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