Here's a REAL story about sailors and sickness caused by radiation.

[Bonobo]

Please take notice of how long it took for them to contract serious illness, about 38 or more years. This is precisely in keeping with what an expert in radiation illnesses says. First, blow the story about contracting illness from radioactive exposure and then, following, the expert opinion about the "case" brought by the US sailors that were near Fukushima.

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Sailors on old warship dumped thousands of tons of radioactive waste for years
http://www.tampabay.com/news/military/veterans/the-atomic-sailors/2157927

With the end of World War II, the ship began dumping the military's old or defective ammunition into the Atlantic from ammunition depots up and down the East Coast, usually in waters at least 6,000 feet deep. But it wasn't long before a second mission was added for the crew of 75 or so men.

Much of the waste, which was packed in concrete, came from Brookhaven National Laboratory, a government research facility on Long Island that had a reactor and generated radioactive material.

No documents appear to exist showing what exactly the Navy dumped. Deck logs list dumping coordinates, tonnage handled and drum radiation levels — but often, even that information is missing. And from 1946 to 1953, the Calhoun County's officers were not recording any dumps in deck logs at all.

Albernaz began a battle for his life in 1988 when part of his brain began to die, mystifying doctors who eventually concluded the rare ailment might be linked to radiation. He filed a VA claim for benefits in 2001 that was repeatedly rejected, often with tortured government reasoning.

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Did Japanese radiation make U.S. sailors sick?
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/Jan/12/did-japanese-radiation-make-us-sailors-sick/

But, contrary to what these sailors are experiencing, studies have found largely nondangerous radiation levels since the 2011 spill. Only workers at the nuclear facility have exhibited radiation amounts high enough to make them even slightly sick, scientists consulted for this story said.

One UC San Diego toxicology expert said that acute illness usually comes on quickly — in days or weeks — after massive exposure. Signs include nausea, vomiting and diarrhea.

Unless there are fatalities, people feel better within a few months. So, with typical radiation sickness, these Reagan sailors wouldn’t still have symptoms today.

Long-term illnesses, such as cancer, may result from a smaller amount of radiation exposure, but the amount required to cause them is unclear. And that type of ailment wouldn’t come on this soon, less than two years after the incident, said Dr. Richard Clark, director of UCSD’s medical toxicology program.

[RobertEarl]

1. I have noticed you claim expertise about the health of these sailors

That is simply amazing! No one else in the world could do such a thing, but here you are, right here on little ol' DU. We are so lucky!

The fact is, like everything else health related, some people can take exposure to nuclear radiation better than others.

Too, a nuclear cloud like these sailors were subjected to was a unique event, so prognosis like yours et al, is simply asinine.

[Bonobo]

2. Strange that you think I claimed expertise

Oh, I understand now. No, I QUOTED an expert -I am not one. And neither are you. However on my side of the argument is science and many decades of study on radiation illness and the consensus is that it takes many, many years for cacer to show up as the result of radiation exposure. Also that short term symptoms from acute exposure don't continue in that manner.

That's why these cases are not showing up among Japanese who almost certainly received more exposure than these Navy personnel.

[kristopher]

3. Your assertion that this is the "REAL story" is based on what?

What are your qualifications to make that judgement?

Do you have all of the information that would be necessary for making that determination?
No, you don't.

You now assert that the Japanese "almost certainly received more exposure than these Navy personnel".
How did you determine that counter-intuitive fact, since, by every existing report the vast majority of released radiation was carried out to sea and not deposited onshore?

The effects of radiation exposure are distance dependent. That means external exposure isn't looked at in the same way that internal exposure must be.
Do you or the quoted physician have a way of determining what elements were internalized by the crew of the aircraft carrier?

From day one you've worked mightily to minimize concerns about Fukushima. Judging strictly by your words, one could be forgiven for thinking you are operating with a very, very strong bias that prods you to protect this industry. The nature of that bias on an anonymous forum is, of course, known only to you; but its existence is self evident.

[DeSwiss]

4. +1000

[DeSwiss]

5. Radiation encased in concrete vs. radiation blowing in the wind, in the water, etc.

Solid ammo vs. totally uncontrolled plutonium, strontium, cesium, xenon, etc. etc. etc.

- This is an apples vs. Godzilla comparison.

[dipsydoodle]

6. Its arbitrary anyway

It worker's employers who are negligent.

[Berlum]

7. Spare me -- and my planet -- toxic nuclear propaganda

[Bonobo]

8. Great drawing! nt