Do you find this offensive?

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	Yes, I find that offensive to some extent.
	22 (37%)
	No, not at all.
	29 (49%)
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[jberryhill]

1. White Santa - No Problem

Was that the Hannity Christmas Special?

[Blanket Statements]

2. I find it disturbing and unsexy

[seabeyond]

3. do you have a ... meh. nt

[VanillaRhapsody]

4. Depends on context...

doesn't seem to be a kindergarten classroom.....that would be disturbing.

[pintobean]

5. It flat out pisses me off

that Santa is drinking.

[opiate69]

14. "Hey Santa. Pass us that bottle, will ya?"

http://m.

[Bonobo]

36. +1 nt

[Initech]

30. ...

[Cali_Democrat]

123. LOL

Awesome

[RC]

88. If you had to deal with that many of other people's kids...

It's drive you to drink too.

[grahamhgreen]

6. Yes. Because reporting it is what they want you to do.

[elleng]

7. Obnoxious

is the word that comes to mind.

[The Straight Story]

8. Any opinion on this would be sexist, so it is a trap!

Some might say she is TRYING to get people to look at her, but then that is blaming the victim (even if she doesn't realize she is one).

I didn't want to look at the pic too long, but I did see someone dressed as a patriarchal Santa holding a bag that says xxx (must be his porn stash). He is also wearing red, the color of shame. His posture denotes one of male power and joy to have it, while his dark glasses hide his oogling eyes.

Also notice he is not wearing finger nail polish, but she is - enforcing sexist stereotypes. And she is bending over in front of him, not the other way around. She is obviously being forced (through possibly economic or social standards) to perform for jolly old "saint" Nick (and what could be more patriarchal than a saint? This was most likely a show put on by the Pope).

If you can't see the same thing you have problems!

[dawg]

9. hmm...

[TreasonousBastard]

12. You'll be spanked for that...

you do like a little spanking once in a while, don't you...

[The Straight Story]

37. I post on DU don't I?

[Nye Bevan]

10. Yes.

Santa should be a lot fatter. And he should have a full white beard. And he should be focusing more on compiling naughty and nice lists, making presents, and maintaining elf discipline at this time of year. And I also think Mrs Claus would not be amused.

[RC]

89. I don't think Mrs. Claus would be amused either

[jberryhill]

154. Looks like he's trying to finish that "naughty and nice" list

He also has a bucket list.

[JVS]

11. Not offensive, but not appropriate entertainment for kids

[rocktivity]

13. "You gotta have a gimmick...especially when you don't have any talent."

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-- Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble, 1965


rocktivity

[dipsydoodle]

56. ditto

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[Myrina]

136. ^^ This, for the win ^^

100% correct.

[Silent3]

15. A candy cane that big sends a terrible message about nutrition and dental health. n/t

[Brigid]

16. How about stupid *and* offensive?

[RC]

93. "...stupid *and* offensive?"

Stupid? You don't know how much money she got for doing that. As for offensive, i kinda lean that way. The word I have for it "Crass". Or tasteless. This ain't Prime Time TV, no matter when it was on.

[liberal_at_heart]

17. I don't find her sexuality offensive at all, and I like her voice. I don't like all of her

songs but I like her voice. Young women like to explore their sexuality. There's nothing wrong with that. I did when I was young. My daughter does. Lots of young women do. It would be nice if the music industry could be a little more inclusive and show a more broad range of singers. Adele has a fantastic voice. She's overweight, doesn't dress sexy, but she is beautiful and has a beautiful voice. That being said I don't begrudge Miley her success or her sexuality.

[Scootaloo]

18. I find it tacky and dumb, but not offensive

That is, it's still much better than the average Adam Sandler movie.

Why, is it something important?

[JackBeck]

19. No, I don't, but your poll is slanted.

"I find it offensive to some extent" vs. "No I don't find it offensive" can weight the answers unevenly.

But ultimately I don't find this offensive since I have no issues with a woman having confidence in her sexuality when the rest of the media has historically told her that she should look and behave otherwise.

[Lizzie Poppet]

20. Offensive? No...I don't offend that easily. Tasteless and sleazy? You betcha.

Fortunately, they're just still pictures and not videos...

[lumberjack_jeff]

21. Classy and of compelling artistic merit.

Ha! As if!

[Niceguy1]

22. is the new meeting to sitting on Santa's lap

I was wondering when we were going to get a thread on Santa porn lol hahahahahahaha

[man4allcats]

23. I find it stupid. n/t

[WorseBeforeBetter]

24. I find it tedious.

Enough, Miley. We get it.

[treestar]

81. +1

[geek tragedy]

25. Annoying but not offensive. nt

[Live and Learn]

26. Not offensive but raunchy. nt

[Orrex]

27. How about "boring" and "obvious?"

[Rhythm]

28. There's no *yawn* category...

Takes a lot more than that to 'offend' me...
These folks simply leave me bored, and aren't worth my attention.
*yawn*

[liberal_at_heart]

29. does nobody remember being young? Do the sixties ring a bell for anyone?

Or the 1980s? I watched Madonna as I grew up do almost the exact same things. It didn't traumatize me in any way. I dressed sexy as a teenager, had sex, and had fun. I grew up, got married, had kids and guess what still have fun having sex. And if people think twerking was the first dance move to simulate sex then people are forgetting dirty dancing. Everyone looks back on the movie Dirty Dancing fondly now because everyone loves Patrick Swayze, but parents were disgusted with dirty dancing and tried to keep teenagers from doing it. And the more the parents tried to keep from doing it the more the teenagers loved it. I think DU is showing it's age here a little.

[aikoaiko]

31. She gets a pass for the reach around while twerking Santa.

Thats generous and classy.

[JoePhilly]

76. Ho Ho Ho!!!!

[WillowTree]

32. Sad that she doesn't have enough confidence in her own talent.......

.......that she has to resort to this kind of thing apparently all the time now.

[grantcart]

33. I find all efforts to exploit ignorant white folks as "poor white trash" as offensive as

Amos and Andy was at exploiting African Americans.

But I guess that isn't what your were aiming at.

[Raine]

34. I find it stupid, ridiculous and a pathetic sad attempt for attention. nt

[rrneck]

35. I didn't know she did a Christmas themed twerk.

Was there a Halloween twerk and an Easter twerk as well? I can't keep up.

[Blue_In_AK]

39. I find it stupid.

[pnwest]

40. Sad. Just tired and sad.

[nomorenomore08]

41. Not offensive, just silly. To be offended one would have to take it seriously. n/t

[yurbud]

42. with actual porn so readily available, this isn't shocking but it isn't pretty either

It's sort of like taking a dump--you know everybody does it, but you wouldn't want to watch them do it.

[Warren DeMontague]

43. No.

I'm not sure it's the pinnacle of stage entertainment, but I don't find it "offensive".

[Oakenshield]

44. I reserve the term offensive for more serious matters.

People saying gays are bound to go to hell, that is offensive. People saying women shouldn't have control of their own bodies, that is offensive. I really have no fucks to give if a musician wants to give a pseudo-lap dance to one of her backup singers as part of a live performance.

[OmahaBlueDog]

45. Other - like the Duck Dynasty comments, this is a publicity stunt

Miley Cyrus does the twerking thing to a) re-establish for anyone who had forgotten that she is no longer Hannah Montana, and b) get people talking about her performance and how shocking it was so that she sells more copies of Bangerz and more concert tickets.

[leeroysphitz]

46. I like to look at her. n/t

[Behind the Aegis]

47. Other: Git off my lawn!

The times, they are a'changin'!

[Spirochete]

48. Other - where can i get

a Santa Claus suit?

[ProdigalJunkMail]

49. disgusting

but not particularly offensive...

sP

[MrScorpio]

50. It's looks as if it's mutually consensual behavior

So, there's no point in me passing any judgement on it

[Warpy]

51. Juvenile (watch me blow your minds! No! Watch me!)

and completely unsexy.

She's trying entirely too hard.

[Warren DeMontague]

52. I dunno. She's spent the better part of this year laughing all the way to the bank.

[Warpy]

54. Well, the poor thing can't sing and she can't dance

and now that she's too old to play the kiddie role that made her famous, I guess shoving her thong clad ass into the faces and laps of inappropriate male characters is all she's got left.

At least Madonna could sing and dance.

[Warren DeMontague]

55. She can't stop

Actually I found that song mildly catchy. And I'm waaaaaaaaaaaay out of the target demographic.

[penultimate]

78. Here recent hit song was the first Miley Cyrus song I can bear listening to

I think she'll be alright once she gets out of the trying too hard phase. By alright, I don't necessarily mean she'll continue to be a 'star', but I don't think she'll full on train wreck like many others before her.

[hfojvt]

83. and she had already made a billion dollars

as Hannah Montana.

In other words, Newcastle has just received another trainload of coal.

Depriving Santa of what he needs for Miley's stocking.

[Quantess]

53. Definitely in poor taste, but not "offensive"

I'm not that easily offended.
I'd call it "tacky".

[PeteSelman]

57. The fact that she offends so many people is why I like her.

I think her music sucks but I like that she ruffles feathers. That's what entertainers are supposed to do.

[nomorenomore08]

111. Well if she's good for anything, then maybe it's that...

[B Calm]

58. She should be smoking a joint with Santa,

that would get the church ladies upset.

[NM_Birder]

59. I call it an example of her only real talent.

[Logical]

87. Well, maybe sour grapes by you.....

I am not a fan of hers because I am more a classic rock guy.

But she has had 3 number one albums and has sold 15 million albums in the United States and 50 millions albums worldwide.

So I guess she has been successful as a singer and performer by any standard.

[NM_Birder]

94. Logical,........... money does not = quality.

your standards and mine are different, just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good............to me anyway. I think her singing is as catchy and relevant as any other pop princess, but let me clarify this for you.

I think her singing is as two dimensional and shallow as Rihanna, Katy Perry, Kesha or any other crap my niece is currently infatuated with, I do however think she humps herself ....and now Santa on stage better than anyone else.

How long am I allowed to stare at a pretty girl humping Santa, before it's just her ass I'm staring at and not her gajillion dollar record deal ?

[HereSince1628]

60. I find it a clownish play for attention...

If that's what it takes, I guess, a person has gotta do what a person has to do.

[bemildred]

61. Who is the chick?

[NoOneMan]

82. Hannah Montana, Disney Kid Star

Sorta

[bemildred]

120. Ahhh, Lindsey Lohan redux. nt

[Vinca]

62. I find the "skankification" of womanhood offensive. It's got nothing to do with Santa.

At least her tongue is in her head, that's something.

[BellaKos]

65. Skankification. Egg-zactly. n/t

[BellaKos]

63. I think I'll have to come up with entirely new words.

Well, we can use the word, vulgar, I guess, but that doesn't convey the truly offensive aspect of this. I mean ... Is sexual expression supposed to be vulgar? And does it have to be in public?

It has nothing to do with the reaction of the audience, but rather the extremes women are willing to go to in order to get attention.
Here's a quick question?
Would any person whom you truly respect -- past or present -- exploit her sexuality and demean herself like this?

[Blaukraut]

64. Offensive, no. Trying too hard. Yes n/t

[HereSince1628]

69. It does seem that way.

a desperate attempt to get free of Hannah??

[Aerows]

66. Offensive? No

Stupid? Yes

I feel vaguely embarrassed for her.

[HappyMe]

67. No, it's not offensive.

She can wear and do whatever the hell she wants.

[Squinch]

68. Trashing

[etherealtruth]

70. It depends on the setting and circumstances

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Obviously, this occurred at one of her concerts ... I would think he concerted goers expect nothing less. Posting photos of this ... definitely depends on the setting and audience.

I am wholly unentertained and unimpressed. I wonder about the motivation of posting it in this setting. DU is an adult setting, so after this post I wont be seeing it again.

edit: spelling program keeps changing unentertained to entertained ... I am NOT entertained by this

[riverwalker]

71. Miley seems fixated

on her butt and tongue. Nearly every pic has her tongue out so far you can see her tonsils. I know it's considered "erotic" these days, but Farrah Fawcett and Marilyn were just as alluring without turning their esophagus inside out. I don't get Miley, and since she came out on Twitter insulting Sinead O'Conner I now refuse to even try.

[Javaman]

72. meh, just another stupid meme

for people to freak out about over one reason or another.

by reacting to it, you promote it.

there is power in ignoring things that the media tells us is "outrageous".

if we did it more, stupid sensationalism would be less popular.

[Katashi_itto]

73. Sort of Meh...I can think of lots of female singers who went the sexy route and are....well sexier

For example:

[penultimate]

74. Indifferent.

I don't really find it sexy and it does scream of attention seeking, but isn't that what many entertainers do? I'm failing to be offended or outraged by this or anything else. Besides, if I don't want to see it, I don't have to watch it (which I do not)

[TransitJohn]

75. I find it stupid.

If it were accompanied by the 'music' I'm sure was being lip synched while this performance was occurring, the I would find it offensive.

[NoOneMan]

77. Unsexy. Untasteful

[JoePhilly]

79. All I can say is ... HO HO HO!!!

I can't believe after 78 posts no one went here.

So I had to.

[treestar]

80. Not really, but I do think she is kind of gross

There is something about her - she's skinny, looks unattractive and unsexy, like a kid, so it has an ick factor to it. It's like she's not old enough for that.

If she can sing, why does she need this stuff? If you want to shed a good girl image, you just don't have to go that far. It's to a point of absurdity.

[RandiFan1290]

84. That is a Clear Channel sponsored event

It must be family friendly and RW approved.

At least it ain't the Dixie Chicks, huh?

[Bjorn Against]

85. Not offensive, but it is pretty sleezy.

[MADem]

86. Sad. Pathetic. Trying too hard.

You can see Mama Joe do that same dance, only better, in a movie that was released back in 1997 called SOUL FOOD.

And "Mama" was a grandma in that film.

Are the eighties back? That costume would seem to suggest it...all she needs are a pair of shoulder pads!

[liberal_at_heart]

90. nice slut shaming everybody. Feel better about yourselves?

[Lizzie Poppet]

108. Pointing out that you think something is tasteless is "slut shaming?"

[otherone]

91. I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together

poverty is offensive

[Zorra]

92. The APA Task Force Report On The Sexualization Of Girls

Sexualization of Girls

Journalists, child advocacy organizations, parents and psychologists have argued that the sexualization of girls is a broad and increasing problem and is harmful to girls.The APA Task Force on the Sexualization of Girls was formed in response to these expressions of public concern.
snip---
There are several components to sexualization, and these set it apart from healthy sexuality. Sexualization occurs when

a person’s value comes only from his or her sexual appeal or behavior, to the exclusion of other characteristics;

a person is held to a standard that equates physical attractiveness (narrowly defined) with being sexy;

a person is sexually objectified — that is, made into a thing for others’ sexual use, rather than seen as a person with the capacity for independent action and decision making; and/or

sexuality is inappropriately imposed upon a person.

All four conditions need not be present; any one is an indication of sexualization. The fourth condition (the inappropriate imposition of sexuality) is especially relevant to children. Anyone (girls, boys, men, women) can be sexualized. But when children are imbued with adult sexuality, it is often imposed upon them rather than chosen by them. Self-motivated sexual exploration, on the other hand, is not sexualization by our definition, nor is age-appropriate exposure to information about sexuality.

[liberal_at_heart]

95. then parents shouldn't allow their young children to watch the VMAs. There is always

controversial material on the VMAs. And as their kids get older parents need to teach their children that it is okay to explore their sexual side, but that it does not define the entirety of who they are. They are also what they learn in school, the hobbies they have, the sports they play, the kind actions they display towards others, the lessons they learn through the mistakes they make, etc.

[Zorra]

98. It's not just the VMA's. It's everywhere.

Few girls ever get a chance to discover what a real "sexual side" is, or what our real "sexual side" is, because we are taught by mass media from birth that our "sexual side" is supposed to be exactly what is illustrated in the photos in the OP.

The fabricated, marketed role models propagandizing girls and women into how and what our sexuality is supposed to be is fucking everywhere, all the time, not just on the VMAs.

Exploring our sexual side would be awesome, if we weren't imprinted with the illusion, a parody, of what female sexuality is, by an all pervasive example pushed on us by profit motivated marketers, before we are out of the cradle.

If parents in the US were to make a serious attempt to shield their children, not just girls, from artificial sexualization, they'd practically have to move to a remote region of the Northwest Territories, not have any visual media, and keep the kids from going to town until they are 18.

Don't get me wrong, I love sex early and often, but I had to seriously ponder and eliminate the artifices in my sexuality that were created by media sexualization, in order to come to a place where I feel that my sexuality is genuine, and as much my own as I have been able to determine to this point.

[liberal_at_heart]

102. But for some that is what sexuality is. It's not an illusion or parody for some young people.

It's not a parody for my daughter. She has purple hair, wears leggings and high heels. That is genuinely who she is. It's not all of who she is, but it is part of who she is. It is not an illusion for her. We have to acknowledge that for some people that is what sexuality is. I guess it would be nice if we could see some other examples of what sex is, but it is just natural for young people to express themselves sexually. That is why we see it so often. I saw a commercial once that I thought was so cute. I think it was a cereal commercial where the wife was wearing jeans and reaching up to get something and her husband was looking at her butt. When she looked at him he said, "Yes, I was checking you out." My husband and I laugh at that because I catch him doing that from time to time. And the song Blurred Lines. That song was actually written for his wife who he is still hot for. My husband actually relates to that song as well because he is a very sexual person and he is still hot for me which I'm glad for. Sex is a lot of different things to a lot of different people.

[Zorra]

109. If the MSM had not shaped much of her sexuality, would high heels still be who she is?

I understand what your are saying, and acknowledge that the fact that part of her sexuality was instilled in her by marketers, and that this became part of her sexual psyche, part of how she was sexualized. If she had never been taught that high heels were sexy, would she still wear them in order to feel attractive?

For some people, particularly in the past, having been presented with cigarette smoking as sexy and hot in the media, cigarette smoking became a part of their sexualization, and then a part of how they expressed sexuality.

http://tobacco.stanford.edu/tobacco_main/images.php?token2=fm_st129.php&token1=fm_img3764.php&theme_file=fm_mt011.php&theme_name=Psychological%20Exploits&subtheme_name=Sex%20Sells

[liberal_at_heart]

121. There is nothing wrong with that being part of who she is so I don't care where she got it.

She is a strong, independent, self confident young woman who values herself not because of her high heels but rather values herself because she is sweet, generous, artistic, intelligent, loving, clever, articulate, and because she knows she is loved. She also enjoys coloring her hair purple, wearing high heels and enjoys experimenting with her sexuality. That is part of who she is and there is nothing wrong with it.

[Zorra]

147. That's the important thing. The problem many girls/women have is never being pretty enough,

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skinny enough, well dressed enough, confident enough, etc., to measure up to media standards, and feeling that those standards must be met in order for them to value themselves as women and worthwhile human beings.

It sounds like your daughter is secure within herself, and that her self worth and self esteem are not primarily based on her appearance. It's nice to hear about girls who are not adversely affected by sexualization.

BTW, I am not at all offended by the photos in the OP. I do find them disturbing on a social level; I hate the idea of some poor girl being sexualized into believing that the sexualized image represented in the OP is what she has to be in order for her to feel good about herself.

[Waiting For Everyman]

158. Very well said, Zorra.

A parody is exactly what society is being sold as a norm. And society is buying it.

[Waiting For Everyman]

96. I think this is why women get disgusting catcalls on the street.

Really??? Do we really think that men are going to look at images of a performance like that (which can be seen on any dance floor anywhere by the way, including on mass media tv), and then walk out on the public streets and look only at women's eyes, respectfully? To assert that we do expect that is dishonest bullshit! Look at the OP images again -- we're quite clearly encouraging men to treat women in a particular way, and it isn't good! And when it's presented as something that is ok to see in public, it's presumed to be ok public behavior. It's simply "monkey see, monkey do". I'm sitting here wondering, do we really not get this? Just how dumb are we today?

If this is the acceptable norm for pop culture entertainment now, as it certainly seems to be from all I can tell (and it must be, because there is no noticeable objection to it from DU's feminists in this thread), then it is preposterous to complain about leering behavior on the streets, as several current threads in GD are heatedly doing. The lack of objection in this thread shows that those leering threads are completely phony "fighting only for the sake of fighting", without any point.

If this isn't encouraging people to see women as "sexual objects", then that term has no definition left at all, and the whole issue has no frame of reference anymore.

Feminists, if this is ok with you, then your complaints about objectification are bullshit, a meaningless joke and a fraud. "Friends of women", if you care about how women are treated, and a pop culture like this is ok with you, the same goes for you.

Yes, I have a problem with those images -- I think they are degrading to all women (of which I am one). I may not be able to do much to change pop culture, but I'll be damned if I'll sit by anymore and say that it's ok with me. No, it sure isn't. I'm sick and tired of seeing it, getting more and more disgusting each year, while everybody says sure it's fine -- just as if they wouldn't say "shit" if they had a mouthful of it. Well figuratively, that's the case alright. And it's about time to say so, and quit feeding the mass pretense.

Miley Cyrus, you're a dangerous, destructive twit (although certainly not the only one, more's the pity). And it's a real shame our society can't find something more worthwhile to reward that much.

[jberryhill]

155. This should be pretty simple to understand....

Miley Cyrus is a PERFORMER, AN ENTERTAINER. The picture above is not taken from a hidden camera or some reality show. It is her performing - engaging in fantasy - for entertainment.

A woman walking down the street, in your class, or in your workplace is NOT PERFORMING FOR YOU. She, as opposed to someone on stage and under lights for the purpose of entertaining you, is LIVING HER LIFE. And it would behoove you to respect that she is entitled to LIVE HER LIFE on her terms, not yours.

Your basic underlying thesis here is what leads to making women wear burkas.

It does not matter what Miley Cyrus does on stage, as her profession, for the express purpose of entertaining an audience. Burlesque is a classic form of entertainment enjoyed by men and women alike. It is an ACT. It is not even who Miley Cyrus is, much less any and all random women for whom "what Miley Cyrus does to entertain" is, in your mind, some sort of excuse for poor behavior.

[Waiting For Everyman]

157. Nonsense.

Miley Cyrus and others at her level of mass awareness have created the sum total of what we refer to as pop culture. That culture definitely gives the mass population its impression of what is acceptable. It is a major factor in how attitudes are molded.

This isn't a matter of one person performing like this, it is commonplace. It is the norm now. It is widespread, the "thing to do". It is seen constantly everywhere. And yes, it has become a problem for society as a whole and needs to change. The public needs to wake up and reject this garbage in the "maketplace of ideas", and that is where feminists, if they were interested in doing so, could exert some pressure and provide some leadership, but clearly they are not interested in taking on anything so formidable as pop culture. Apparently it's easier to just nitpick the perceived attitudes of individuals in one-on-one interactions, and vaguely decry the patriarchy.

It isn't burkas OR live sex acts onstage (which is where we're headed if this goes much further). Rejecting one extreme doesn't require us to accept the other extreme. People are so easily bamboozled today, by arguments like that.

The fact that any feminists are ok with this just flat amazes me. Only a few here have voiced any criticism of this, and in future I will give more weight to their views for doing so. The rest have demonstrated clearly (either by approval, indifference or silence), how shallow feminism today really is.

[Iggo]

97. No, and I don't blame anyone if they do find it offensive.

[mokawanis]

99. Not offensive. Trashy and dumb. Boring and stupid.

Another celebrity (so many of them to fill up the pages of People magazine!) acting like a clown in public. Welcome to the US of A.

[Taitertots]

100. I just don't get it... Do people actually pay to go see this?

Does anyone look at that picture and think that it is cool?

[onenote]

101. Offensive. No. Sexy. No. Trashy. Yes.

[pipi_k]

103. Offensive?

No.


Stupid, childish, pathetic

yes.

[Little Star]

104. I also find it sick and...

it makes me wonder if she was molested as a child. Just being honest that's what I really think, sorry.

[H2O Man]

105. No.

I don't.

[grahamhgreen]

107. Question. Does she want me to look at her or not?

[grantcart]

110. A representative has responded that while she generally wants everyone to look at her for sustained

periods of time and when in the venue she is performing yell thunderous shouts of approval while she 'performs' she specifically requests that the person named 'grahamgreen' look away whenever she performs.

[grahamhgreen]

112. Gladly! she's rather gross, imho. Link needs a "Warning Graphic" tag, lol

[jberryhill]

153. Heh

[Baclava]

113. No - for fucks sakes, let Santa have some fun this year!

bah-humbergers piss me off...X-mas is just another party, get in the game

[Glassunion]

114. That's the greatest ever!

iHeartRadio is way better than Pandora.

[SomethingFishy]

115. Well.. in a way I do find this horribly offensive...

Not her or her stupidity. What I find offensive is the amount of money spent on this little no talent hack could be financing the careers of dozens of talented musicians who have paid their dues, who have practiced until their fingers bled, who have honed their craft while touring sections of the country sleeping in a old crappy van playing anywhere they can for whatever little money they can scrape up.

What I find offensive is that if you want to make it in the music business today all you need to do is sing in front of the mirror in your bathroom, try out for a "talent" contest on TV and then sell your soul to Simon Cowell.. Or get "discovered" by the Disney Channel.

[mn9driver]

116. No more so than Duck Dynasty

Or any of the countless other shows out there that showcase talentless hacks doing outrageous things in the name of entertainment.

It's just another kind of porn.

[moondust]

117. Lewd.

[arely staircase]

118. hope they both have their shots

and the outfits are burned immediately after.

[Rex]

119. Is that the War on Christmas Foxnews is always talking about?

nt.

[cthulu2016]

122. Y'know... there is supposed to be a vast neutral area between

what is outre, distasteful, quirky, alien, unlovely or whatever and what one finds offensive.

The crackpot division of the world into the admirable and the offensive is f'ing nuts.

I do not find this offensive. I don't have the time, energy or imagination to gin up offense over some burlesque show. (That's about what we're talking about here.)

[Boudica the Lyoness]

124. He's pretending to 'do her from behind'

at some kind of Christmas show. Inappropriate in my book.

[JI7]

125. i think it's mostly boring

[CreekDog]

126. yes, you post that you're offended by this

but not by what happened to Trayvon Martin.

your values.

[Skip Intro]

138. You're the one that

called Trayvon a racist.

[CreekDog]

142. No. But I can see why you've made the error

you've probably gotten my posts and yours mixed up.

[Skip Intro]

146. Lie about it as usual, CreekDog,

but it doesn't change what you said.

[CreekDog]

156. it doesn't change that the only racism you complain about here is against whites

which is actually racist.

but there you are.

[Ken Burch]

127. Should have been Miley PEGGING Santa

I mean, if she's gonna go there...she really needs to COMMIT to it.

[LaydeeBug]

128. meh. pop stars are provocative. I've often found when they are resorting to this, it's kinda because

their song doesn't *sing*

[YOHABLO]

129. Hey wait a minute ...>

It's all Madonna's fault !!

[jdadd]

130. Carlin said it best

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5016102123210366&w=173&h=171&c=7&rs=1&pid=1.7

[MindPilot]

131. Other: Sexualizing Santa drives the creep factor up exponentially

You already have this moralistic, punitive, judgmental, voyeuristic bearded old white dude materializing in your house in the middle of the night to perform the childhood equivalent of an annual review. Please no. Not EVERYTHING needs an Xmas theme. Sex is one of them--at least for me.

[sakabatou]

132. Ah, parody

[Motown_Johnny]

133. She needs a new move, this one is getting old. n/t

[Myrina]

137. Agreed.

n/t

[malthaussen]

134. How about "in poor taste?"

Seems people have difficulty in differentiating between the two.

-- Mal

[L0oniX]

135. Next: bare ass naked sex on stage ...without a condum...

but then that wouldn't be a new thing ...since The Fugs did it back in the sixties.

[maced666]

139. Boorish. Juvenile. But I'm not offended.

[GoCubsGo]

140. No. It's a desperate attempt for some attention.

Not to mention sleazy and tasteless, as some here have already pointed out.

[politichew]

141. I find it arousing. nt

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

143. Anything Justin Bieber does, I find offensive

Oh, wait, nevermind....

[kwassa]

144. I like Miley because she pisses so many people off.

Kind of a performance art thing, and more entertaining than the vagina knitter.

[AngryOldDem]

145. When are this no-talent's five minutes of fame up?

So ready to move on from this crap.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

151. She's 21.

Not for a lonnnnnnng time. And just for fun: Justin Beiber is only 19.

[alp227]

148. Yes because Miley is a talentless hack. N/t

[polichick]

149. imo Miley is like the house guest that has started to stink...

Her behavior is so pathetically desperate, it's easy to forget that she actually does have talent.

Wish she'd just sing again:

[fadedrose]

150. Is "waste of time" an "Other" or a "Pass" nt

[Flatpicker]

152. Not offensive

just blah.

it's not interesting on any level, nor is it enticing.

[NaturalHigh]

159. No, not offensive...

but not interesting either. For the life of me, I don't understand how this young woman pushes the buttons of so many people.

[Doctor_J]

160. I am offended that such idiocy is actually popular