Single women overwhelming vote for

[applegrove]

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Obama in 2012 and within a year there is suddenly great strife between feminists and others on the DU. I smell GOP sockpuppets. Who is with me? I mean I've been here for almost 10 years and never seen such consistant anger directed at each other on one topic like the last 4 months.

[TreasonousBastard]

1. Probably, but who's falling into the trap...

isn't there some responsibility for critical thinking around here?

[PeaceNikki]

2. Who specifically are you accusing of being 'GOP sockpuppets'? Feminists on DU, or 'others'?

[applegrove]

3. Both sides. That way more conflict is

ginned up.

[PeaceNikki]

5. Well I doubt your thread will do anything to help matters, but if it makes you feel better,

rock on.

Also, meta is dead.

[Tarheel_Dem]

4. You Better Believe It! And that's not the only group under attack, and it's no accident.

Infighting is a tried & true suppression tactic.

[applegrove]

6. We are naive if we don't think the

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GOP doesn't try to divide us from within places like the DU.

[Tarheel_Dem]

12. Naive indeed.

[bvar22]

7. Agreed.

The Snowden/Greenwald haters too!

..and the Pro-NSA crowd... (out of control!)

..and lets not forget those smug bastards on the Fringe Left,
just because they talk issues and all doesn't make them better!

...and the upstart Warren for President crowd is getting too big for their britches.
I mean WTF?
Everybody knows that its Hillary's Turn!!!

...And those FU**ING Cat Threads....bunch of disruptors trying to Hi Jack DU and talk about their cute pets!!!!

Its gotten really bad lately.
Lets round them all up and ban them ALL!

Who is with me!!???

[LisaLynne]

8. Yes, I have suspected the Pets' Group for a long time now.

Oh wait ... I'm in the Pets Group... That's it! I'm banning myself.

[PeaceNikki]

10. Pitbull defenders, corn-flake coating chicken freaks, Anthony's Weiner defenders.

Shit's been hot here since day 1.

[xulamaude]

15. "corn-flake coating chicken freaks"

[Curmudgeoness]

16. Leave the chicken out of it.

Hell, we don't want to start that up again. Unless it is fried chicken at Olive Garden.

[sabrina 1]

23. I have always suspected the cooking crowd, and the photography group?? Why are they taking pictures

in the first place?

Round them all up, I'm with YOU!

[demmiblue]

9. Well, this helps!

[LittleBlue]

11. I think it's because there is no big news

These topics always explode in the void of real topics to discuss. Never happened when we were on the verge of war with Syria, nor during the first month or so of the NSA/Snowden saga.

Suddenly when there isn't anything important to discuss, we get male gaze, pit bulls, vaginal knitting, multivitamins, etc

[BlueToTheBone]

18. There is news. Diachi #2 melted down

the Pacific Ocean is contaminated with radiation; the polar caps are melting at alarming rates; but hey Duck Dynasty rocks on and we dance the circle jerk.

This is not to intimate that the denigration of women assaults us from every angle.

[Matariki]

20. Or maybe, possibly, it's an issue people here really care about

especially when it's an issue that affects them directly. I care about women's issues. They affect me directly. I'm not thrilled when people try to marginalize or trivialize those issues and I tend to speak up when they do.

[sabrina 1]

25. There's plenty of very serious news if you turn off the Corporate Media and start using more actual

news sources.

I think it's the opposite of what you say, whenever there IS big news about the wrongdoing of the Government eg, see the upcoming Trade Agreement eg, these gender wars seem to surface.

[yuiyoshida]

13. Lets beat down

The Sock Poppets!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. Name names by reporting them to MIRT = Malicious Intruder Response Team. nt

[Kingofalldems]

17. Boom. Nailed it.

[RainDog]

19. I'm a woman, been here ten years, people here know me in person

Never voted for a Republican.

I supported Obama over Hillary because I didn't want another DLC/Clinton era. Another NAFTA. Oh well.

I've met more than a dozen DUers over the years, one stayed at my house when a bunch of us attended a reading by Will Pitt, I attended Kephra's funeral, met Skinner.. twice, once at a march in D.C.

And there have been feuds on DU pretty much the whole time, but I haven't necessarily known about them as they were happening. I learned about most of them after the fact. Since the Obama election, more conservative Democrats - I assume they're Democrats, seem to have shown up and tried to herd the cats here.

There may be some sock puppets here - in fact, I would bet on it - but I don't know who they are now or who they were when. I don't know if they're necessarily GOP. A lot of the arguments that have happened here have happened between democrats, and a lot of them have happened because of either personal animosity or culture war issues. At least those that I've seen.

I do remember one guy who was here who, after the...2nd Bush election? outed himself as a troll. I'm sure others here remember more about him than I do.

I left DU for a couple of years, around the Kerry election, mostly because my life was just too busy. But also because there were so many arguments among Democrats around the primaries, etc. Same sort of hostility during the Obama/Clinton primaries, seems to me.

So, sure, there may be some Republican trolls here, but I wouldn't be surprised if the different people were all Democrats, either.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

21. I find it almost impossible to define "Democrat"

Liberals and Progressives seem to get along, but Democrats up until LBJ were a different brood. I'm assuming it's regional difference mostly.

I never noticed the personal debates until I got called out for a casual remark or two on "gays" and the death of Michael Hastings. Some topics do spur on real strong positions, while others are more rudimentary.

I'm not single, but I'm a long time, somewhat conservative feminist. Figure that one out.

[Brickbat]

22. Are you saying only single women can be feminists?

Or that anyone who votes for Obama can't possibly see shortcomings in the way U.S. culture treats women?

Or that feminist ideas should go out the window when participating on a political chat board?

[kdmorris]

24. There is some strife between some feminists and others

NOT all feminists. I am a feminist and have had no strife directed at me by others. If you suspect someone of being a sock puppet, report to MIRT for investigation (unless that was just a generalization).

[zeemike]

26. I am absolutely sure there are trolls and sock puppets here.

But you will never hear me call them out...and I oppose any witch hunt to expose them.
That would be playing right into their hands because it would put suspiciousness in our dealings with each other and further the goals they have...to divide us.
The most effective way to deal with it is reasoned debate and let them expose themselves and waste a bunch of time not achieving anything.
And I think for the most part we do that...and it must be frustrating for them.