Causes of rape

[Playinghardball]

[Thinkingabout]

1. Yep, that about sums up the reasons.

[xulamaude]

2. Simple graphic.

Leaves a lot of room for discussion about who (or 'what') rapists are.

[Mister Ed]

3. Well, thank you.

As I went to click on the OP, I was indignantly thinking to myself, "WTF?! There's only one goddam cause!"

Feeling better now that I've seen the graphic.

[myrna minx]

4. Thank you. K&R n/t

[BainsBane]

5. K and R

[firsttimer]

6. Why wouldn't alcohol also be listed in the graph?

Many times it's a contributing factor in college life.

Jocks getting drunk and acting like asses ...no?

or am I missing something here

[Mister Ed]

8. Well, now...has alcohol ever raped anyone?

Drunken rapists have. Sober rapists have, too. But alcohol? It's never raped anyone.

You just can't have a rape without a rapist.

[firsttimer]

9. That logic could be used on any crime committed then

What caused the robbery ? Can't have a robbery without a robber..

hunger maybe ? No

No it was a robber.............


You don't believe in contributing factors ever.

[Mister Ed]

11. I'm sincerely trying to understand what you're saying...

...and I'm sincerely failing to.

I understand that the dire necessity of hunger could drive a man to rob, although he truly didn't want to. Like Jean Valjean stealing a loaf of bread in "Les Miserables", right?

But I do not understand what on this earth could make a person commit rape even though he truly didn't want to.

[firsttimer]

12. I saying that this graph leaves nothing to contributing factors

It 's not an excuse for the crime or any crime so please don't misinterpret what I'm saying.

I 'm saying that to not include alcohol in some portion of that graph when in fact many rapes
are committed in drink binge frat house parties is not an actual description .

It is a contributing factor involved numerous rapes .

Alcohol should be included in that graph.
There are in fact people who have committed crimes ( and convicted , rightly so ) under the influence who black out and don't even remember committing the crime.

Have you ever worked in a women's shelter ? When you talk to them the one thing they all seem to have in common
is their abuser was an alcoholic and most if not all incidents happened when he drank.

[Mister Ed]

18. I guess you and I have kind of gotten away from the point of the original post...

...which was just a quick visual reminder that there is nothing about a rape victim that causes rape. (Not her alcohol consumption, not her clothing style, not her racial milieu, etc.)

Obviously, we both grasp that fundamental fact. Any discussion of the motivations and psychological makeup of a rapist is pretty much secondary to that.

[seabeyond]

13. lots and lots of men get drunk. and lotsa lotsa men NEVER consider rape cause rape is not in their

mentality. it is not the booze cause the men to rape. it is a man that can conceive of rape, to rape. booze or not.

[CoffeeCat]

19. I've been drunk plenty of times...schnockered to the gills...

...and I've never raped anyone.

Alcohol is used as an excuse. It's a copout.

This is the danger. I've sat down and spoken with my girls about the dangers of alcohol and being alone with guys at parties, where booze is around. This warning is because so many young men have been taught that alcohol is an excuse. They can say, "Well, I was drunk".

That's the danger. Alcohol is a contributing factor--but only because men who rape use it to justify their crimes.

Alcohol doesn't cause anyone to rape a woman--but rapists sure like to use it to rationalize and excuse away their sick, sadistic behavior.

[Nye Bevan]

7. Causes of Gun Murders

Fair?

[bobclark86]

17. Unless the black line is the war on drugs...

which forces drugs underground and leads to violence in getting money for drugs or retaliating against those who take the money without providing the goods -- which are the situations involved in the vast majority of all murders in this country, not just gun murders -- then no.

[TroglodyteScholar]

10. Would hope this is a given on DU!

Has someone here been trying to justify sexual assault?

[Gravitycollapse]

14. Not exactly deeply meaningful. Like saying what causes rain is the clouds.

[BainsBane]

15. No, but better than going on about what women wear

How much they drink or where they go. The longer I'm online, the lower my standards get for what I find encouraging.

[Gravitycollapse]

16. I suppose this would be better as a separation between who's responsible for rape...

And what causes rape to exist.

In each instance of sexual assault, the perpetrator is responsible. However, a necessary discussion must exist on the social and psychological mechanisms that promote rape.

[leftyladyfrommo]

20. Well, this is good.

A topic on rape and there are pictures of half naked women rolling all over on the side of my screen.

Gross.

[smirkymonkey]

21. +1000

[flvegan]

22. Ego.

To be more specific.

Feel free to discuss that, and to explore the space of the evils that the ego causes anyone to do. Not that I'm trying to de-prioritize rape. Just something to maybe think about.