Sun Dec 29, 2013, 09:45 AM

kpete (70,719 posts)

ODD: “If you’re outraged, you must be mentally ill.”

Remember those bumper stickers that said,
"If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention"?
Well, now it seems that "If you're outraged, you must be mentally ill."

Nonconformity and Freethinking Now Considered Mental Illnesses

Is nonconformity and freethinking a mental illness? According to the newest addition of the DSM-IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders), it certainly is. The manual identifies a new mental illness called “oppositional defiant disorder” or ODD. Defined as an “ongoing pattern of disobedient, hostile and defiant behavior,” symptoms include questioning authority, negativity, defiance, argumentativeness, and being easily annoyed.

MORE:
http://theunboundedspirit.com/nonconformity-and-freethinking-now-considered-mental-illnesses/

88 replies	Author	Time	Post
ODD: “If you’re outraged, you must be mentally ill.” (Original post)	kpete	Dec 2013	OP
Given the conditions of contemporary society, how can one claim the "normal" person is really sane?	hobbit709	Dec 2013	#1
Someone wants to identify and label those who notice the world is crazy.	Octafish	Dec 2013	#2
I guess I'm guilty!	LeftofObama	Dec 2013	#3
So am I	L0oniX	Dec 2013	#30
I am completely outraged by this!!!	longship	Dec 2013	#4
Luckily for you, there's a room open...	pinboy3niner	Dec 2013	#6
ROFL!! Good one.	longship	Dec 2013	#11
LOL. funny.	GoneFishin	Dec 2013	#38
Heh, there you go. Lefty nutcase calling in!	idwiyo	Dec 2013	#5
Not this lefty. I'm a perfessional.	Eleanors38	Dec 2013	#7
This is why I think psychiatry is borderline quackery.	MindPilot	Dec 2013	#8
^^^this^^^	L0oniX	Dec 2013	#24
...says the guy with a bug in his sigline	pinboy3niner	Dec 2013	#43
.	L0oniX	Dec 2013	#50
Mostly, you just get us to swat our screens for a while	pinboy3niner	Dec 2013	#52
Yes, the so-called "science" of the oppressive mental health system ...	ananda	Dec 2013	#37
Which explains why they no longer talk with the person anymore.	QuestForSense	Dec 2013	#40
This is not true. Few, very few write prescriptions w/o some talk and a referral.	nolabear	Dec 2013	#77
I'm sure there ARE psychiatrists who care and try to help.	QuestForSense	Dec 2013	#81
I know. I'm a psychoanalyst. Getting coverage for effective talk therapy is nearly impossible.	nolabear	Dec 2013	#83
Thanks for educating everyone re insurance companies and talk therapy.	QuestForSense	Dec 2013	#85
You're welcome. Lots of good folks leave the business because it's been made so hard.	nolabear	Dec 2013	#88
Well, schizophrenia IS something gone wrong with the brain.	kestrel91316	Dec 2013	#68
Well, let's see you sit back, watch a terrified, hysterical, suicidal patient and explain that.	nolabear	Dec 2013	#75
I have been called odd	dotymed	Dec 2013	#9
If you're past adolescence, then you're not ODD.	Crunchy Frog	Dec 2013	#12
Lol, I am somewhat past adolescence	dotymed	Dec 2013	#25
Posting urban legend as fact.	Crunchy Frog	Dec 2013	#10
Yes, ODD has been around since DSM-III (1980), and Yes it's a disorder of childhood.	Jackpine Radical	Dec 2013	#15
I don't follow DSM data really, but was interested...	MrMickeysMom	Dec 2013	#22
I don't think environment is the answer	YarnAddict	Dec 2013	#66
I think I was fairly careful not to be absolutist in my comment.	Jackpine Radical	Dec 2013	#72
He is a nut case for sure.	zeemike	Dec 2013	#29
Nothing wrong with liking long walks and late-night conversation	Crunchy Frog	Dec 2013	#35
Hey, you keep your calm rationality out of this! You hear?	arcane1	Dec 2013	#58
Thanks. You're exactly right. The OP is completely w/o merit.	nolabear	Dec 2013	#78
automatic gain-saying...	truebluegreen	Dec 2013	#13
no it isn't.	Voice for Peace	Dec 2013	#17
Yes it is.	awoke_in_2003	Dec 2013	#49
Heh.	truebluegreen	Dec 2013	#56
If this is really true, that is a VERY dangerous precedent.	loudsue	Dec 2013	#14
This has been happening for decades now. ODD isn't new.	Jackpine Radical	Dec 2013	#16
Wow. That really sucks.	loudsue	Dec 2013	#20
ODD does not refer to adult non-conformists.	Crunchy Frog	Dec 2013	#28
Well, I read the thread...	Wounded Bear	Dec 2013	#18
Hmm	davidthegnome	Dec 2013	#19
You mean this is not fiction?	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2013	#21
Not the way diagnosis reads in DSM-V.	idendoit	Dec 2013	#23
Be careful how otten you point that out. The same article mentions "arrogance, narcissism" too.n/t	jtuck004	Dec 2013	#33
Not how manual the reads.	idendoit	Dec 2013	#36
It was from the DSM-IV, as stated. And it exists in the DSM-V, and has been changed. n/t	jtuck004	Dec 2013	#42
OP article is indeed silly	treestar	Dec 2013	#54
If you fanatically resist	nilesobek	Dec 2013	#71
No it's a very specific DSM category	treestar	Dec 2013	#84
Krishnamurti quote	Ichingcarpenter	Dec 2013	#26
+ a brazillion! nt	pinboy3niner	Dec 2013	#45
If you are NOT outraged you must have had a lobotomy or live under a rock.	L0oniX	Dec 2013	#27
Oh dear gawd, we have an epidemic!!1!	JNelson6563	Dec 2013	#31
it's a childhood disorder	dlwickham	Dec 2013	#32
More drugs for our children ...hurry!	L0oniX	Dec 2013	#46
Being a teen is now a condition.	enlightenment	Dec 2013	#34
Needing some topic to blog about, this writer	MineralMan	Dec 2013	#39
I always said the Republican Congress is mentally ill.	dsharp88	Dec 2013	#41
I'll second that!	mountain grammy	Dec 2013	#47
Hey! Be nice! Racism IS a mental illness too.	L0oniX	Dec 2013	#48
Sounds like most teenagers thoughout the years, myself included.	mountain grammy	Dec 2013	#44
Can you say "Ritalin"? I thought you could!	WinkyDink	Dec 2013	#53
It all depends. If such behaviors and attitudes are chronic	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2013	#51
I agree with everyone else	chknltl	Dec 2013	#55
I've been around kids labeled ODD and they were extreme... not just kids in need of	1monster	Dec 2013	#57
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Dec 2013	#59
Welcome to DU	gopiscrap	Dec 2013	#63
IMO this is a very dangerous view.	radicalliberal	Dec 2013	#60
It would be even more dangerous	Crunchy Frog	Dec 2013	#67
This is nothing new..	sendero	Dec 2013	#61
"Where's The Outrage???"	Dirty Socialist	Dec 2013	#62
I have to call bullshit.	LWolf	Dec 2013	#64
+1000	Crunchy Frog	Dec 2013	#70
I bet the folks fuming about the black guy in THEIR White House are all aflutter over this.	Spitfire of ATJ	Dec 2013	#65
They probably are, because believing in this is on a par with believing in birtherism.	Crunchy Frog	Dec 2013	#69
The funniest thing is a Moran claiming to be a Rebel as they represent The Establishment.	Spitfire of ATJ	Dec 2013	#73
Oh Honey, this Dx has been around forever. And it's a real disorder, though becoming obsolete.	nolabear	Dec 2013	#74
Tell me this is some freaking joke article from onion-type website.	diabeticman	Dec 2013	#76
No, but it's a completely misinformed claim. Numerous debunkings in the thread.	nolabear	Dec 2013	#80
That's not what ODD is and ODD isn't a new diagnosis.	LeftyMom	Dec 2013	#79
Perfect way to imprison people who do not agree with society or the government.	Lint Head	Dec 2013	#82
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."	1000words	Dec 2013	#86
As Sen Inhofe once said when americans were outraged to learn of our torture program	Bandit	Dec 2013	#87

ODD: “If you’re outraged, you must be mentally ill.”

1. Given the conditions of contemporary society, how can one claim the "normal" person is really sane?

2. Someone wants to identify and label those who notice the world is crazy.

3. I guess I'm guilty!

30. So am I

4. I am completely outraged by this!!!

6. Luckily for you, there's a room open...

11. ROFL!! Good one.

38. LOL. funny.

5. Heh, there you go. Lefty nutcase calling in!

7. Not this lefty. I'm a perfessional.

8. This is why I think psychiatry is borderline quackery.

24. ^^^this^^^

43. ...says the guy with a bug in his sigline

50. .

52. Mostly, you just get us to swat our screens for a while

37. Yes, the so-called "science" of the oppressive mental health system ...

40. Which explains why they no longer talk with the person anymore.

77. This is not true. Few, very few write prescriptions w/o some talk and a referral.

81. I'm sure there ARE psychiatrists who care and try to help.

83. I know. I'm a psychoanalyst. Getting coverage for effective talk therapy is nearly impossible.

85. Thanks for educating everyone re insurance companies and talk therapy.

88. You're welcome. Lots of good folks leave the business because it's been made so hard.

68. Well, schizophrenia IS something gone wrong with the brain.

75. Well, let's see you sit back, watch a terrified, hysterical, suicidal patient and explain that.

9. I have been called odd

12. If you're past adolescence, then you're not ODD.

25. Lol, I am somewhat past adolescence

10. Posting urban legend as fact.

15. Yes, ODD has been around since DSM-III (1980), and Yes it's a disorder of childhood.

22. I don't follow DSM data really, but was interested...

66. I don't think environment is the answer

72. I think I was fairly careful not to be absolutist in my comment.

29. He is a nut case for sure.

35. Nothing wrong with liking long walks and late-night conversation

58. Hey, you keep your calm rationality out of this! You hear?

78. Thanks. You're exactly right. The OP is completely w/o merit.

13. automatic gain-saying...

17. no it isn't.

49. Yes it is.

56. Heh.

14. If this is really true, that is a VERY dangerous precedent.

16. This has been happening for decades now. ODD isn't new.

20. Wow. That really sucks.

28. ODD does not refer to adult non-conformists.

18. Well, I read the thread...

19. Hmm

21. You mean this is not fiction?

23. Not the way diagnosis reads in DSM-V.

33. Be careful how otten you point that out. The same article mentions "arrogance, narcissism" too.n/t

36. Not how manual the reads.

42. It was from the DSM-IV, as stated. And it exists in the DSM-V, and has been changed. n/t

54. OP article is indeed silly

71. If you fanatically resist

84. No it's a very specific DSM category

26. Krishnamurti quote

45. + a brazillion! nt

27. If you are NOT outraged you must have had a lobotomy or live under a rock.

31. Oh dear gawd, we have an epidemic!!1!

32. it's a childhood disorder

46. More drugs for our children ...hurry!

34. Being a teen is now a condition.

39. Needing some topic to blog about, this writer

41. I always said the Republican Congress is mentally ill.

47. I'll second that!

48. Hey! Be nice! Racism IS a mental illness too.

44. Sounds like most teenagers thoughout the years, myself included.

53. Can you say "Ritalin"? I thought you could!

51. It all depends. If such behaviors and attitudes are chronic

55. I agree with everyone else

57. I've been around kids labeled ODD and they were extreme... not just kids in need of

63. Welcome to DU

60. IMO this is a very dangerous view.

67. It would be even more dangerous

61. This is nothing new..

62. "Where's The Outrage???"

64. I have to call bullshit.

70. +1000

65. I bet the folks fuming about the black guy in THEIR White House are all aflutter over this.

69. They probably are, because believing in this is on a par with believing in birtherism.