People post images, articles, studies, etc. to counter RW talking points here all the time.
Are there any issues besides rape culture and misogyny where the poster will be asked to prove that someone on DU agrees with the RW talking points in order to justify posting it?
Are there any other issues where it will be implied that since everyone agrees that the RW talking points are wrong, that it shouldn't be posted?
Why are the topics of rape culture and misogyny treated this way?
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"Its not a controversial topic..."
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Why don't more people hide posts, trash threads and put others on Ignore? Because they empowers the guilty. There are less people to counter, to stand up to, the harassment and bullying of those that post OP's designed to degenerate into flame wars.
So now people who discuss rape culture and misogyny are "the guilty"?
I love the idea that posts calling out rape culture and misogyny are "designed to degenerate into flame wars".
People who posts OPs calling out rape culture and misogyny are just asking for flames, by talking about rape culture and misogyny at all, right RC?
Can you name DU names of people supporting this "Rape Culture"? Can you supply evidence of any DU group(s) supporting this? Can you provide links to where anyone on DU is supporting a rape culture?
I am seeing far less misogyny around here than I am seeing, not so well disguised misandry and bulling by a certain group. In other words bully posts against men of DU in general. DU is a more or less Liberal web site, is it not? Most people here do not hold too many Right-wing views. Then why treat us if we are misandrist, when most here are far from it?
As some of your group sometimes say, DU has Ignore and trash thread functions. Use them, if you don't like what other members post.
But that is counter to your primary purpose in this, now is it? Only others should use these functions, correct?
Stop stirring stuff up and there would not be anything to push back against, from the rest of DU. As others have said, it is less the subject matter, than it is who is doing this and doing it over and over again. Along with the unwarranted ridicule, insults, belittling and even outright attacks designed to browbeat and intimidate anyone that does not toe your party line. And don't forget the often purposeful misunderstanding of posts that are in response to most any post that don't adhere to your party line. Responses that are designed to elicit a response in return, sufficient to persuade enough jury members to hide. That is the real purpose of all this, isn't it? To lock people out. Shut them up? Silence them?
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If you had ever strictly stuck to posting gender issues, I think this all would of went better
Keep blazing ahead. Best of luck to you 
"Bullying posts against men". Really? I don't especially see discussions about rape and public sexual harassment by strangers to be "against men" as much as they are against certain cultural attitudes and behaviours that, yes, are largely perpetuated by some but not all men. Any more than I see discussions of racism as being "against white people", or discussions of LGBT rights as being "against straight people" (or even better "aimed at destroying the traditional family"
. If you feel threatened or particularly targeted by such discussions, perhaps you should be asking yourself why you feel that way.
Here's some context. Society hasn't really changed as much on some issues as some people would like to believe. A majority of people no longer think that being gay is deviant and that LGBT discrimination should be legal. A majority of people no longer think that for African-Americans to believe they should have the same rights of citizenship and opportunity is "uppity". But you know...a woman who is as sexually assertive and self-directed as a man is still regarded by many as a "slut", women who are victims of sexual assault are still subject to societal disapproval ("she was asking for it, it's her fault for being dressed that way, she shouldn't have been drinking" . And what do you think the whole "culture wars" issues of abortion rights, contraception, sex education and abstinence are about? A teenage girl who gets pregnant? Still subject to much more societal disapproval than the boy who got her pregnant, becayse boys will be boys, won't they? There are some inherent cultural attitudes to "acceptable" gendered behaviours that place different levels of expectation and assumed responsibility on women in ways that are pretty inherently unfair, which is what all of these issues really come down to.
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Who the fuck am I to argue. No one ever posts "no shit" on DU. Only to rape threads.
That's what I get from the most outspoken men on this thread.
Just be still and shut up. Stop playing the victim.
I don't participate, as a general rule, in threads with sexual assault and rape as the topic. They trigger me and so I trash them, again, as a general rule. However I have noticed that there have been many posted lately that seem to have a few.... well, a few participants who basically keep telling you and others to sit down (be still) and shut up.
They too have the option to trash/ignore. However they choose to tell you to sit still, be quiet....
And I am reminded. I haven't the emotional strength to fight it. And so I do what I need to do. I avoid.
I am reminded. And I understand and know what the answer to your questions are.
And I am in awe of you and sea and others ability to stand up, speak out, and attempt to educate. And not be intimidated. Just in awe.
And with that, I'll back out again. Just wanted you to know how I feel right now. 
I appreciate your kind words and am very happy to *meet* you. Happy happy New Year!! 
-Mel
I'm sorry if anything I've posted has been triggering. I try to include a warning but I know I sometimes forget.
Thanks for speaking up.
I can not stress enough how important it is to share everything about the subject of sexual violence with people of all sexes... how to protect ourselves, how to change behaviors, impress on others just how deeply victims are negatively affected on all levels throughout their whole lives, how sexual assault can psychically destroy the individual and their families, how it can prevent victims from having even a modicum of a 'normal' life.... so many levels, so much trauma that more than often never ever heals.
It has cyclical and generational repercussions that will never ever change unless sexual violence and it's impact on human lives becomes totally open for discussion; no fear and no shame. I find it mind boggling that there are some here who wish to squelch the discussion. I wish those who oppose this discussion would take a long hard look at themselves and ask why, or, at the very least, respect those of you trying to affect positive change and raise awareness by utilizing ignore/trash as opposed to coming into the discussion to silence it. Thus what seems like misogyny comes into play.
Is it deliberate? I don't know, but there it is.
Anyway, to reiterate, yours is an important voice here, as is sea's, and I appreciate the work you all do. I know how to read a topic sentence and avoid the discussion as do each and every one of those attempting to silence you on DU. Know that for everyone of those voices, there are countless others here reading and learning and healing and changing for the better. And we all thank you for this. I hope you and your family have a wonderful New Year. Stay strong. I remain in awe.
-Mel
a huge bear hug of love and light.
too many people ask me why. i tell them, there are women that want to be heard, and do not want the ugly. i and others can do.
that is why
I am so happy to know your voice will NOT be silenced for good. Your works are important, and hopefully Skinner and Co. realize this. If not, they should. Thanks for every kindness you've shown me these many years, and it is my New Years wish for you that you can take this small break to refresh and be kind to yourself. Bask in the love of family and friends, re-center, and come back stronger than ever.
You amaze me, sea. Have the best New Year ever!! See you on the flip side.
-Mel
