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TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
11. I think the binary nature of our political system distorts our ability to
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 03:42 PM
Jan 2014

even express certain dimensions of the much more complex philosophical nuances of belief systems and ideologies of real people.
This is exacerbated by allowing regressives to neuter dialog by making every collective descriptor a curse so leaving the collective little to do but oppose all that is descriptive of the individual and their rights as negative to move the conversation but such is seen by many as equally false.

So, we are seriously left with no way to describe the balance between the well being of the collective versus the rights of the individual without the train coming off the tracks on the labels. Hell, someone is bristling at the use of collective right now, I'd wager.

We have also been stripped of much ability to talk about the balance between law and chaos. Chaos alone stuck with too much baggage just to be allowed to be an extreme poll on a continuum. Increasingly, we are not even permitted in any rubber to road way to even consider the concept of a continuum at all to dictate a sellers market for governing and largely unaccountable politicians and a frightened electorate focused on an eternal game of keep away and acceptance of a race to the bottom.

I guess I'm saying that as one attempts to become more accurate in describing politics some uncomfortable label or another will be used and we get bogged down in that.

Kaleva

(36,293 posts)
5. Any that gives a result you agree with is accurate.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:50 PM
Jan 2014

You probably already have a good idea about where you are on the political spectrum so just try them all till you find one that confirms your position.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
6. I prefer
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 02:03 PM
Jan 2014

the political compass for a few reasons.

First, the world is not linear, not 2-dimensional.

Second, the compass is more global; not USA-centric.

Finally, I find it more accurate than the others I've tried.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
7. There was one I've tried to find that I took years ago and it had populism along with left/right
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 02:16 PM
Jan 2014

and other markers. Here is one that includes authoritarian/libertarian along with left/right. It has several questions so hopefully that adds accuracy.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/test

Here is one from Pew and PBS. It's speific to 2012 elections and it seems to place me much farther left than most others. (that could be due to current topics and the move to the right of the country recently).

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2012/quiz/

Kaleva

(36,293 posts)
8. I scored as a moderate Democrat according to the PBS quiz
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 02:23 PM
Jan 2014

"Overall, your political values are closest to those of a…
Moderate Democrat"

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
9. I scored far, far left. I think it may have to do with the specific questions. On the other quiz I
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 02:37 PM
Jan 2014

scored a -6.37 on the left and a -3.9 for libertarian over authoritarian. The previous test I took that I thought was the best (I can't find it now) said I was a moderate populist Democrat.
What surprised me about the PBS quiz was that the average Republican was closer to center on economics than on social issues. With all the press you've seen in the last couple of years you'd think there is much more difference in money/economics/budget.

Kaleva

(36,293 posts)
10. Economic Left/Right: -1.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.03 for me.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 02:49 PM
Jan 2014

I've drifted slightly to the left on the economic scale and have remained the same on the social scale over the years.

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