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Watching George Stephanopolous... (Original Post) SummerSnow Jan 2014 OP
you should turn off the tv AngryAmish Jan 2014 #1
I can't find the remote! SummerSnow Jan 2014 #2
I think ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #3
Spot on. SummerSnow Jan 2014 #4
And I will add the ever unpopular opinion of ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #5
Bingo again. Well said. Little Star Jan 2014 #6
Right. Keep voting in ever bluer dogs till we fall off the Right side cliff too. RC Jan 2014 #8
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #9
Which will be another Blue Dog candidate picked for us to vote for. RC Jan 2014 #10
First ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #12
I gave up on the Sunday blabbing shows HappyMe Jan 2014 #7
There is no valid reason to watch George Stephanopolous. nt TeamPooka Jan 2014 #11
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
5. And I will add the ever unpopular opinion of ...
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 11:18 AM
Jan 2014

stop buying into the divisive populist/centrist frame. Yes ... draft, campaign, work and vote for "progressive" candidates, in the primaries ... wherever they have a shot at winning in the general election; but in/for the general election, campaign, work and vote for whatever Democratic candidates that are on the ballot!

Simple truth ... We (Democrats) cannot hold the Senate without Democrats winning elections. And, recognizing that even e Bluest of Blue dogs, still caucus with the Democrats (i.e., allows for control of committees) and vote with the Caucus 70+% of the time; whereas, the most "moderate" of republicans caucus with the gop and vote wit Democrats < 5% of the time.

If we want progress, the choice is clear.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
8. Right. Keep voting in ever bluer dogs till we fall off the Right side cliff too.
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 01:08 PM
Jan 2014

Yeah, that works. It has so far, hasn't it.
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
9. Well ...
Reply to RC (Reply #8)
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 05:11 PM
Jan 2014

It worked to get the ACA (versus nothing), and all of President Obama and Democrats' first term accomplishments.

But that said, n one is talking about "ever bluer dogs" ... I'm talking about electing the Democrat that comes out of Democratic primary.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
10. Which will be another Blue Dog candidate picked for us to vote for.
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 05:24 PM
Jan 2014

Democrat should not mean Right of Center. But that is what we have to vote for.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
12. First ...
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 05:54 PM
Jan 2014

"Picked for us"? ... I find it funny/interesting/sad that people engaged in the political process refuse to look at the primary process/results and pause to consider that maybe, just maybe, a majority of their fellow Democrats (or maybe just Democrats) are not as "liberal" or "processive", as they ... it's always "they" did this or "they" did that ... whoever the hell "they" is.

If you feel that all "we have to vote for" are right of center candidates, then get your butt out there and draft, work for the candidates of your choosing to get into and out of the primaries.

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